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Old 17th Apr 2021, 07:20
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Climate Change, let's stop eating fish

Just watched the Seaspiracy documentary on a streaming service. Basically commercial fishing is destroying the ocean and marine food chain to the extent we will end up with dead oceans and not enough oxygen.

Lots of dots being joined up but is the final picture correct? Is it yet another conspiracy theory by special interest groups? Or is the seafood platter on the way out?

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Old 17th Apr 2021, 07:35
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Climate Change, let's stop eating.

Corrected that for you.
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Old 17th Apr 2021, 07:40
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
Corrected that for you.
Or more correctly, "Climate Change let's stop eating animal products"

Are more accurate slogan might be "Climate Change, let's stop breeding". Population is the problem, and one that few governments really want to tackle head on, not wishing to risk the wrath of many, if not most, mainstream religions.

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Old 17th Apr 2021, 07:56
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No way, I love bread making!
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
"Climate Change, let's stop breading".
Crumbs! But I agree entirely...

Having ships like this hoovering up everything in sight is not helpful; it was busy in British waters about 18 months ago and I do wonder how much fish and meat ends up chucked away by supermarkets and householders around the globe. I buy just what I'm going to eat over the next couple of weeks and I believe most meat products have a finite freezer life.

My Tesco seems to have endless quantities of packaged sea bass discounted at the end of its shelf life - not a fish I'm keen on so I never buy any but if they have mackerel, mmmm.

But the oceans are huge and while the North Sea may be a bit short on cod, I don't doubt there are billions and billions of other forms of sea life busy breading - how else does my haddock get like that?
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Let’s stop people procreating like rabbits Would be my not politically correct solution.

Grab the problem from its bottom not the top.....
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The packaged sea bass is farmed, not trawled.

I once picked up a pack of frozen cod in an Iceland store. "Produce of China". Read recently that the Chinese have very large trawlers which ignore all fishing conventions.
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Someone will make a meal of this thread..............
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Old 17th Apr 2021, 08:30
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
The packaged sea bass is farmed, not trawled.

I once picked up a pack of frozen cod in an Iceland store. "Produce of China". Read recently that the Chinese have very large trawlers which ignore all fishing conventions.
Knew salmon was farmed never realised they farm sea bass too.

Just looking at what I have in the freezer - frozen haddock from North Sea/NE Atlantic/Barents Sea, salmon is of Chinese origin caught in the Pacific using such and such a method - think the last lot I bought was farmed and came from Eastern Europe. Can of Tuna just says "responsibly caught for Tesco, Dun Laoghaire", which I think is their address!
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Someone will make a meal of this thread..............
...make no bones about it.

Ooh, could just fancy a kipper now!
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
The packaged sea bass is farmed, not trawled.

I once picked up a pack of frozen cod in an Iceland store. "Produce of China". Read recently that the Chinese have very large trawlers which ignore all fishing conventions.
Most of the fish we eat in our household is either farmed (Sea Bream and Bass from Greece, generally) Salmon or Rainbow Trout. The rest, Monk Fish, John Dory, Plaice, Skate and Mackerel is fished on day boats from Brixham and brought from the quayside to our local fishmonger so its as fresh as it can be here in the landlocked Midlands.

I don't buy the prepacked stuff from the supermarkets, and since Tesco and Sainsbury have knocked preparing fish in the store on their fish counters I rarely buy fresh (?) fish from them. Best supermarket, again for "proper" wet fish is, and has been for years, Morrisons, if there isn't a local fishmonger then they are a pretty reasonable alternative. Their fishmongers can actually fillet and pin-bone and do simple, but arduous tasks like removing the membrane from Monkfish. Once asked a fishmonger in Sainsburys to do the latter, it was like watching a comedy sketch!
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Can of Tuna just says "responsibly caught for Tesco, Dun Laoghaire", which I think is their address!
I may stand corrected, but I don't think you get much Tuna swimming off Dun Laoghaire; you might get Albacore which does live around our shores, is related to Tuna and very tasty, but as I understand it another species on the MSC endangered list, on the very rate occasions we have bought it, it came off the Brixham day boats. Can't remember the last time we got any, it's a few years ago now.
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Old 17th Apr 2021, 09:16
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So the rot set in when Enid Blyton's 'children' went shrimping ...
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Old 17th Apr 2021, 09:36
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I miss buying seafood 'on the hoof' as it were. In Chinese most shellfish and fowl are sold live. With the prawns there are large tanks on seawater with all the prawns swimming around the bottom.

A small.20 x 20 transparent bag is grasped and a small fishing net enables one to scoop out the ones one feels suitable. Once that is done than one holds the top of the bag and tears a fraction off a bottom corner to allow surplus water to drain back into the tank so that you don't pay yuan/kilo for water. The vendor then weighs the bag and one pays up.

The prawns survive quite well for a couple of hours in the bag but comes the time to cook them. Tradition is just to throw them into boiling water and bang the lid on but I found I wasn't fast enough and chasing them around the kitchen was a bit of a bore.

