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Old 28th Dec 2020, 11:11
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For most people in the USSR, the happiest time was when Brezhnev was in power.
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Old 28th Dec 2020, 13:30
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Dear usedtobeATC.
The happiest time for Brezhnev was his time as "Top Dog" of the USSR.
A committed and secret "Motor-head" was presented a gift of a Mercedes
450 SLC sports car by Willy Brandt. Mrs Brezhnev received a 12 piece
dinner service. The car never left the FRG, as he wrote it off on a test
drive down the narrow road from hotel Petersberg in Koenigswinter.
Brezhnev had a LARGE collection of Western cars given to him by
Western leaders which were driven his own private track away from
public view. One of his favourite model's was the Lincoln Continental
which he had Russian designers copy, and produce the ZIL.
The famous kiss between Brezhnev and Honecker was for me "Priceless"
and a sign of the end of corruption, misuse of power, and needless deaths.
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Old 28th Dec 2020, 14:08
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Was the Soviet Embassy 1955 - 1975 in the former Hotel Groyen at Rolandseck
am Rhein an act of "Tit for Tat" after Blake revealed the secrets of the British and
U.S. Listening post in East Berlin ? After the announcement of Bonn becoming
the provisional capital of Western Germany, both the French and Soviets decided
to establish their embassies in the area of Remagen rather than "Bundesdorf" Bonn.
The French in opulent palace like setting, and the Soviets in a former hotel on the
B9 road next to the river Rhine at Rolandseck. The St Laurentius Church graveyard
within walking distance holds the remains of Luftwaffe flying ace Adolf Galland.
Across the Rhine on the opposite bank is the village of Unkel where Willy Brandt
lived, and died, and Konrad Adenauer lived for some time.
The Soviets would move out of their former hotel "Bolt Hole" for a new embassy in
Bonn, and leave the property to another communist regime in the Far East, before
the property being sold on as apartments. I was living a little further south in the
early 1980's when the Oriental occupants where still in residence, and remember a
story of a German company being denied entry after the Rhine had burst its banks
and flooded part of the building. Rumours were that the telephone cables linking
Bonn to the South went through the cellar of the former Soviet Embassy.
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Old 28th Dec 2020, 14:43
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George D. Huss U.S. Ambassador to Bonn bought Beechcraft Bonanza "V" tail
D-EHEX in 1980, and re registered it N222VH. It was damaged on landing at
Siegerland, Switzerland in 1986, The aircraft had an unusual name. "Der Dicke"
or "The Fat One" The name given to Herman Goering ("Der Dicke Herman")
during WW2. D-EHEX was owned by Adolf Galland before selling it in 1980.
Galland was a good friend of Sir Douglas Bader after WW2, and authorised
the RAF to drop Bader replacement legs when shot down near St. Omer during
WW2.
I am not sure where Herr Galland's Bonanza was based ? Possibly CGN ?

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Old 28th Dec 2020, 15:42
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As he lived south of Bonn with an office in Bonn the airport at Sankt Augustin, Bonn-Hangelar, seems to be more likely.
Some busy general aviation and helicopter airfield.

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Old 28th Dec 2020, 20:41
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Originally Posted by Cornish Jack View Post
Wish we'd got to him with a blow torch and pair of pliers before he spouted.
Interesting perspective - probably need to join 'the other side' to enjoy such sport though!
Aaah, bless. . . keep thinking those happy thoughts.
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Old 28th Dec 2020, 21:01
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Dear Less Hair,
Thanks for the BNJ suggestion, I feel sure this
is correct. only 23 minutes drive from Bonn.
I flew a Cessna 172 a couple of times out of
Winningen, but that was 40+ minutes from Bonn.
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Old 28th Dec 2020, 22:14
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I find it extremely frustrating that since ‘the end of communism’ in the rump of the USSR given the attitude of the current incumbent it doesn’t seem at all likely that we will ever know the true cost of the [email protected] treachery.
Hope he doesn’t enjoy the fire and brimstone too much !
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Old 28th Dec 2020, 22:17
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Originally Posted by Lance Shippey View Post
Was the Soviet Embassy 1955 - 1975 in the former Hotel Groyen at Rolandseck

Rumours were that the telephone cables linking
Bonn to the South went through the cellar of the former Soviet Embassy.
Lance Shippey

Care to source those rumours , or leave them as unsubstantiated flim-flam ?
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Old 28th Dec 2020, 22:33
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This is the historic building.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainze...11;30_2014.jpg




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Old 29th Dec 2020, 03:12
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I would pass the building every Tuesday 1980-1984 on the way to Bonn
It was my driver that pointed out that the building was the Soviet Embassy,
and now taken over by a "Red" embassy. The couple of black cars parked
outside in the late afternoon had diplo plates. German diplo plates start
with O-then 2 numbers which refers to the embassy - then a further 2 numbers.
so O-??-?? and on occasion I saw Oriental gentlemen alight their cars.
I describe the telephone cable as rumour, as the story was told to me by
two different people. You may consider it "Flim-flam"
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Old 29th Dec 2020, 04:30
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You may be interested in reading the diary of the Remagen Fire Department.
1982 March 31st. Deployment in the former Russian Enbassy.
"Carbon monoxide gasses kill two people"
1983 10-18 April Flood relief
1983 27-31 May Flood relief
Search Ow-Geschichte-Feuerwehr Stadt Remagen
stroll down to 1982 and 1983.
It was 1983 I was given the Flim-Flam.
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Old 29th Dec 2020, 16:21
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Peter Wright was, of course, utterly beyond the pale
Naturally! He was an engineer and not a historian or classicist unlike the traitors were in spite of degree from Oxford!
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Old 30th Dec 2020, 07:43
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Which Oxford, or indeed Cambridge, classicist was a traitor?
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Old 30th Dec 2020, 10:02
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and the 'Fifth Man' remains to be defined.
Thought that the 'five' were Burgess, Maclean, Philby, Blunt and Cairncross.
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Old 30th Dec 2020, 11:54
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Thought that the 'five' were Burgess, Maclean, Philby, Blunt and Cairncross.
See OED definition of 'defined'
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Old 30th Dec 2020, 12:15
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See OED definition of 'defined'
I don't have one handy and I couldn't be bothered googling or whatever, so suppose you educate me, as you are obviously far more intelligent, seeing as you wish to be so precise.
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Old 30th Dec 2020, 13:02
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So where will he be buried? Would be interesting to know if he had wanted to return his remains to the UK if that option existed?
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Old 30th Dec 2020, 13:43
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Quite co-incidentally, m'lady had a chat with one of her old friends who was 'peripherally involved' and suffered 'collateral damage' when the story broke. Fascinating insights and the re-realisation that times have changed ... but not by much!
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Apparently he's 'settled' for burial in Russia with full military honours according to the Telegraph ...
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