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Old 17th Apr 2021, 13:19
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It was found British outline model railways looked a bit small beside 'half O gauge' or HO which was 3.5mm/ft so we adopted 4mm/ft instead.
I think the real reason is that early British outline models used German mechanisms (Bing, Marklin), and since British trains are quite a bit smaller than European ones, they wouldn't fit. Solution: make the bodywork bigger. As a result, OO gauge works out to a scale equivalent of 4' 1.5" gauge (instead of 4' 8.5"). As a result there are purists (including me, once upon a very long time ago) who instead use a track gauge of 18mm or 18.83mm.

None of this bothers the Japanese, who cheerfully use N gauge (1/160) with 9mm track to represent their 3' 6" gauge railways, nor indeed the Irish or the Spanish.
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Old 17th Apr 2021, 20:06
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Humbrol used to use Airfix moulds for some kits. Revell released the Matchbox Puma and have added to it over the years with different variants, but the basic matchbox Puma kit is still in there, with added sprues. There are two Revell btw, Revell Germany is the go getters releasing new 1/32 kits such as the HE 111 at decent prices and Revell USA that went bust recently and I知 not sure if they are still in business.
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Old 17th Apr 2021, 22:06
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At one time Airfix, Humbrol and Heller were all owned by the Borden company, which saw a number of crossovers and mould sharing between the two kit companies as well as Humbrol issuing mostly Heller kits under its brand name. Heller is now back in French hands while Airfix and Humbrol are both owned by Hornby. Humbrol nowadays makes paints, solvents and tools to build the kits with.

The owner of both Revell USA (which took over Monogram some years back) and Revell Germany went bust in 2018, and the brands have a new owner. Because of this Revell Germany is not producing a lot of new kits of its own at the moment, and is bolstering its range by reboxing a lot of mouldings from other companies including ICM, Hasegawa, Kinetic, Eduard and Special Hobby. Bit of a curate's egg, as you're not always sure quite whose kit you'll get when you open the box. Revell Germany has produced some very nice kits of its own, however, and a new mould 1/48th SR-71 is on their schedule for this year, which has certainly caught my attention. The company owns a number of Matchbox moulds, and there is usually a few of them in its catalogue.

There is not a lot of crossover between the two Revells, though car kits often appear in each others' ranges. Revell USA cars are always 1/25th scale, while Revell Germany make theirs in 1/24th.
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Old 18th Apr 2021, 08:06
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Originally Posted by chevvron View Post
You forgot Frog, which were produced long before Airfix and were mostly 1/72nd; the early ones (pre WW2) sometmes had balsa parts as well as plastic.
In the early '60s, Frog had a revival but I think they were caught up with all the other Lines Bros products going bust and the moulds were sold to Novo which I'm told was a Russian company.
Frog produced some quite unique models in 1/72nd in the '50s eg Fairy Gannet, Vulcan and Victor B1s and these moulds were used again in the '60s alongside their 'new' models such as Wessex helicopter, Blackburn Skua, Miles Magister and Master and many others.
(PS Anyone remember the airframe number of the Wessex Mk 1? I have a personal interest)
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Martin, I've already got two of the Academy Spitfires - actually three if I include the high-back - Rolls Royce civvy scheme for G-ALGT appeals! - and it looks well enough to me. I'm kind of determined not to buy any more kits as there lots unbuilt in the loft... Mind you, a 1/48 Beech 18 rather than the awful French kit I've got would be nice - there is one out there now...

A lot of the old Frog kits were produced by Novo in the '70s and our local haberdashers/stationery/toy shop sold them, at one point for very silly money, maybe 10p each. I recall buying several Wessii, Gannets, Barracuda and a Proctor - maybe others too - for less than a pound when I was 13 or so.
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Old 18th Apr 2021, 09:21
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I remember a mate and I,in the early 70's found a small upstairs room in a local newsagent where they had been keeping a lot of early plastic model kits.We bought quite a few over the next year or two,but the only ones I remember at this distance are a Canberra (PR 3 ?),with the pilots torso and head moulded integral with the fuselage halves,and the Airfix control tower - in a plastic bag,rather than the box in which it was subsequently issued.They too were very cheap iirc.
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Old 18th Apr 2021, 15:48
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Originally Posted by NutLoose View Post
Humbrol used to use Airfix moulds for some kits. Revell released the Matchbox Puma and have added to it over the years with different variants, but the basic matchbox Puma kit is still in there, with added sprues. There are two Revell btw, Revell Germany is the go getters releasing new 1/32 kits such as the HE 111 at decent prices and Revell USA that went bust recently and I知 not sure if they are still in business.
I致e made models nearly all my life with only a rest when children arrived. Picked it up again and when I was in the mob I made (commissioned) leaving pressies for people leaving. I知 building the Revell Puma at the mo which I started a year ago tomorrow, I知 sure it had 1971 stamped on the inside of the tailboom.

