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Old 4th Feb 2021, 10:44
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Originally Posted by waldopepper42 View Post
I just did the same thing for my wife's new PCP car. I handed the retention certificate to the dealer, and the new car was resplendent with the new plate on the forecourt when we went to collect. V5C has just arrived with the new reg. as well.
Very helpful, but what happens when you want to get rid of the car later on if the only plate it has had is the one you’ve given the dealer now?
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Old 4th Feb 2021, 10:49
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Originally Posted by VP959 View Post
I've had a personalised plate for around 30 years now, and see absolutely nothing different between personalising a car like this and adding any other personal touches some make to their cars, from putting their favourite charity sticker in the window to giving it a custom paint job. Some get really wound up about personal plates, though, no idea why. Mine was free, got it in exchange for doing some paperwork for a colleague. Main advantage as I get older is that it's a lot easier to remember the registration number when it's needed for insurance or one of those car park ticket machines that needs it.
I suspect it's because someone having a personalized number plate is telling others you have the money to do that - look at me, I have money. Putting a charity sticker on a car doesn't cost a lot of money if any and a paint job doesn't tell everyone "hey, look at me!" unless it's some ridiculous paint scheme. If the latter, most will probably think the driver is an idiot. As for remembering your license plate number, why not write it down on a small piece of paper and keep it in your wallet/pocket/purse/handbag or whatever? I'm not aware of any law anywhere that requires you to remember your license plate number.
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Old 4th Feb 2021, 10:51
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Originally Posted by yellowtriumph View Post
Very helpful, but what happens when you want to get rid of the car later on if the only plate it has had is the one you’ve given the dealer now?
I think you just put the plate back on retention and DVLA will assign a new number. Admittedly, this is the first brand new car I've put the plate on but previously the original number was reassigned and a new V5C sent in the post.
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Old 4th Feb 2021, 10:55
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Originally Posted by yellowtriumph View Post
Perhaps you are referring to number plates where people have altered the character spacing or position fixing screws in different colours or spacings to effect some sort of personalisation? The plate I hope to get would be ‘normal’ in all respects and I would see no reason for any ANPR to not recognise it.
No, my plate was originally issued in the 1930's, I think, so is in the format two letters, followed by a space, then four digits. The Southampton car park ANPR always tries to force it into the format three letters followed by three digits, so misreads the first digit as a letter and ignores the space.

It's a consistent problem, not unique to that particular ANPR system, as I've also had it happen at a supermarket car park where there was a requirement to type the registration into a machine after entry, with the barrier being lifted on departure using ANPR.
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Old 4th Feb 2021, 10:56
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Originally Posted by yellowtriumph View Post
How does your post help with my query?
It doesn't..it's just a view as to the psychology applicable to personalised number plates.
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Old 4th Feb 2021, 11:02
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Originally Posted by Hokulea View Post
I suspect it's because someone having a personalized number plate is telling others you have the money to do that - look at me, I have money. Putting a charity sticker on a car doesn't cost a lot of money if any and a paint job doesn't tell everyone "hey, look at me!" unless it's some ridiculous paint scheme. If the latter, most will probably think the driver is an idiot. As for remembering your license plate number, why not write it down on a small piece of paper and keep it in your wallet/pocket/purse/handbag or whatever? I'm not aware of any law anywhere that requires you to remember your license plate number.

You may be right. I got my plate by accident, a driver at work was taking me to the airport early one morning, and during the drive we were chatting about his hobby of restoring pre-war cars. He'd sold a Morris to an American and was complaining about all the export paperwork he had to do. In passing, he mentioned that the car had my initials on the number plate. I offered to sort out all the paperwork for him if he'd let me buy the plate. He didn't want anything for the plate, just wanted the paperwork sorted.

There's no law about needing to remember it, but it seems that hotels, car park machines etc often need to know it, so something that's very easy to remember seems less hassle than having it written down on a bit of paper.
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Old 4th Feb 2021, 11:08
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Originally Posted by yellowtriumph View Post
Very helpful, but what happens when you want to get rid of the car later on if the only plate it has had is the one you’ve given the dealer now?

All new cars get a registration number assigned, even if it isn't used at first registration. It's colloquially known as the shadow number, and much the same applies to military vehicles - they may have military registrations displayed, but they also have a civilian shadow number on the DVLA system, and that shadow number usually gets re-allocated to the vehicle if it's sold by MoD.

All that happens when you sell a car with a private plate is that you put the private plate on retention first (takes fine minutes online), pay the retention fee (was £80 last time I did it) and you immediately get a printable certificate showing the shadow registration that can be used as authorisation to get new plates made up prior to sale. Swap the plates over and then call your insurance company to let them know the change of registration. I believe that the VED registration is changed automatically by DVLA as a part of the process now.

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Old 4th Feb 2021, 11:14
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There's no law about needing to remember it, but it seems that hotels, car park machines etc often need to know it, so something that's very easy to remember seems less hassle than having it written down on a bit of paper.
I understand this. As I get older things are becoming harder to remember. I have a code to get into my office and it hasn't changed for 25 years, but every so often I suddenly think, do I remember the code? About 99.9% of the time I do, but because I'm aging I have the code in my wallet but it's written on a piece of paper in a way that if anyone steals my wallet the code means nothing to them. When I get to the age of looking at that piece of paper and I can't figure out what I meant, it's time to retire!

PS. I do have to give my car's license plate number at most hotels, but 1) most of the time they are rentals so the key comes with all that info and 2) with COVID, I haven't visited a hotel in a year. On the other hand, With example (1), I either forget to bring the car keys with me when checking in or forget to bring my reading glasses so I can't read the license anyway.

