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Old 28th Feb 2021, 17:26
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New versions of old films

This may have been on here before. and if so sorry but I am bored. I am now back in the UK as of yesterday, and in quarantine at home, as is my wife due to obvious close contact, so watched an old movie the Thomas Crown Affair, and later the Pierce Brosnan remake. I have to say the remake was so much better in my opinion. Along those lines had the misfortune to watch Dunkirk on a plane and Pearl Harbour (while on ANA ) and they were awful. So over to you lot, any thoughts on this or other films ?

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Old 28th Feb 2021, 17:30
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I haven't seen the remake, but I do enjoy the original Thomas Crown Affair.

The remakes of Get Carter and The Italian Job were both dire. How about coming up with summat original you overpaid Hollywood types?

Pearl Harbour was crap too - I watched snatches of it and as I recall, the Japanese raid looked like some sped up kiddies computer game...
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Old 28th Feb 2021, 17:32
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Practically any film that's made for cinema release looks cr*p on a seatback screen.

Of course, some look just as bad in the cinema.
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Old 28th Feb 2021, 17:49
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Try watching the 1965 and 2004 versions of Flight of the Phoenix for contrasts between gritty character realism and shallow stereotypes basking in Hollywood special effects.
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I don't know why the producers feel they have to remake on the big screen,when an original,definitive,version on the TV has been superlative.I cite two example,namely 'Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy',and 'Brideshead Revisited'.In my opinion,neither of these,however much Hollywood money is thrown at them,could be bettered,and I was certainly disappointed at the cinema version.Not quite the same thing,but I also felt that the last episode of 'Downton Abbey',though made for,and shown on a cinema screen was not half as good as the small screen series where story-lines could be developed over weeks.
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Old 28th Feb 2021, 18:19
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A couple of remakes that I thought were better than the originals were 3:10 to Yuma and Cape Fear.
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Old 28th Feb 2021, 18:20
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The remake of Ghostbusters, with all the gender roles reversed, could only hold my attention for 5 minutes.

Not a re-make, but there is some stupid Yank TV series where women are the main characters at a fire station, and the men are all stupid, making ridiculous decisions which the much wiser women have to over-rule. Waste of hyperspace.
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Old 28th Feb 2021, 19:16
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Oceans 11 didn't need a remake
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Neither did the Italian Job.....
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We have three versions of the 39 Steps recorded. When I have read the book I'll see whether the pictures are better on the radio (alright in text).

In the meantime, there is Around the World in 80 Days, when I've read the book.

The Railway Children first film version (1970) was the best. I was 11 when I first saw it in 1970, Jenny Agutter did it for me being just a few years older than me...........

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Old 28th Feb 2021, 20:44
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Originally Posted by rans6andrew View Post
Jenny Agutter did it for me being just a few years older than me...
I've been in love with her ever since. I've stood on that platform...
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Old 28th Feb 2021, 20:52
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Originally Posted by treadigraph View Post
I've been in love with her ever since. I've stood on that platform...
Any idea on when the remake of Deep Throat will be released? Not sure who is in the starring role, but I suspect the budget will be a lot more than the original.
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Lack of creativity in Hollywood. Easier to remake something than do something original? Even Disney are at it now!!
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The original British version of Bedazzled, with Peter Cook and Dudley Moore was brilliant in concept and execution. Cameos by Barry Humphries and Raquel Welch cleverly done. The yank remake with Brendan Fraser was a dismal flop in comparison. And no t1ts, either.
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Old 1st Mar 2021, 04:31
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Neither did the Italian Job.....
I think you'll find that the original version of the Italian Job doesn't work well outside of the UK. Quite frankly, a lot of the humor simply doesn't work on this side of the pond.
And while the original Oceans 11 is a very good movie, the remake really works well although on a different level - I rather like the 'happy ending' of the remake.

OTOH, who ever decided it was a good idea to try to remake "Ben-Hur"? Take one of the greatest movies of all time, and remake it as politically correct garbage?
The only redeeming part of my watching the 2016 remake of Ben-Hur is that I watched it while on an airplane so it didn't cost me anything - had I paid to watch it I'd have been seriously pissed.
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There’s a ‘reimagining’ of the Wizard of Oz coming up.
https://www.google.co.jp/amp/s/varie...234904194/amp/
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I thought the second Thomas Crown Affair was quite good but the new Dunkirk was simply awful.

The mention of The Railway Children reminded me of the two versions of Swallows and Amazons. The first one (1974) was well done and stuck fairly closely to Arthur Ransome's book. The new one (2017) had a revised plot that was barely recognizable - Russians and secret agents???

Let's hope no-one ever decides to remake Lawrence of Arabia!

Jenny Agutter did it for me being just a few years older than me...........
For me, it was seeing Jenny in Logan's Run.
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One of my favourite movies, "Inherit the Wind", was remade twice. The first remake wasn't bad at all in my opinion but it was done back in 1988 starring Kirk Douglas. I watched it recently and thought it was OK, but nowhere near as good as the original. Apparently, there was another TV movie remake in 1999 starring Jack Lemmon, but I haven't seen it. I can't recall any remake of a movie being better than the original. Obviously, the effects are better now but the script is usually much worse.
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Easy comparisons would be the subliminal messages built into versions of the Titanic tragedy, or Pearl Harbor.

Some stories are so compelling that they beg for retelling, again and again.
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Quite suprised no one has mentioned The Wicker Man, the less said about the remake the better.
Or even the Pink Panther!

Oceans 11, I love the orginal, but the story behind the making of it, there are lots of books about Sinatra and his ties to the mob, is facinating. The remake is pretty good, very modern, you have to remeber Vegas is a completly different place since the FBI removed the Chicago Mob in the 80's. Now lets hope they don't remake Robin and the Seven Hood

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