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Old 4th May 2021, 21:44
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I'm not really into guns jn any meaningful way but I came across a YouTube channel set up by a company called Kentucky Ballistics a while ago and find their reviews interesting to watch.
this one:
shows just how things can go wrong even for very experienced gun owners and I think the person concerned is very lucky to still be alive.
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Old 5th May 2021, 00:26
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Iíll admit to not being a fan of guns, coming from a country where access to firearms is tightly restricted and thinking that the US needs far stricter gun control laws. But I can see how an argument could be made for limited access to low powered handguns for self defence, rifles for farming or work purposes etc even though I may not agree with it.

But how could any rational person make an argument for civilian access to a .50 caliber rifle firing ďSLAPĒ ammunition - Saboted Light Armour Penetrator? Itís ammunition designed to take down tanks and aircraft on a battlefield. If thatís allowed under the Second Amendment why not a Stinger surface to air missile? Why not a Javelin anti-tank missile for civilian use?

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Old 5th May 2021, 01:40
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Well, you need these things for hunting fire hydrants, isn't it kind of obvious?
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There are some discussions on firearms bulletin boards as to whether this was a weapon design flaw or an ammunition flaw. Both, I think.

The screw breech used is 'backwards' from what are used on military guns. Typical designs involve a solid male plug which engages female thread in the back end of the chamber. The barrel and chamber are very heavy and not likely to deform under high pressure. The plug is solid and not going to deform. This rifle uses what is essentially a pipe cap. Pressure leaking out the back of the round stretches the cap to the point where it no longer engages the male thread at the back of the chamber. The thread strips off and the breech cap goes flying.

That 'hot round' (a SLAP round) that Scott fired sells for about $100 each on the surplus market. Probably unpacked from its original ammo can, bought and sold for years. And perhaps even reloaded by some half-wit. But even if not, old ammo can go unstable and its burning characteristics become unpredictable.

This is going to be a lesson that all the ammo-hoarders (civilian, police and military) are going to have to think about. Stuff that is bought up during the pandemic, put on the back shelf in the armory and then issued to the new recruits for their first day on the practice range. No thanks.
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Old 5th May 2021, 02:46
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why not a Stinger surface to air missile? Why not a Javelin anti-tank missile for civilian use?
Too much. I'll stick with my single shot, muzzle loading Davy Crockett rifle.




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"Them hawgs is tough mudders, they hide is like armour, Ah needs this belt-fed mortar to bring'em down!"
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Reloading ammo is not a task best carried out by anyone who doesn't suffer from OCD. The great risk with something like the .357 Magnum is that I could easily get an accidental double-load of powder in the large case without realising. I wonder if this might be what had happened in the 50BMG? Like aviation, firearms are very unforgiving of even the slightest carelessness.
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Son of a breach.
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Old 5th May 2021, 09:22
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Well, you need these things for hunting fire hydrants, isn't it kind of obvious?
Yes, those hydrants are dangerous creatures. They have even been known to jump out and destroy cars.
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Yes, those hydrants are dangerous creatures. They have even been known to jump out and destroy cars.
That's why you are not allowed to park in front of them!
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I guess his new hobby is completing jigsaw puzzles
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Regarding your Davy Crockett missile. I'm sure I read somewhere that the lethal range was greater than the missile max range. Meaning that after firing it the launcher crew had to dive into a trench and hope for the best.
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My job used to be to fly MILAN missile carrying soldiers to their firing point. During one exercise we were invited to stand in a trench on the range firing point and watch one being fired at distant targets. The missile flew about ten metres from the trench before hitting the ground and exploding. Dunno about those Russians but it certainly scared the **** out of me.
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the lethal range was greater than the missile max range
Yes. Particularly if the wind is blowing the wrong way.

Anecdote: I have a friend who was a member of the US Army Rangers as a paratrooper. He was trained on the use of the SADM backpack nuke . From what he was allowed to say, he described the potential missions as being dropped in in two man teams, setting the charge with a timer and making ones' way to a submarine for extraction. But the primary use of these was to be to stop Soviet troops coming through the Fulda Gap. They aren't going to send a sub up there. And the timers on the devices were not going to give the team time to get clear in rough terrain. There have been rumors that the timers were non-functional anyway. Dial an hour into the timer, press the red button and 'Bang!'. They couldn't afford to have the retreating team intercepted by enemy troops and either tortured or (very simply) bloodhounds used to find and disarm it.

I suspect that the Davy Crockett was designed with many of the same parameters in mind.
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Iíll admit to not being a fan of guns,
Dawg, you've changed...
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Texas is giving up the need for the Concealed Carry Permit. They say it's impinges on the 2nd, and we can't have that. So it's gone back to the days when I took all my guns over there. Called down to Doc's Guns to pick them up and they said, You don't have to do anything, No registration here.

Since then I had to go through an FBI paperwork check, the cost of which was halved because I was old. The range work was elementary.

Going to a gun show made it clear just how useless having a card in my pocket was. When un-concealing at the front door, folk were pulling a bewildering armoury out of their breeches. Swarthy Mexicans were producing Machetes that seemed as long as their legs, and large, rather dim looking males were upgrading their 20 thousand volt Tasers for 50 kv offerings - staring fixedly on the three" crackling arc held not that far from their noses.

Red dots wobbled on almost every sign hanging on the walls.

Ah, well. It'll save the paperwork.
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Scott's RN-50 has finally made it's way to the manufacturer who hopefully can figure out what happened. As lots have guessed it looks like an ammo issue, massive overpressure needed for that kind of damage!
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