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Old 28th May 2020, 11:09
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No other president of the Hew Hess Hay has made such a total d1ck of himself on social meeja. Obama had grace, even Dubya only said dumb things out loud without writing them on a screen. This fool will be the end of you. What has he said about the riots and looting?
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Old 28th May 2020, 12:04
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Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie View Post
No other president of the Hew Hess Hay has made such a total d1ck of himself on social meeja. Obama had grace, even Dubya only said dumb things out loud without writing them on a screen. This fool will be the end of you. What has he said about the riots and looting?
I don't think he limits himself to social media, unless you consider TV one?
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Old 28th May 2020, 12:58
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Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie View Post
No other president of the Hew Hess Hay has made such a total d1ck of himself on social meeja. Obama had grace, even Dubya only said dumb things out loud without writing them on a screen. This fool will be the end of you. What has he said about the riots and looting?
I will take the “We have been in Afghanistan 19 years to no avail. Our troops are not policemen, bring them home”, over ineffectual grace.

Don't care what the name of the President is that said it, it’s the truth.
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Old 28th May 2020, 12:59
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Originally Posted by West Coast View Post
The firing seems appropriate as the former officer used unauthorized techniques. If the death is attributed to those unauthorized techniques (which would seem likely) then he should be tried and if found guilty spend a lot of time behind bars, not only to ponder his mistakes but to give pause to other cops.
Were they following the "moral leadership" of "the golfer in cheat"? ("Please don't be too nice to suspects" (Donald Trump, Speech to Law Enforcement Officers, July 2017))

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Old 28th May 2020, 13:01
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Originally Posted by Ancient Mariner View Post
I don't think he limits himself to social media, unless you consider TV one?
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Dismisses the threat of the virus and continues to bungle, prevaricate, attend rallies and play golf in Feb. One month of nothing. Thousands die.
Twitter fact checks his lies...executive order in two days.
Priorities.
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Old 28th May 2020, 15:48
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Originally Posted by fltlt View Post
I will take the “We have been in Afghanistan 19 years to no avail. Our troops are not policemen, bring them home”, over ineffectual grace.

Don't care what the name of the President is that said it, it’s the truth.
Except Trump has been in office for almost 4 years and has failed to bring the troops home in that time. In the intervening time he expanded the drone war in Afghanistan doing such things as killing pine nut farmers, let convicted war criminals out of prison and punishing those who brought them to justice, dropped the most amount of bombs in Afghanistan in any year since 2006 and tried to outsource the war to the criminal Blackwater mercenary group.

And he wants them home by Election Day, so he’s obviously doing it for political capital. If he was a serious peacemaker he would’ve done it as soon as making it into office in 2017.

Such a pacifist........

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Old 28th May 2020, 15:52
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Originally Posted by Crabman View Post
Were they following the "moral leadership" of "the golfer in cheat"? ("Please don't be too nice to suspects" (Donald Trump, Speech to Law Enforcement Officers, July 2017))
The beers in the Rose Garden really went a long way in helping, right?

Police do something wrong, it’s all on tape, let them investigate, prosecute and sentence.

Unfortunately the riots are all to often a cover for mass theft.
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Old 28th May 2020, 16:36
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Lets see....
Mohammed Noor (black cop in Minneapolis) kills Justine Diamond (white resident there)

Did the locals burn down their neighborhood and relieve the shops of televisions and sneakers? I don't recall.

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Old 28th May 2020, 17:06
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The decorous party of law and order. Apparently.

Trump Tweets Video Declaring That ‘The Only Good Democrat Is A Dead Democrat’

Just another one for the list.

The rhetoric and actions taken by the President - from continuing to berate the fourth estate by referring to the media as "the enemy of the people"[1] to calling his political opponents traitors[2] while he attacks the judicial branch of government[3] are just a few examples of his egregious attacks on democratic institutions and norms. President Trump has referred to the minority party as un-American simply for not applauding his speech.[4]

Here is a video compilation of President Trump openly inciting violence at public events.[5] For example following Saudi Arabia's assassination of Saudi journalist and U.S. resident Jamal Khashoggi in Turkey,[6] President Trump encouraged assaulting reporters and journalists at a rally in Montana.[7]

President Trump's praise for authoritarians;

President Trump has joked about wanting to consolidate his power like his dictator colleague in China, President Xi.[8] President Trump has repeatedly joked about serving for more than the legal limit of 2 terms or 10 years as president.[9] President Trump has repeatedly praised dictators including Putin, Duterte, Erdogan, and el-Sisi.[10] In 2018 President Trump praised brutal dictator[11] Kim Jong Un calling him "strong, funny, and smart."[12] At last years G7 summit President Trump loudly asked "where's my favourite dictator?" as he awaited for the Egyptian dictator.[13]
1) Washington Examiner - Trump calls mainstream media the enemy of the people

2) The Atlantic - He Dares Call It Treason

3) Washington Post - All the times Trump personally attacked judges — and why his tirades are ‘worse than wrong’

4) Fox News - Trump turns up heat on ‘un-American’ Dems silent during SOTU: ‘Can we call that treason?’

