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Old 2nd Apr 2021, 13:11
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Got a message from my European bank today. "From now on you will have
to enter your PIN for contactless transactions". Seems a backward step
in these Covid times.
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Old 2nd Apr 2021, 14:03
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Well I used mine yesterday in France - No Pin Code required.

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Old 2nd Apr 2021, 14:04
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Originally Posted by esa-aardvark View Post
Got a message from my European bank today. "From now on you will have
to enter your PIN for contactless transactions". Seems a backward step
in these Covid times.
Not to worry, as many providers are also simultaneously introducing voice-activated PIN verification at the checkout.
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Old 2nd Apr 2021, 14:08
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Which bank out of interest?
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Old 2nd Apr 2021, 14:12
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Was a la Caixa (Spain) card.
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Old 2nd Apr 2021, 14:24
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I wonder if this is in anyway connected with the planned contactless limit increasing from £45 to £100?

Just as a related observation, I recently had to insert my contactless credit card into a card reader (but no PIN required) to pay a motorway toll fee; in the past it was just tap and go.





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Old 2nd Apr 2021, 14:36
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I think UK banks decline/ask for chip pin after several transactions or accumulated spend for security. Agree this seems a backward step especially at this time.
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Old 2nd Apr 2021, 15:14
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Originally Posted by spekesoftly View Post
I wonder if this is in anyway connected with the planned contactless limit increasing from £45 to £100?

Just as a related observation, I recently had to insert my contactless credit card into a card reader (but no PIN required) to pay a motorway toll fee; in the past it was just tap and go.
The proposed increase would only apply to cards issued by UK banks, so not relevant to La Caixa cards.
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Old 2nd Apr 2021, 15:59
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Originally Posted by esa-aardvark View Post
Got a message from my European bank today. "From now on you will have
to enter your PIN for contactless transactions". Seems a backward step in these Covid times.
Or maybe a Bank with a sense of humour and the message Rx'd a day late?
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Old 2nd Apr 2021, 16:40
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Given that in UK you can Tap and Go up to £45 soon to be £100 I have a car park I use in a country park and it's £3 Tap and Go....well not this one. It's Tap represent Tap and go. How confusing is that!!
Now yesterday it was Tap, re Tap Printing Receipt and the barrier did not open... there is a mobile no to call if any problems and finding mobile calling it was answered in a jeep parked just off who said to re do card. .. no effin way come and sort it.
Hooting from tbe cars behind but stuff em. Eventually he came over and manually released tbe gate and off I went
Checked tbe pending transactions and not been charged.
Point is that remote Tap and Go should have a instant release means for when the system stuffs up.
PS all car parks should be free of charge!!
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Old 2nd Apr 2021, 17:10
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Originally Posted by Kiltrash View Post
Given that in UK you can Tap and Go up to £45 soon to be £100 I have a car park I use in a country park and it's £3 Tap and Go....well not this one. It's Tap represent Tap and go. How confusing is that!!
Now yesterday it was Tap, re Tap Printing Receipt and the barrier did not open... there is a mobile no to call if any problems and finding mobile calling it was answered in a jeep parked just off who said to re do card. .. no effin way come and sort it.
Hooting from tbe cars behind but stuff em. Eventually he came over and manually released tbe gate and off I went
Checked tbe pending transactions and not been charged.
Point is that remote Tap and Go should have a instant release means for when the system stuffs up.
PS all car parks should be free of charge!!
If all car parks were free, then there would be no car parks! We live on an island of finite space. As it is, give it 100 years or so and every square inch of land will be paved over. It is a logical conclusion if you look at population increases over the years. The Peak District will be full of 3 bed housing estates.
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Old 2nd Apr 2021, 17:19
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Originally Posted by Torquetalk View Post
Not to worry, as many providers are also simultaneously introducing voice-activated PIN verification at the checkout.
Brlliant, Torquetalk! I think too many people skimmed right by this. 😀
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Old 2nd Apr 2021, 17:53
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Originally Posted by Torquetalk View Post
Not to worry, as many providers are also simultaneously introducing voice-activated PIN verification at the checkout.
At last! I've often wondered why you can't just say your PIN at the checkout. What could possibly go wrong?
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Old 2nd Apr 2021, 19:21
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
At last! I've often wondered why you can't just say your PIN at the checkout. What could possibly go wrong?
You wouldn’t actually say your pin 😂.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.t...e-as-it-sounds
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Old 3rd Apr 2021, 10:07
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You wouldn’t actually say your pin
And the geezer behind you, with his mobile phone set to record audio....
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Old 3rd Apr 2021, 10:38
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And the geezer behind you, with his mobile phone set to record audio....
Well presumably they ask you to say something different each time...
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Old 3rd Apr 2021, 11:07
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I wonder if the contactless card system has been cracked necessitating the extra step of using a PIN. What I think is most likely is the secret keys that are used to validate the transactions which are stored in the bank have probably been stolen - perhaps related to the recent Solarwinds exploit which was a biggie.

In a way, the PIN can be considered as the second factor authentication (2FA) which is a good thing, perhaps that data wasn't stolen from the banks because nobody was using it at the time.

Or maybe it was just something even more simpler - too many people with poor memories disputing their own transactions.

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Old 3rd Apr 2021, 14:31
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Well presumably they ask you to say something different each time...
With HSBC you have to train the voice recognition to "My voice is my password" - there is no capability for it recognising anything different.
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Same with Lloyds
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Old 4th Apr 2021, 03:57
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Amazon has your solution.

https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=covid+t..._ts-doa-p_1_11
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