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Old 13th Nov 2020, 14:42
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So it looks like Biden has won Arizona and is ahead in Georgia (the latter subject to a manual recount) to the point where it seems very probable he's won there too. Surely it's now time for Trump to concede, isn't it? There seems to be an overwhelming amount of evidence now that he's lost and that there wasn't large scale electoral fraud, so him persisting in expensive and acrimonious legal battles seems pointless.
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Old 13th Nov 2020, 14:51
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Originally Posted by VP959 View Post
So it looks like Biden has won Arizona and is ahead in Georgia (the latter subject to a manual recount) to the point where it seems very probable he's won there too. Surely it's now time for Trump to concede, isn't it? There seems to be an overwhelming amount of evidence now that he's lost and that there wasn't large scale electoral fraud, so him persisting in expensive and acrimonious legal battles seems pointless.
Ah, you're playing the ole common sense card Veep! I've warned you about that before. My theory is the Georgia recount will be the end point. I think his inner circle (all the ones who haven't any indictments coming) will walk away if he wont listen.

Hope you're right though.

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Old 13th Nov 2020, 15:02
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Don't know if this will work, but I'll try.
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Old 13th Nov 2020, 15:15
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Originally Posted by VP959 View Post
So it looks like Biden has won Arizona and is ahead in Georgia (the latter subject to a manual recount) to the point where it seems very probable he's won there too. Surely it's now time for Trump to concede, isn't it? There seems to be an overwhelming amount of evidence now that he's lost and that there wasn't large scale electoral fraud, so him persisting in expensive and acrimonious legal battles seems pointless.
Dirty Donald has a nice little scam running. As long as he has his tantrum running he will continue with the appeal for money to support the "legal battle". We've already shown that he's skimming 50% of those funds to "retire his campaign debt" (ie recoup his costs). The longer he keeps it going the more money he makes - who knows, he might even make this one of the tiny proportion of his business ventures that turns a profit.

The man's a crook. People have to decide whether they want to go down with (or on) the crook or stand away and seek redemption.

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Old 13th Nov 2020, 15:18
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Per, as I'm sure you know, China has been rattling swords over Taiwan more insistently lately. What better time to attack than when Taiwan's chief defender is in political disarray?

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Old 13th Nov 2020, 17:24
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Originally Posted by Ancient Mariner View Post
Why would they?
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Because they want a piece of their tax structure as well as an expansion of territorial waters as a form of a wall to keep out any uninvited
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Old 13th Nov 2020, 17:53
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Originally Posted by Mac the Knife View Post
Per, as I'm sure you know, China has been rattling swords over Taiwan more insistently lately. What better time to attack than when Taiwan's chief defender is in political disarray?

Mac
China's been rattling swords since Kuomintang, and there's a history even before that. They've had better opportunities to invade than the present.
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Old 13th Nov 2020, 17:59
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Trump's Whistle Blower on Fox News.

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Old 13th Nov 2020, 20:06
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Originally Posted by PDR1 View Post
Dirty Donald has a nice little scam running. As long as he has his tantrum running he will continue with the appeal for money to support the "legal battle". We've already shown that he's skimming 50% of those funds to "retire his campaign debt" (ie recoup his costs). The longer he keeps it going the more money he makes - who knows, he might even make this one of the tiny proportion of his business ventures that turns a profit.

The man's a crook. People have to decide whether they want to go down with (or on) the crook or stand away and seek redemption.

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Saved me a bunch of typing there PDR, thanks. Although for "crook" you should use "Petulant Narcissistic Bigoted Racist Nazi Inciter" otherwise you lose some of the accuracy.
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Old 14th Nov 2020, 01:19
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Blast from the past:

Donald Trump last August, before the US blew away our own records for Covid-19 infections rates, infections, hospitalizations, and deaths:

Washington (CNN) President Donald Trump said the United States' staggering death toll from coronavirus
"is what it is"

in a new interview, again giving his administration credit for its response despite ongoing surges in new cases and a human toll that far outpaces that of any other nation.

When confronted with the US' daily death toll and Trump's messaging on the pandemic during an interview with Axios on HBO that aired Monday night, the President grew defensive and appeared frustrated by Jonathan Swan's questions about the crisis.

"I've gone to your rallies. I've talked to your people. They love you. They listen to you. They listen to every word you say. They hang on your every word," Swan said. "And so when they hear you say, 'everything's under control. Don't worry about wearing masks,' I mean, these are people -- many of them are older people."

