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Old 7th Aug 2020, 20:56
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Originally Posted by Gipsy Queen View Post
I would not want to enter today's politics which are no less a snake pit than has always been the case, but it seems that the quality of those presenting themselves as fit to govern us has never been of a lower standard.
I think that is a major problem--those most qualified to represent us want nothing to do with the political process!
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Old 7th Aug 2020, 20:57
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Originally Posted by Turbine D View Post
obgraham, I think you are in uncharted waters relative to this current subject and its history in American politics.

From a social and political perspective, the southern caste system grew out of the need to maintain a void between the people of African decent and the rest of society. Contrary to some beliefs, only a small minority of the white population owned slaves, but the whole system was based on a well-ordered society, with well-defined classes where members of each group--including the non-slaveholding farmers, the business and professional men, the yeoman farmers, the freed Africans, and the slaves--knew their place. James Ezell, a renown scholar of the South, notes that the South is really a state of mind. It is as much cultural and political as geographic and climatic (Ezell, 1963).

Linking Identity to Politics

Donald Trump' and his campaign was quick to attack Biden over his NAHJ/NABJ interview, saying it diminished the diversity of opinions among Black voters and calling it an example of "condescending white liberal racism.” Trump should know all about white racial racism, liberal or not, as he has personally practiced it for 50 years, e.g., "There are good white supremacists” according to Trump after Charlottesville, evidence of decisions he made during his life. However, it does illustrate how little Trump and his team know about African American political attitudes in America and how they developed which conflicts with your opinion.

Group consciousness is a critical explanatory variable of African American political attitudes and behavior. Group consciousness is a resource that generates political activity through an individual’s attachment to a group. Racial group consciousness potentially heightens awareness and interest in politics, bolsters group pride and political efficacy, alters interpretation of group problems, and promotes support for collective action.The psychological process that triggers these behaviors is known as the “black utility heuristic. African Americans have developed this heuristic—or mental rule of thumb—and employ it when making political decisions

If you happen to think for one moment the BLM movement isn’t going to have a political effect come November 3, think again...
Glad you know how to use a search engine TD. It’s customary to cite others work when using it rather than passing it off as your own, in this case I’m sure Politico would be appreciate it.

Or was it just an accident?
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Old 7th Aug 2020, 21:50
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Originally Posted by West Coast View Post
Glad you know how to use a search engine TD. It’s customary to cite others work when using it rather than passing it off as your own, in this case I’m sure Politico would be appreciate it. Or was it just an accident?
West Coast, I am not playing your game of "name your source" that you play when you have nothing to contribute... Go find someone else to play your game...
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Old 7th Aug 2020, 21:55
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Originally Posted by obgraham View Post
TD I really don't know what you are on about there, as I am not a sociologist, but just a dumb Conservative.
I agree...
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Old 7th Aug 2020, 22:23
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Originally Posted by Turbine D View Post
I agree...
He said it.
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Old 8th Aug 2020, 02:03
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Originally Posted by Hokulea View Post
And to have some question Biden's intellectual capacity and ignore the far more worrying inability of Trump to understand the current pandemic crisis in the US ("it will just go away, we're in control) and an inability to even read something and pronounce a name every American knows, "Yosemite". is really troubling. He can't even get Tik Tok right, he called it tic tac and boasts about passing a cognitive test that includes identifying an elephant.
Luckily Fox News has identified his mental brilliance now. I guess Trump will be a shoo-in for either the 220 or 20014 elections:

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Old 8th Aug 2020, 12:51
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Originally Posted by obgraham View Post
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But, whatever. Violence has always been supported by a significant sector of the population too lily-livered to actually participate in it.
Reminds me of President "Bone Spurs" and his threats to use "his" military. Or should I call him Yosemite Sam?
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Old 8th Aug 2020, 13:23
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Originally Posted by Crabman View Post
Or should I call him Yosemite Sam?
Yous might as well.
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Old 8th Aug 2020, 14:52
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Originally Posted by dr dre View Post
Luckily Fox News has identified his mental brilliance now. I guess Trump will be a shoo-in for either the 220 or 20014 elections:

Fox News is onto something here... he is NOT okay
Sounds like he never reads the words aloud before hi public attempts. Maybe he has no mirrors to project towards.
He also tends to go off script more than he reads and even that is un-practiced and not like hitler used to do. Obviously he is too sure of his magnaminous ability to project.

