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Old 21st Mar 2021, 22:07
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What price freedom for demonstrations when anarchists get the reins... especially when the protesters were demanding Kill the Bill. Two meanings but which ones were some of them really advocating?
I'm all for the Spanish Guardia Civil approach when these agitators push their agendas.
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Old 21st Mar 2021, 22:21
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I live in North Bristol and am shocked and disappointed with the news of the 'demonstration' in Bristol city centre. It seems a small number of idiots were determined to cause damage and pain to anyone who stood in their path - be them police or other members of the public. Well done police for restraint in extreme circumstances.

I hope the law catches up with the protestors and they face justice.
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Old 22nd Mar 2021, 08:01
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One of the problems with all this the Police are too busy trying to pander to the wants of the vocal few.
They would have a great deal more support if they said this is the law we are here to uphold it.
Cross the line and we will take decisive action (ie hand out a proportionate amount of shoe).
At disorder events like in Bristol, Police by consent by all means as long as the truncheon is called consent.
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Old 22nd Mar 2021, 11:14
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I know England isn’t exactly “Fort Apache, the Bronx”, but given the history of riots and violent protests over the last couple of centuries, I would question the widespread use of glass in the construction of police stations frontages.

A couple of photos from Bristol and an intact example in Brighton.









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Old 22nd Mar 2021, 12:24
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I saw a few seconds in a clip on BBC this morning and lo and behold! Among the protestors was someone, suitably disguised with hat, scarf, face mask etc, holding up a placard saying "Abolish the Police". I wish the organisers of these legitimate protestors could deal with nonces such as that. Maybe tell them in terms they would understand to sling their hooks. They are distracting attention away from the legitimate concerns the protestors may have and leaving people with the impression the whole thing is just some anarchist bean feast.
To be honest that is exactly the conclusion I drew from the Bristol events. Rent-a-mon miffed at the idea of having their activities curtailed kicked off. And as for the mantra "Kill the Bill" is has two meanings clearly, but I would suggest the more extreme one was to the fore yesterday evening. If they could have killed one they would have been more than satisfied with their evenings work.

If there are legitimate concerns, then they have been totally undermined by the actions of the riffraff.
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Old 22nd Mar 2021, 16:09
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Not sure they were riff-raff. More likely to be from SWP, and fellow travellers.

The few who wanted a riot clearly came prepared.

Most protesters left before the "riots" .
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Old 22nd Mar 2021, 20:41
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The SWP would with very little doubt been at the forefront of this riot. Jeremy Corbyn and his loony brother have been busy agitating as of late against anything they can.

Time for some doors to be booted down in some very early police raids, IMHO.
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Old 23rd Mar 2021, 08:21
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They were far left scum whatever group they want to ally themselves with. Black Lives Matter, Reclaim The Streets, Kill The Bill were all represented. Didn't see any police officers taking the knee this time though.
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Old 24th Mar 2021, 02:16
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The troublemakers in Bristol are out again tonight,

Kill the Bill Bristol protests: Police action at demo - BBC News

A pity May put a stop to Boris having water cannons to deal with this anarchy.
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Old 26th Mar 2021, 12:22
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Yet we have another ongoing protest in the UK with dozens of people having an illegal demonstration in breach of Covid restrictions along with threats made and teachers being intimidated yet the police are more than happy to allow it to continue and a police spokesperson was quoted as saying that the road had been closed for a short time, no arrests were made and no fines were issued.
Batley Grammar School: Protest over image of Prophet Mohammed shown in class 'unacceptable', say education officials | UK News | Sky News

And there was me thinking that the law was meant to be impartial and applied equally to all regardless of colour, race religion or sex.
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Old 26th Mar 2021, 13:41
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Yet we have another ongoing protest in the UK with dozens of people having an illegal demonstration in breach of Covid restrictions along with threats made and teachers being intimidated yet the police are more than happy to allow it to continue and a police spokesperson was quoted as saying that the road had been closed for a short time, no arrests were made and no fines were issued.
Batley Grammar School: Protest over image of Prophet Mohammed shown in class 'unacceptable', say education officials | UK News | Sky News

And there was me thinking that the law was meant to be impartial and applied equally to all regardless of colour, race religion or sex.
Enforcement of the law in Britain has long been selective and open to political interference. The "religion of Peace" is treated with kid gloves, and has been since the Blair era.

The multiple under age sex scandals covered-up for many years in Britain is witness to this.
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Old 26th Mar 2021, 21:23
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And there was me thinking that the law was meant to be impartial and applied equally to all regardless of colour, race religion or sex.
On paper, it does but in reality I think that many people would agree that the implementation of certain laws are extremely biased when it comes to certain sections of the population and this case is simply another clear example of how the police appear to be afraid to do anything that could upset one of those groups.