"Well, what's your definition of control?" Trump replied, adding: "I think it's under control."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/04/polit...-is/index.html
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Old 14th Nov 2020, 01:39
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Originally Posted by Richard W View Post
For example, the indictment for electoral fraud in 2016 and 2018 by one Dowless in North Carolina reads:
is this a variation of: 'but Hillary'? One Dowless commited fraud in 2016 and 2018? And what does a single fraud 4 years ago have to do with 2020?
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Old 14th Nov 2020, 01:46
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Originally Posted by 2unlimited View Post
Trump's Whistle Blower on Fox News.
That was one of the most painful interviews I’ve ever seen. Not only does she come across as the most brain dead, moronic idiot who can barely form coherent sentences, if you attempt to decipher whatever gibberish exits her mouth she actually doesn’t say she’s witnessed any fraud at all. The only thing she witnessed is perhaps a lack of catering at the polling centre!!!

But the Trump supporters are so brainwashed now they’ll lap it up as clear evidence of Fraud.

What has the world come to......
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Old 14th Nov 2020, 02:08
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Originally Posted by West Coast View Post
You have something to back that up? Recall that Trump received many more millions of votes in 2020 then he did in 2016.
I’ve noticed this line from right wingers upset with the Democrats winning is that It was a “narrow” win, that Trump basically only just missed out on the victory, and if the slightest thing had been different Trump would’ve cruised to a win.

Negative.

A few facts to digest.

Counting is still ongoing, but a lot of vote outstanding in New York will push Biden’s’ votes to about 80 million, and a final victory percentage of 4-5%.

Which means:

Biden will gain about 15 million more voters over Hillary Clinton.

Biden will win by a higher popular vote total and margin than any candidate this century except himself and Obama in 2008.

Biden will win a higher electoral college margin than George W Bush or JFK

Biden will take the 3rd highest popular vote percentage of a challenger to the incumbent party after Eisenhower and Obama.

Biden will take the highest popular vote percentage against a sitting incumbent since FDR in 1932.


Sure it wasn’t a 400+ EC landslide, but in an increasingly divided electorate they are things of the past. This was a clear and comfortable win, it was a rejection of the sitting incumbent and Trump supporters can spin it all they like, their guy was clearly rejected by the electorate.
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Old 14th Nov 2020, 02:40
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Originally Posted by Mac the Knife View Post
If I were China I would choose exactly this minute to attack Taiwan.....

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Put another way, they would pick exactly this moment to lose if they attacked Taiwan.
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Old 14th Nov 2020, 03:48
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Originally Posted by Mac the Knife View Post
If I were China I would choose exactly this minute to attack Taiwan.....

Mac
Too early. Wait until just after he pardons himself in December.
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Old 14th Nov 2020, 06:20
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Let it go. Our guy won. Trying to drive home the same point again and again only makes you look like the conservacucks of the last four years.
Let them drown in their tears and bitterness.
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Old 14th Nov 2020, 09:40
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Originally Posted by FalseGS View Post
dre
Let it go. Our guy won. Trying to drive home the same point again and again only makes you look like the conservacucks of the last four years.
Let them drown in their tears and bitterness.
I agree if you're referring to "our guy" as Biden. Let Trump and his closest associates whine away; it makes them look worse every day. They don't need any more assistance. But then there is no reason to call them "conservacucks". That attitude just gets us back into the worst behavior of the last four years and it's time to change that for the better.
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Old 14th Nov 2020, 09:46
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PS. I actually quite like this idea: make Trump President of Alaska.

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Old 14th Nov 2020, 11:48
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Originally Posted by 2unlimited View Post
Trump's Whistle Blower on Fox News.

https://youtu.be/kClthYmd0KE
Well I'm convinced.
"I saw a truck and because of the tight security at electoral counting venues. I couldn't go and look. So I saw nothing."
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Old 14th Nov 2020, 12:57
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US Election 2020: The 'dead voters' in Michigan who are still alive

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-54874120

"I may be 72," Maria Arredondo from Michigan told us when we called her. "But I'm alive and breathing. My mind is working fine and I'm healthy."
Maria said she had voted for Joe Biden and was surprised to hear that her name had appeared on a list of supposedly dead voters in the state.
So that's Republicans committing fraud by claiming live Biden voters are dead. Surely not? Those decent, honest Trump supporters would never do that, would they?

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