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Old 28th Jul 2021, 06:25
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Lambeth Council

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-inquiry-finds

Hundreds of children abused while in care of Lambeth council, inquiry finds

Hundreds of vulnerable children in the care of Lambeth council in south London were subjected to horrendous cruelty and sexual abuse over several decades on a scale that was “hard to comprehend”, an independent inquiry report has found.

The independent inquiry into child sexual abuse (IICSA) found more than 700 allegations of sexual abuse against hundreds of staff and individuals connected with just three homes in the borough. The true scale of abuse was likely to be far higher, it said.

It said Lambeth council had allowed violence and sexual assault to flourish in its children’s residential homes, had failed to act against known abusers, or tackle the brutal, harsh and punitive culture of its homes – with devastating consequences for many children in its care…..

The report is scathing of what it calls the “progressive” leftwing culture of the council in the 1980s. “Many councillors and staff purported to hold principled and beliefs about tackling racism and promoting equality but in reality they failed to apply these principles to children in their care.”

It notes that the overwhelming majority of children in its homes were black. At Shirley Oaks in 1980 57% of the children in care were black; at South Vale home children a decade later 85% of the children were black. “Racism was evident in the hostile and abusive treatment towards them by some staff.”

The chair of the inquiry, Prof Alexis Jay, said the children in care were pawns in a “toxic power game” within the council in the 1980s and 90s, which was characterised over many years by bullying, racism, nepotism and sexism, against a backdrop of political chaos, corruption and financial mismanagement.

She added: “This all contributed to allowing children in their care to suffer the most horrendous sexual abuse, with just one senior council employee disciplined for their part in it. We hope this report and our recommendations will ensure abuse on this scale never happens again.”

The IICSA report is its third since 2018, following previous inquiries into Rochdale and Nottinghamshire councils…….

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https://www.google.se/amp/s/inews.co...ort-401679/amp

Quite a pathetic attempt to paint child abuse as a Left wing problem ORAC.

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The report is from the Guardian and cites the report itself.

I believe it is more a comment, as it says, on the “progressive” leftwing culture endemic in Lambeth, and other councils at the time.

It’s Rochdale redux.

You comment seems to reflect the attitude which allowed such things to go on for so long.
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The report is from the Guardian and cites the report itself.

I believe it is more a comment, as it says, on the “progressive” leftwing culture endemic in Lambeth, and other councils at the time.

It’s Rochdale redux.

You comment seems to reflect the attitude which allowed such things to go on for so long.
Also from the article on the report:-

“It is also critical of the children’s services inspectorate, Ofsted, and its predecessors, for failing to to do enough to identify the serious failures in services and staff practices, and the Metropolitan police for failing to properly investigate links between offenders identified in separate criminal investigations.”

I would say that the whole sorry affair is a reflection on the prevalent attitudes of the time, attitudes which were widespread across all of the political spectrum.. Historical child abuse has been widely uncovered in a variety of situations and establishments, schools, orphanages, churches, etc.

I certainly in no way condone such behavior, and personally I am no fan of extreme left wing politics.

I am also not a fan of relentless, and selective, cut and pasting in an effort to besmirch any political viewpoint other than your own.

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Historical child abuse has been widely uncovered in a variety of situations and establishments, schools, orphanages, churches, etc.
I fear that child abuse is another of those "the more you look, the more you find" scenarios; especially since people are inclined to view historical events through the prism of current standards. And for sure it isn't a preserve of the left, or right wing. It is around in all sections of society.
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Originally Posted by Avionker View Post
I am also not a fan of relentless, and selective, cut and pasting in an effort to besmirch any political viewpoint other than your own.
As Churchill might have said "Never in the field of human discourse was so much research effort used for so little effect".
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Originally Posted by Avionker View Post
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Quite a pathetic attempt to paint child abuse as a Left wing problem ORAC.
And yet it is predominately Labour Councils that these crimes happen. Historical issues with Labour and their association with PIE just won’t go away. But yes, you can be more upset with pronouns or Palestine.
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And yet it is predominately Labour Councils that these crimes happen. Historical issues with Labour and their association with PIE just won’t go away. But yes, you can be more upset with pronouns or Palestine.
Perhaps because Labour councils tend to be in the more deprived, less affluent areas of the country? Areas where social problems are more prevalent leading to a higher number of broken families and children requiring residential care?

Politicizing this issue neither serves the victims, nor prevents reoccurrence.

It just reflects very poorly on those attempting to score points.
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The problem as described isn’t one of left vs right politics - it’s one of vicious internecine infighting (this was the time of Militant and their takeover of local parties and councils) and a time when national politicians and bodies - including the police and CPS - were afraid of stepping in case they were targeted and had racism,sexism of other accusations used against them.

I’ll quote what I see as the relevant paragraph again. Just not sure much has changed except now people are afraid to speak out because of culture war shibboleths.

The chair of the inquiry, Prof Alexis Jay, said the children in care were pawns in a “toxic power game” within the council in the 1980s and 90s, which was characterised over many years by bullying, racism, nepotism and sexism, against a backdrop of political chaos, corruption and financial mismanagement.
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Not sure which is the most disgusting, the attempted politicising of, what is, universally abhorrent activity, or the prevalence of the crime. It is, unfortunately, unsurprising that the 'usual suspects' would jump onto this bandwaggon. The repeated revelations of parallels within the established and non-conformist religions seems to generate less fury. The over-riding and inescapable basis for all such problems is the established deference to power groups - of whatever type. The prevailing attitude to whistleblowers as being the 'bad guys' allows a range of anti-social activities, physical abuse, corruption, etc., to go unchecked or dismissed, and the lead in such behaviour comes from the top.
Until those in positions of power are called to account for their actions or inaction, Rochdale, Lambeth, the Churches and their functionaries will continue to act as before.

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I fear that child abuse is another of those "the more you look, the more you find" scenarios; especially since people are inclined to view historical events through the prism of current standards.
I would like to think that there was never a time when the alleged events would be considered acceptable.
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I would like to think that there was never a time when the alleged events would be considered acceptable.
No I wasn't thinking of the really serious stuff, but for example, many people today would consider sending a child to their bedroom (before the days of electronic devices), sending a child to bed without food or indeed smacking as punishments all to be abuse, albeit on a lesser scale than the really unpleasant and inexcusable stuff committed in children's homes and organisations such as the Catholic Church (other religious organisations are of course available and probably have similar skeletons to be uncovered). All three, incidentally happened to me more than half a century ago!



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The chair of the inquiry, Prof Alexis Jay, said the children in care were pawns in a “toxic power game” within the council in the 1980s and 90s, which was characterised over many years by bullying, racism, nepotism and sexism, against a backdrop of political chaos, corruption and financial mismanagement.

At least one of those leaders received an OBE thereafter for a variety of the above characterising
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Being a cynic, I wonder if it's left wing councils that one hears about in these cases merely because right wing councils are better at covering their tracks?
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I wonder if the inquiry has the identities of the pederasts and miscreants who physically, sexually and emotionally abused those young souls.

Name and shame, if they're still alive prosecute.
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