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RIP Jack Charlton 1935-2020

Old 11th Jul 2020, 18:55
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RIP Jack Charlton 1935-2020

RIP Jack Charlton 1935-2020

John Charlton OBE DL (8 May 193510 July 2020) was an English footballer and manager who played as a defender. He was part of the England team that won the 1966 World Cup.

"They think it's all over ..... It is now!"

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Here in Ireland, Charlton is basically credited with putting the national team on the map, so to speak, so his death is big news here. In the 1990 World Cup in Italy, the team met Pope John Paul II, who had been a goalie when he was younger. After Bonner's goalkeeping slip-up meant they lost to Italy in the knockout stage, Charlton told Bonner "the f***ing Pope would have saved that"!
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Taking nothing away from Charlton's achievements with RoI, but he was somewhat fortunate with the group of players he had at his disposal - the squads for the 88 and 90 finals included:
Packie Bonner
Chris Hughton
Mick McCarthy
David O'Leary
Steve Staunton
Kevin Moran
Ronnie Whelan
Paul McGrath
Ray Houghton
Andy Townsend
John Aldridge
Frank Stapleton
Kevin Sheedy
Niall Quinn

Liam Brady was unavailable for the finals buy played in most of the qualifiers for Italia 90.

Not a bad group to work with.

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Originally Posted by Saab Dastard View Post
Taking nothing away from Charlton's achievements with RoI, but he was somewhat fortunate with the group of players he had at his disposal - the squads for the 88 and 90 finals included:
Packie Bonner
Chris Hughton
Mick McCarthy
David O'Leary
Steve Staunton
Kevin Moran
Ronnie Whelan
Paul McGrath
Ray Houghton
Andy Townsend
John Aldridge
Frank Stapleton
Kevin Sheedy
Niall Quinn

Liam Brady was unavailable for the finals buy played in most of the qualifiers for Italia 90.

Not a bad group to work with.

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Very true, but Charlton widened the pool of players with careful research of grandparents’ nationality, thus increasing it’s size. I don’t know how many on that list came into that category.
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Absolutely - Mick McCarthy, TonyCascarino, Chris Morris, Ray Houghton and John Aldridge fall into that category.

I'm Irish myself, and delighted with what Jack Charlton achieved for Ireland, but there's no doubt that the players available to him at that time were overall of a greater calibre than those available, say, to Martin O'Neill more recently, given the same ability to recruit non-Irish born players via parents / grandparents.
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I can only just forgive him for scoring a clearly offside goal deep in to injury time at home against Arsenal in April 1971. Leeds thought they would win the league following that.
I was living in Leeds then, but was a very keen Arsenal fan. Naturally, I was there.

Naturally, I was also there at the Spuds ground a few days later, when we beat the Spuds, and claimed the League title. Leeds came 2nd. The journey in my 1954 Morris Minor back to Leeds was great! Scarf out the window, and etc. 3 circuits of City Sq in the early hours, scarf out and horn on firmly.

Then, 5 days later, the Moggie took me down to Wemberlee for us to win the Double.

In the Uni Library bogs in Leeds, the Brotherton, a wag wrote "If there was a competition for the unluckiest team in Britain, Leeds would come second"

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but was a very keen Arsenal fan
Surely all Arsenal fans are banned from posting on PPRuNe! (Rule 47(d)(ii)).

Ah . . . Elland Road in the Revie era . . . 'Tiny' Jack Charlton . . . 'Delicate' Norman Hunter . . . 'Safe Hands' Gary Sprake &c.

The home crowd chant in late '66: 'Ba . . . ba . . . ba, ba, ba . . . ba . . . ba . . . Bremner!' (to the tune of the Troggs' 'I Can't Control Myself'.

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Originally Posted by Discorde View Post
Surely all Arsenal fans are banned from posting on PPRuNe! (Rule 47(d)(ii)).

Ah . . . Elland Road in the Revie era . . . 'Tiny' Jack Charlton . . . 'Delicate' Norman Hunter . . . 'Safe Hands' Gary Sprake &c.

The home crowd chant in late '66: 'Ba . . . ba . . . ba, ba, ba . . . ba . . . ba . . . Bremner!' (to the tune of the Troggs' 'I Can't Control Myself'.
Arsenal fans? Nah, that rule was modified such that they could post providing there was a clear statement of apology ( all excuses having long since been exhausted).
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