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Old 4th Feb 2021, 11:39
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Once when I first started working I needed a company vehicle to do an errand so I went to the fleet manager to pick up a car from the pool, and I kid you not, the only available vehicle at that very moment was the minister' s chauffeur driven luxury car. Oh how much fun it was to cruise downtown with the official Victorian state number plate of VIC 02 (the Premier had 01). It was like an invisible horn as people automatically got out of my way. Many years later I would purchase a new car without requesting any number plate and by pure luck scored a number plate that was even better than the minister's. The only difference was the letters were for another state, coincidently the state I was born in. How's that for not trying.

These kind of plates are easily remembered so one must always keep that in mind when being naughty. On the plus side no criminal looking to steal a set will touch them.
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Old 4th Feb 2021, 11:56
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These kind of plates are easily remembered so one must always keep that in mind when being naughty. On the plus side no criminal looking to steal a set will touch them.
Yes, it'd be like taking a selfie while carrying out a criminal act. No one would be stupid enough to do that. In particular, if....no, wait... let me revisit that.
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Old 4th Feb 2021, 12:24
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It’s easier to just change your name to match the number plate of your new car. My name is 1EHG-295 & I’m used to being called that now - amongst other things...
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Old 4th Feb 2021, 12:40
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Originally Posted by Hokulea View Post
I understand this. As I get older things are becoming harder to remember. I have a code to get into my office and it hasn't changed for 25 years, but every so often I suddenly think, do I remember the code?
I hate aging. Some bits are OK but most of it isn't.
I've got so used to not using my pin when buying things with credit card (contactless transaction raised to £45) that recently when the till decided to ask for a pin (apparently they are instructed to occasionally as a check by the issuing bank) my mind went completely blank... had to think for what seemed like several minutes - and I'd changed it over 25 years ago to a number that meant something to me ! Before Lockdown #2 I'd been buying coffee so often in Wetherspoons on their app, I'd committed the whole credit card number, renewal date and the other 3 digit number to memory... I'm usually really crap with numbers.

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Old 4th Feb 2021, 13:15
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post
It doesn't..it's just a view as to the psychology applicable to personalised number plates.
Equally, it could be said that some people just have a view as to the psychology applicable to making carnaptiouss posts.

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Old 4th Feb 2021, 13:33
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Originally Posted by Union Jack View Post
Equally, it could be said that some people just have a view as to the psychology applicable to making carnaptiouss posts.

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One really great thing about JB is that it sometimes provides the opportunity to learn a new word, like "carnaptious". Had me clicking for an online dictionary, to discover that it's a Scots dialect word meaning "ill-tempered or cantankerous".

Sadly, I think that the lumpenproletariat will always look for ways to try and illustrate that others are not like them, which is, in its way, a form of the very elitism that they so despise. Not sure either Marx or Engels would have approved of this principle of making the lumpenproletariat themselves into some form of elite, with their stance being that others are of lesser worth because of the different views they hold, the different luck they've had in life, or the different level of ability they have been born with.
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Old 4th Feb 2021, 14:07
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One really great thing about JB is that it sometimes provides the opportunity to learn a new word, like "carnaptious". Had me clicking for an online dictionary, to discover that it's a Scots dialect word meaning "ill-tempered or cantankerous".

Sadly, I think that the lumpenproletariat will always look for ways to try and illustrate that others are not like them, which is, in its way, a form of the very elitism that they so despise. Not sure either Marx or Engels would have approved of this principle of making the lumpenproletariat themselves into some form of elite, with their stance being that others are of lesser worth because of the different views they hold, the different luck they've had in life, or the different level of ability they have been born with.
In a word, fandabidozi!

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Old 4th Feb 2021, 16:15
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As posted earlier, it would not be obvious to anyone that it was a personalised plate.
Then what's the point?
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Old 4th Feb 2021, 16:26
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Then what's the point?
The proposed new plate complements one I have on a car I own. Whilst the personalisation would mean nothing to the average person in the street looking at it, it does mean something to us. Not everyone gets a personalised plate to make some kind of point to the public, despite what some on here believe.
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Old 4th Feb 2021, 16:38
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One really great thing about JB is that it sometimes provides the opportunity to learn a new word, like "carnaptious". Had me clicking for an online dictionary, to discover that it's a Scots dialect word meaning "ill-tempered or cantankerous".

Sadly, I think that the lumpenproletariat will always look for ways to try and illustrate that others are not like them, which is, in its way, a form of the very elitism that they so despise. Not sure either Marx or Engels would have approved of this principle of making the lumpenproletariat themselves into some form of elite, with their stance being that others are of lesser worth because of the different views they hold, the different luck they've had in life, or the different level of ability they have been born with.
I just see personalised number plates as being synonymous with this condition, one which is well established, routinely chronicled and infinite when it comes to expansion. For example, Social media can be a haven for them in this respect given, like personalised plates, it offers them the public exposure they crave. .

Narcissists’ Greatest Fears | Psychology Today

Met numerous over the years.

Family owned firm I used to work, briefly, for all had them..father had photo of himself and "Simply the Best" above his desk, son reckoned he could go from Disley to Nottingham in 45 mins in his Subaru.....I said this was pure bollocks....he got very upset. Father also got upset when he opined I could drive 520 miles, at night, in 10hrs, without a break....I suggested the Traffic Commissioner's might be interested in his theory. All the vans had personalised plates as well.

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Old 4th Feb 2021, 16:44
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"The proposed new plate complements one I have on a car I own"

Now I get it: M ICKY and M INI
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Old 4th Feb 2021, 17:25
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I hate aging. Some bits are OK but most of it isn't.
Totally agree, but beats the hell out of the alternative.
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