Crimney we have much better ad-hoc speakers who can communicate even when wrong.. He can't even do it even when he is right.

No I am not picking a winner for the next election. It seems like Biden just talks in neutral. I would much rather see a president lay out His plan for the next 100 days.

But me, I'm going to vote for a new congress and any independants
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Old 8th Aug 2020, 15:02
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“But me, I'm going to vote for a new congress and any independents“

Wouldn’t that be nice if the vast majority did just that, send a message, work together or else.
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Old 8th Aug 2020, 16:35
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The one that got me last week was Trump referring to 2 "beautiful" World Wars...he didnt mention Vietnam, but then with his suffering from bone spurs, he must have felt so excluded from doing his bit. in that one, so it wasnt "beautiful"
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Old 8th Aug 2020, 16:42
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Conservatives do seem to be racking up the unforced errors:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...ne-call-392688

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...versity-392607

...and not necessarily her fault, but of interest to West Coast.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...rtarian-392698
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Old 8th Aug 2020, 17:05
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Conservatives do seem to be racking up the unforced errors:
Well it's not all one sided. Here for your viewing pleasure, Trump dealing with a reporter, who asked the type of question Biden would never be asked"
Then remind me again when Biden last held an actual, you know, "press conference".


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Old 8th Aug 2020, 18:08
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Originally Posted by pattern_is_full View Post
Conservatives do seem to be racking up the unforced errors:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...ne-call-392688

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...versity-392607

...and not necessarily her fault, but of interest to West Coast.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...rtarian-392698
As the old saying goes, good press, bad press, it doesnt matter just make sure you spell my name right.

News reports are that the critter was a Biden bat, known for its inappropriate contact with females.
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Old 8th Aug 2020, 18:36
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Originally Posted by fltlt View Post
“But me, I'm going to vote for a new congress and any independents“

Wouldn’t that be nice if the vast majority did just that, send a message, work together or else.
It would be a great thing, here in the UK also.
There has long been a belief that only the 2 main parties have the experience and ability to govern...........you mean their are people that could actualy do a worse job?...nah

Lets face it the defacto rulers of the planet have shown themselves to be self serving inadequates that only attain their lofty positions through the cronyism of the circle of Elites they inhabit (lots of people think Trump is different and is somehow a common man's man, laughable but thats what mass hysteria and poor education can do)

Time for a reset.
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Old 8th Aug 2020, 19:46
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Originally Posted by obgraham View Post
Then remind me again when Biden last held an actual, you know, "press conference".
Perhaps he took heed of Napoleon's advice. "Never interrupt an enemy when he is making mistakes."

Some might say Joe was there when he said it.

He's just Biden his time.
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Old 8th Aug 2020, 20:34
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Old 8th Aug 2020, 20:51
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OB and West Coast, just once can you honestly provide some evidence that Trump is not a self serving sociopath with only his enormous ego in control instead of throwing childish jibes at anyone suggesting such?
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Old 8th Aug 2020, 23:12
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Originally Posted by Slaine View Post
OB and West Coast, just once can you honestly provide some evidence that Trump is not a self serving sociopath with only his enormous ego in control instead of throwing childish jibes at anyone suggesting such?
Your post is on par with something Trump would say of someone he didn’t like. Distant relations with the Donald?
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Old 9th Aug 2020, 00:05
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I'll be happy to do that Slaine, when your side of this debating society stops using insulting terminology to refer to the President and anyone who finds satisfaction in his political agenda.

For a full 4 years, we've heard attack, namecalling, and vileness in almost every post rather than respectful criticism based on political differences. So now that the Dems have come up with an even more preposterous and ill-qualified candidate, I see no reason why I cannot use similar ridicule regarding their campaign. I note clearly that you and your likeminded sorts here can't handle it when the tables are turned. Tough -- deal with it.

Alternatively, man up and tell us all at least one positive reason a voter might have to support Biden. "He's not Trump" is no longer sufficient.
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