I learned to fill the sink with tapwater and throw them in; they then die slowly and relaxed in about half an hour

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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post

Read recently that the Chinese have very large trawlers which ignore all fishing conventions.
Just like the Russians have been doing for over 50 years in fact.
Anyway I hate the vile disgusting taste of fish so who am I to comment.
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I prefer my fish delivered directly to me while fresh

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There was a pub I used to visit near Midhurst,very popular with the Polo set from Cowdray Park.This was an ancient place,dating from the 14/15th century,and outside,there were a lot of stone-built 'stew-ponds' fed by a stream,dating from a similar period,when you couldn't just nip down to your local supermarket.These ponds were full of trout,and my understanding is that if you ordered that from the menu,one would be fished out then cooked.You couldn't get fresher than that !
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Originally Posted by lomapaseo View Post
I prefer my fish delivered directly to me while fresh

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That's what you get if you get to or over MTOW... Lesson learned.
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Lobsters v. Homo Sapiens

Nearly six decades ago, my family joined the families of my father's two sisters for Sunday Dinner. This particular week's gathering was at Aunt Mimi's - a delightful and extraordinarily patient woman who was married to a very skilled internist who happened to be held in the tight grasp of alcoholism from 1951 until his death in 1972.

Dinner was to be extra-special this day, for Uncle Scott and Aunt Mimi had purchased a keg of live lobsters from one of the few fishmongers in Atlanta. Fifteen nice crustaceans for fifteen hungry bipeds! Just add drawn butter with lemon juice, a crisp tossed salad with croutons and bleu cheese dressing, and fresh corn on the cob for an excellent repast.

Uncle Scott, who had enjoyed a breakfast of bourbon, shooed us children out of the kitchen after we had shared a glimpse of lobsters in their barrel/prison and their torture apparatus: an huge tub about eighteen inches tall, wide enough to span the three front burners of my cousins' immense gas stove. As we vacated la cuisine, we observed the first of the lobsters being stripped of the rubber bands which held its claws in a closed and benign embrace, then tossed rapidly if somewhat awkwardly into the tub. We children retired to the living room where we were on our best behavior so as to impress the adults and avoid life-crippling embarrassment.

Twenty minutes later, just as my father (always a highly amusing gentleman) intoned "Bring me a lobster and make it snappy!", one of the decapods, as if on cue, scrabbled into the living room, its sharp wiggly legs finding easy purchase on the dense pile carpeting. Still green! Still alive! Claws raised! Urge to kill projecting from its bulbous bug eyes! The devil incarnate! Coming closer by the second!

High-pitched screams spilled from the adult females in the living room, while the younger girls shrieked so loudly that I continue to suffer tinnitus to this very day. My father (always a highly courageous gentleman) leapt to his feet to investigate. He was joined immediately by Uncle Benjamin, who, at 6'6" - 275 lbs., could easily outmatch any of the family Nephropidae (and eat three of 'em at one sitting!)

After stepping over a fierce platoon of escapee lobsters which were recaptured without injury and with incomparable aplomb, here is what they found: Uncle Scott asleep in the family room. The TV was on and there was a half-consumed Wild Turkey highball on the table beside him. Moving to the kitchen, they discovered several lobsters scattering toward numerous points of the compass as well as one overcooked beast in the "Tub O'Death" a/k/a "Watery Grave".

No need for Sherlock Holmes nor e'en Jacques Cousteau to solve this culinary mystery! Proving beyond doubt that the road to Hell is paved with good intentions, poor Uncle Scott had carefully plucked all fifteen lobsters from their seaweed encaskment and placed them in the tub atop the stove. He then proceeded to light and set all three front burners on "High". Next, he adjourned to the family room to catch some American Football and/or some z-z-z-z-z.

One need not consult Ivan Petrovich Pavlov nor Burrhus Frederic Skinner to unravel the cause and effect relationship. Live Lobsters plus gradually heating cold water equals step on dumbest companion then jump out of pot to escape being boiled alive! Then: RUN AWAY! And so they did.

After a complete and diligent search of the large premises, fourteen of the fifteen lobsters were recovered and despite their attorney's (Sponge Bob Squarepants, LL.D.) pleas regarding double jeopardy, found their euthanasic demise in a large tub of water on a rolling boil. They were, in a word, Delicious!

Mathematicians among you may ask what became of the unfound beastie. A week elapsed before his malodorous odiferous exoskeletal corpse gave him away and he was finally located. His peripatations had led him over one hundred feet, down two long hallways and, no doubt gasping for water, beneath the bed of his would-be executioner, the blameless and unsuspecting Uncle Scott! There, dreaming of coral reefs, mermaids, and purloined bait, Sir Lobster popped his, errr, claws.

Lobsters 1, Humans 0

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Old 17th Apr 2021, 20:17
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Brilliant Ed!
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