Ghislaine Maxwell arrested by FBI
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Is it normal for victims of trafficking to have mobile phones and boast to their friends over what they claim to have done ? It also seems odd that this "prisoner" was taken to a nightclub where I presume you could simply walk out the door. We're not talking about some seedy backstreet dive where the doors are locked but a world famous London venue which has cameras everywhere.
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Originally Posted by B Fraser
Is it normal for victims of trafficking to have mobile phones and boast to their friends over what they claim to have done ? It also seems odd that this "prisoner" was taken to a nightclub where I presume you could simply walk out the door. We're not talking about some seedy backstreet dive where the doors are locked but a world famous London venue which has cameras everywhere.
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Originally Posted by B Fraser
Is it normal for victims of trafficking to have mobile phones and boast to their friends over what they claim to have done ? It also seems odd that this "prisoner" was taken to a nightclub where I presume you could simply walk out the door.
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Originally Posted by B Fraser
Is it normal for victims of trafficking to have mobile phones and boast to their friends over what they claim to have done ? It also seems odd that this "prisoner" was taken to a nightclub where I presume you could simply walk out the door. We're not talking about some seedy backstreet dive where the doors are locked but a world famous London venue which has cameras everywhere.
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Strangely, the contents of this glowing text seem to have eluded his legal team, the Palace and the judge in question.
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Originally Posted by B Fraser
Is it normal for victims of trafficking to have mobile phones and boast to their friends over what they claim to have done ? It also seems odd that this "prisoner" was taken to a nightclub where I presume you could simply walk out the door. We're not talking about some seedy backstreet dive where the doors are locked but a world famous London venue which has cameras everywhere.
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Originally Posted by B Fraser
I rather doubt any of those (much younger) victims were texting their friends, boasting about it.
new research suggests Mary, mother of Jesus may not actually have been a virgin 😮 Mainstream news ignores crucial byline for 2000 years 😮😮News stands filled with rotting newspapers despite desperate attempts to drum up counter-protest because…….nobody cares about the girl, they care about a sleazy Prince and nasty spoilt manipulative grooming shits.
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Originally Posted by B Fraser
I rather doubt any of those (much younger) victims were texting their friends, boasting about it.
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Originally Posted by Ninthace
I would be less certain, Grooming is an insidious process whereby the victims are made to feel special and girls will share,
strange how she is only going after the most high profile person. The one who will not go to court. Only one senior Royal in over 120 years has ever been in court and that was over a minor dog attack case. She knows full well he or any other senior Royal will not testify so will be forced to settle, This is a civil not criminal case. So she can play the media in the uk. There is no way this would ever go to trial as a criminal matter. Lack of evidence and what crime was committed given she was over the age of consent. She is not saying she was raped. She was saying it was Epstein that forced her as she was trafficked. Did Andrew know this.
she is almost as bad as Epstein and maxwell. If this was about justice, there would be a long list of names of all the men who slept with her. Ask yourself why there isn’t. Or are we to believe only Andrew slept with her.
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Originally Posted by Foxxster
Ask yourself why there isn’t. Or are we to believe only Andrew slept with her.
I am no fan of the man in question but i am deeply uncomfortable about what the implications of this process are for justice and the presumption of innocence going forwards.
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Foxxster and OvertHawk,
I agree with your thoughts. I wonder if he could ignore the US court case: what could they do? Award damages? So if those aren't paid? Provided Andy doesn't leave the UK. he should be relatively safe. He might even declare bankruptcy after moving money around....and maybe the sum she is claiming could indeed make him bankrupt.
I agree with your thoughts. I wonder if he could ignore the US court case: what could they do? Award damages? So if those aren't paid? Provided Andy doesn't leave the UK. he should be relatively safe. He might even declare bankruptcy after moving money around....and maybe the sum she is claiming could indeed make him bankrupt.
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Originally Posted by radeng
I wonder if he could ignore the US court case: what could they do? Award damages? So if those aren't paid? Provided Andy doesn't leave the UK. he should be relatively safe.
But if we thought his reputation was in tatters already, it would be infinitely worse once he's walking around with that judgment over his head.
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Originally Posted by OvertHawk
I am no fan of the man in question but i am deeply uncomfortable about what the implications of this process are for justice and the presumption of innocence going forwards.
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For all those tacitly defending Andrew, formerly HRH please note, you seem to have missed the reaction from the Palace.
Protecting brand Windsor is something they have a lot of experience and expertise in doing over the years. We obviously don't know the intimate details, no pun intended, but, when the reaction to the alleged events is so ruthless, then it's apparent that what may emerge is going to be very repugnant in the eyes of many.
And lets not forget a certain interview, one he was reportedly strongly advised by professionals not to participate in, yet chose to ignore, and by doing so opened himself up to deeper and more public scrutiny as a result.
Protecting brand Windsor is something they have a lot of experience and expertise in doing over the years. We obviously don't know the intimate details, no pun intended, but, when the reaction to the alleged events is so ruthless, then it's apparent that what may emerge is going to be very repugnant in the eyes of many.
And lets not forget a certain interview, one he was reportedly strongly advised by professionals not to participate in, yet chose to ignore, and by doing so opened himself up to deeper and more public scrutiny as a result.
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It's not uncommon for young ladies (above and below age of consent) to share opportunities involving generous men. Travel, luxurious accommodations, baubles... can be powerful inducements.
Some of these men are not careful enough about age verification in the recent legal climate in certain jurisdictions which can come down hard on those indulging themselves with the underage.
A biography of Prince Philip noted that he attended a number of country house parties where female companionship would be supplied if you weren't bringing your own. The apple did not fall far from the tree.
Some of these men are not careful enough about age verification in the recent legal climate in certain jurisdictions which can come down hard on those indulging themselves with the underage.
A biography of Prince Philip noted that he attended a number of country house parties where female companionship would be supplied if you weren't bringing your own. The apple did not fall far from the tree.
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Originally Posted by RatherBeFlying
A biography of Prince Philip noted that he attended a number of country house parties where female companionship would be supplied if you weren't bringing your own. The apple did not fall far from the tree.
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Tartiflette
I suspect the women may not have been under age, but "available" as RatherBeFlying sort of insinuated from the biography of Prince Phillip he had read.
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I suspect the women may not have been under age, but "available" as RatherBeFlying sort of insinuated from the biography of Prince Phillip he had read.
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Allegations Against Heath
In 2017, following a two year investigation on the part of the British police, allegations of sexual misconduct and sexual assault surfaced against Heath. Of the 42 allegations, police at the time said that seven of the claims, including five accounts of sexual assault against boys as young as 10, were serious enough to have warranted Heath being questioned, had he been alive at the time. According to reports, the allegations covered a time period of nearly forty years, beginning in 1956 to 1992.
In 2017, following a two year investigation on the part of the British police, allegations of sexual misconduct and sexual assault surfaced against Heath. Of the 42 allegations, police at the time said that seven of the claims, including five accounts of sexual assault against boys as young as 10, were serious enough to have warranted Heath being questioned, had he been alive at the time. According to reports, the allegations covered a time period of nearly forty years, beginning in 1956 to 1992.