5) YouTube - All the Times Trump Has Called for Violence at His Rallies

6) PK - Saudi Arabia's assassination of a journalist and the world's response

7) Washington Post - President Trump greenlights assaults on reporters

8) Deutsche Welle - US President Donald Trump praises China's Xi Jinping for consolidating grip on power

9) CNN - Donald Trump just keeps 'joking' about serving more than 2 terms as president

10) The Atlantic - Nine Notorious Dictators, Nine Shout-Outs From Donald Trump

11) New York Times - Atrocities Under Kim Jong-un: Indoctrination, Prison Gulags, Executions

12) Fox News - Trump praises Kim Jong Un as 'strong,' 'funny,' 'smart' and a 'great negotiator' in Hannity interview

13) Wall Street Journal - Trump, Awaiting Egyptian Counterpart at Summit, Called Out for ‘My Favorite Dictator’
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Old 28th May 2020, 17:19
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Originally Posted by dr dre View Post
Except Trump has been in office for almost 4 years and has failed to bring the troops home in that time. In the intervening time he expanded the drone war in Afghanistan doing such things as killing pine nut farmers, let convicted war criminals out of prison and punishing those who brought them to justice, dropped the most amount of bombs in Afghanistan in any year since 2006 and tried to outsource the war to the criminal Blackwater mercenary group.

And he wants them home by Election Day, so he’s obviously doing it for political capital. If he was a serious peacemaker he would’ve done it as soon as making it into office in 2017.

Such a pacifist........
I would think a realist, unfortunately one soon realizes the considerable forces with vested interests in remaining in Afghanistan. If the troops do make it home by Election Day, who cares, I certainly don’t, and neither should you or anyone else, they will be home, and one less conflict to deploy to.
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Old 28th May 2020, 18:08
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Mohammed Noor (black cop in Minneapolis) kills Justine Diamond (white resident there)


Do you really think thats a reasonable way to approach this issue.

How many times have unarmed and non-threatening white folk been murdered by black police officers on camera?

The shooting of Diamond in MSP, although probably avoidable, occurred in very different circumstances to the most recent event involving Floyd.

The whole situation speaks of a very traumatized society and a troubling pathology that so many Americans simply do not get.

Including OB.

the considerable forces with vested interests in remaining in Afghanistan.


Correct and America will not be leaving central Asia or the Middle East for a long, long time.

Trump can suggest pulling troops out of Afghanistan all he wants but he should be reminded of what happened last time an American president tried to shut down the military industrial complex against their will.

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Old 28th May 2020, 18:16
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Oicur12, I am not addressing the incident with the cop essentially killing the man on the ground.

I'm addressing the tendency of that community to respond to an injustice by rioting, burning down their own community and robbing their retailers. After which there will be complaints that retailers won't operate there.

Do you think that is a reasonable way to approach the issue?
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Old 28th May 2020, 18:27
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Oicur12, I am not addressing the incident with the cop essentially killing the man on the ground.

I'm addressing the tendency of that community to respond to an injustice by rioting, burning down their own community and robbing their retailers. After which there will be complaints that retailers won't operate there.

Do you think that is a reasonable way to approach the issue?
Nope. It’s the completely wrong way to deal with the issue.

Why do you think they may have done that?
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Old 28th May 2020, 18:43
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Nope. It’s the completely wrong way to deal with the issue.

Why do you think they may have done that?
Unfortunately it has been found over the years that the majority of burning and looting is by folks from outside the area affected/directly involved.

Sad statement.
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Old 28th May 2020, 18:57
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These episodes, both the original offensive act and the offensive reactive behavior have become far too repetitive.
What to do?
How about stop repeating the same action in the hopes of a different outcome. Stop electing urban Democrat mayors, who bend to the will of the public employee unions, and appoint leaders (police commissioners, for example) of the basis of their identity, rather than their willingness to change the culture.
Clearly the values and ethics of Democrat mayors are not working. They have run these cities for years, full of promises but short on results. As a result, police departments, as in MSP and Chicago are more corrupt than ever.
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Old 28th May 2020, 19:07
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Originally Posted by obgraham View Post
Lets see....
Mohammed Noor (black cop in Minneapolis) kills Justine Diamond (white resident there)

Did the locals burn down their neighborhood and relieve the shops of televisions and sneakers? I don't recall.
You want to play a game of number of times blacks or ethnic minorities have been killed/murdered by white cops compared to the other way around? Or how many times white cops have "gotten away" with murder compared to any black cops who have done same? You just pulled out a 2017 case probably with some dificulty. I could pull up multiple cases of blacks murdered by white cops in 2020 Sir. They didn't burn down their neighborhood probably because citizens saw the justice system work as intended knowing that justice would be served in the case. Contrast that with the case of Ahmad Aubrey where the murderers were not even charged until the video came out months later. You really don't know what you're talking about.
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Old 28th May 2020, 19:11
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You were asked why you think the locals rioted and you went on a political jive coked up by Fox News against Democratic mayors. Can I suggest maybe you look at conviction rates for the white cops to understand why people would riot. Remember the 1992 LA riots? What has changed?
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Old 28th May 2020, 19:51
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The topic of tbis thread, Rev, is USPolitics. Therefore it is entirely reasonable to discuss the political aspect of this incident here. Your diversion to a "yeah, but whattabout" is a different topic.

We will change the police culture when the political leadership is in place to change it. You are unwilling to recognize that, and prefer the blame game.
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Old 28th May 2020, 20:07
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obgraham. Toadstool agreed with your summation by agreeing that rioting wasnt the best solution and asked a simple " Why do you think they may have done that? " Your response is there for all to see.
There is absolutely ZERO political aspect to this case apart from the Fox news viewers who want to make it so.
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Old 28th May 2020, 20:26
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There is absolutely ZERO political aspect to this case apart from the Fox news viewers who want to make it so.
Then why are you posting about this on a thread devoted to "Politics"? Why not start one called "What Brits hate about America".
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