with regards Airfix I have memories of the 1/72 Canberra being popular and when the Hawk and Tornado prototypes came out, I was beside myself with excitement.
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Old 18th Apr 2021, 16:54
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yes it’s the original 1/32 Matchbox kit, Revell reissued it with the tiger scheme, a new set of pilots seats, load pole and the poly intakes, possibly but 8m not sure plastic rotor blades, the next update was the BS version with the original kit, added parts from the tiger kit minus the decals and different doors and sponsons I think.
add to that

original kit

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/matc...0-puma--120896

rebox tiger meet

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/reve...ermeet--120924

German update with sponsons

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/reve...olizei--142975

final version BGS

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/reve...ma-bgs--120879

take it you have seen

http://tedtaylor.hobbyvista.com/72-m...a/page-72.html

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Old 18th Apr 2021, 18:29
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Originally Posted by NutLoose View Post
yes it痴 the original 1/32 Matchbox kit, Revell reissued it with the tiger scheme, a new set of pilots seats, load pole and the poly intakes, possibly but 8m not sure plastic rotor blades, the next update was the BS version with the original kit, added parts from the tiger kit minus the decals and different doors and sponsons I think.
add to that

original kit

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/matc...0-puma--120896

rebox tiger meet

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/reve...ermeet--120924

German update with sponsons

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/reve...olizei--142975

final version BGS

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/reve...ma-bgs--120879

take it you have seen

Matchbox 1/32nd Puma
yes thanks the Ted Taylor one I have visited a couple of times. I知 building the tigermeet version but as an NI fit cab. Some good reference sites but no books I could find what so ever.
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Originally Posted by treadigraph View Post
Martin, I've already got two of the Academy Spitfires - actually three if I include the high-back - Rolls Royce civvy scheme for G-ALGT appeals! - and it looks well enough to me. I'm kind of determined not to buy any more kits as there lots unbuilt in the loft... Mind you, a 1/48 Beech 18 rather than the awful French kit I've got would be nice - there is one out there now...

A lot of the old Frog kits were produced by Novo in the '70s and our local haberdashers/stationery/toy shop sold them, at one point for very silly money, maybe 10p each. I recall buying several Wessii, Gannets, Barracuda and a Proctor - maybe others too - for less than a pound when I was 13 or so.
Yes, I keep telling myself that as well. And then somebody will bring out something that I've always wanted etc.

The ICM Beech 18, which has also been reboxed by Revell, is a nice little kit. Needs a little use of the modelling skills, but makes up into a most attractive replica.
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Old 18th Apr 2021, 19:18
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Originally Posted by chevvron View Post
Frog produced some quite unique models in 1/72nd in the '50s eg Fairy Gannet, Vulcan and Victor B1s and these moulds were used again in the '60s alongside their 'new' models such as Wessex helicopter, Blackburn Skua, Miles Magister and Master and many others.(PS Anyone remember the airframe number of the Wessex Mk 1? I have a personal interest)
HAS1 XP104 I think. Still have some of the Novo pressings of the kit in the loft.
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Old 19th Apr 2021, 09:31
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HAS1 XP104 I think. Still have some of the Novo pressings of the kit in the loft.
You're probably right.
I was just remembering my first flight at Farnborough having been posted there (as an ATCO) only a week previously, it was in the left hand seat of Mk 1 XM330; AVPIN starter; a couple of years later a little too much AVPIN was injected on start and the airframe was wfu.
That still left us with Mk 5s XL728 and XS241 to scrounge flights in though!!
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XM330 was damaged by fire in June '82 and WFU. Now in the Helicopter Museum in Weston-Super-Mare.

Probably going to start moving my boxes of unmade kits back into the loft from the spare bedroom now that I've sorted out the post-new roof insulation and given it a clean. It will also make space to start building the odd one!
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Happy Days Chevron!.
I also got XM 330 and WS241 logged a couple of times in the summer of 1970.courtesy of Southern Squadron's Messrs Hamilton and Welsh.
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yes thanks the Ted Taylor one I have visited a couple of times. I’m building the tigermeet version but as an NI fit cab. Some good reference sites but no books I could find what so ever.
Don't forget the likes of Flikr for images, they do not tend to flag up

https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=raf%20puma

https://www.flickr.com/groups/[email protected]/pool/page19
also


http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/ul...dex.php?Page=1

http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/pa...dex.php?Page=2

SA330B but with interior

http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/je...embert/sa330b/

http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/pi.../sa-330b_1052/

RAF ferry tanks didn't have the rubber cover on them and had spreader plates under the feet that DL I believe designed, or so he told me.

I have the kit to build as I used to be on them in the late 70's

what a cracking shot!

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Old 19th Apr 2021, 13:38
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Airfix were great, I remember building the Braniff Big Orange amd Lufthansa 737-200 back in the day.... also the Space 1999 Eagle Interceptor, which "flew" around the garden with Commander Flash in control. However, not being of well-off meant the ultimate kits were out of my reach.. those of Tamiya... they were back in the late 70's in a league of their own (with a price to match). If I recall they were mostly military vehicles and stuff, whatever they were premium.
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I've recently joined a few social media groups dedicated to models. The memory jog has left me astonished at the sheer number of different things I built in my teens (plus the relatively huge amount of cash I must have sunk in to my hobby).
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None of this bothers the Japanese, who cheerfully use N gauge (1/160) with 9mm track to represent their 3' 6" gauge railways...
Not quite. Japanese manufacturers use 1/160th scale and 9mm gauge track for their Shinkansen models, but 1/150th scale on 9mm gauge for models of 3'6" gauge trains. Just to confuse the issue, they also use 1/150th scale on 9mm gauge for models of non-Shinkansen standard gauge trains.

HO scale is no better - there's 1/80th scale on 16.5mm gauge track, 1/80th on 13mm gauge, and 1/87th on 12mm gauge!
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Old 22nd Apr 2021, 21:49
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Not quite. Japanese manufacturers use 1/160th scale and 9mm gauge track for their Shinkansen models, but 1/150th scale on 9mm gauge for models of 3'6" gauge trains.
Can we diverge into model railways?

As a boy I had a 00 Hornby Shunter and a Lima Shunter (these were cheapest way when you couldn't afford the regular engines to haul your carriages) - I was amazed that the Lima Shunter had twice the power of the Hornby Shunter for half the price, it was faster and hauled more! Just goes to show you don't always get what you pay for!
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