Now, if it was little old ladies having a cup of tea with their friends or meeting up with other members of the Women's Institute, I'm sure that there would already have been fines issued.
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Old 27th Mar 2021, 03:17
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It would seem the left-wing rabble in Bristol are itching for a fight with the police again this weekend, with clashes in Friday night near the scene of last week's riot,

Bristol Kill the Bill protest: Riot police disperse protesters - BBC News

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Old 27th Mar 2021, 03:23
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Originally Posted by 747 jock View Post
On paper, it does but in reality I think that many people would agree that the implementation of certain laws are extremely biased when it comes to certain sections of the population and this case is simply another clear example of how the police appear to be afraid to do anything that could upset one of those groups.

Now, if it was little old ladies having a cup of tea with their friends or meeting up with other members of the Women's Institute, I'm sure that there would already have been fines issued.
This is what happens then politically appointed woke Chief Constables are appointed who are willing to take the knee and pander to criminal elements. The upper ranks of the British police are in many cases unfit for purpose and have been found wanting on many occasions since the XRW and BLM riots broke out over the past two years.

Boris and Patel need to man up, smell the coffee and start replacing the political appointees, starting with the useless Cressida Dick.
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Old 30th Mar 2021, 12:09
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56574557

Police 'acted appropriately' at Sarah Everard vigil

The Metropolitan Police acted "appropriately" at a vigil for Sarah Everard in south London earlier this month, a police watchdog has found.

The force was criticised after officers handcuffed women and removed them from crowds on Clapham Common on 13 March.

However, Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Constabulary found the force had acted in "a measured and proportionate way"......

The home secretary commissioned an independent investigation into the force's decisions on the evening of the vigil, which were taken in the light of Covid restrictions.

The inspectorate found that the force was "justified" in deciding that the risks of transmitting coronavirus "were too great to ignore when planning for and policing the event". It said officers "did their best to peacefully disperse the crowd" and "remained calm and professional"......

It said its inspection involved reviewing documents and body camera video footage.

Matt Parr, who led the inspection team, said: "We found that there are some things the Met could have done better, but we saw nothing to suggest police officers acted in anything but a measured and proportionate way in challenging circumstances.".....

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An inspection of the Metropolitan Police Service’s policing of a vigil held in commemoration of Sarah Everard on Clapham Common on Saturday 13 March 2021
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Old 30th Mar 2021, 13:38
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Originally Posted by ORAC View Post
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56574557

Police 'acted appropriately' at Sarah Everard vigil

The Metropolitan Police acted "appropriately" at a vigil for Sarah Everard in south London earlier this month, a police watchdog has found.
In which case, I find it impossible to believe that they didn't act appropriately when dealing with the demonstration outside the school in Yorkshire.
After all, if an illegal demonstration held during the hours of darkness posed a risk of spreading Covid, surely a demonstration during daylight hours when there are far more people about poses a bigger risk.
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Old 30th Mar 2021, 15:12
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Bristol's local SWP is a much more active branch than in many other towns.
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Old 30th Mar 2021, 16:05
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The enthusiasm, manifestly displayed in the above posts, for more 'robust' action by the police, does not sit well with those of us who witnessed their politicisation by the blessed Hilda and the disgraceful behaviour they exhibited when given that sort of free rein. The British police are NOT established as a militia or an armed branch of Government. They are a citizen group entrusted with the task of maintaining order and dealing with criminal activity within the bounds of established law. Such a limitation may irk a section of the populace, who would prefer to see a trail of broken heads and limbs as a demonstration of civilised behaviour; I hope that it is not universal ! Unruly behaviour by a section (or more) of society is as much an indication of failure of governance as it is of anti-social intent. Taken to its illogical conclusion we have Tiananmen Square, Myanmar's chaos or, at the individual level Derek Chauvin. Promoting the death of an innocent civilian may well lead to the highest position in the UK Police but it still 'sticks in the craw' of some of us !
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Old 30th Mar 2021, 17:05
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A use for Boris's Water Cannon???

Then aim them at Boris.

I wish they would all take their protests to Tiananmen Square.

See how they get on there.................
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Old 31st Mar 2021, 09:13
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One has to ask, just how many of the enthusiasts for violent police action have bothered to consider why these protests occur. Because of a love of discord and violence per se ? or, is it a last resort for those who have no influence in their day-to-day governance? If one has influence, whether it is via position, association, financial clout etc., there is no impetus to organise ostentatious displays of dissent - it can be 'fixed' on the old boy or 'brown paper bag' network. With no such avenue available, public action becomes necessary. This has long been understood with such as Gandhi, Luther King and Mandela. Their activities all caused disruption to a greater or lesser extent but were, ultimately, the only way to achieve results. If you consider the regimes which were the root cause of these characters rebelling, you might wish to consider, also, the root cause of these present outbursts ... or not, as the majority of the previous posts would indicate.
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