US Politics Hamsterwheel V3.0
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So it looks like Biden has won Arizona and is ahead in Georgia (the latter subject to a manual recount) to the point where it seems very probable he's won there too. Surely it's now time for Trump to concede, isn't it? There seems to be an overwhelming amount of evidence now that he's lost and that there wasn't large scale electoral fraud, so him persisting in expensive and acrimonious legal battles seems pointless.
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Originally Posted by VP959
So it looks like Biden has won Arizona and is ahead in Georgia (the latter subject to a manual recount) to the point where it seems very probable he's won there too. Surely it's now time for Trump to concede, isn't it? There seems to be an overwhelming amount of evidence now that he's lost and that there wasn't large scale electoral fraud, so him persisting in expensive and acrimonious legal battles seems pointless.
Hope you're right though.
CG
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Originally Posted by VP959
So it looks like Biden has won Arizona and is ahead in Georgia (the latter subject to a manual recount) to the point where it seems very probable he's won there too. Surely it's now time for Trump to concede, isn't it? There seems to be an overwhelming amount of evidence now that he's lost and that there wasn't large scale electoral fraud, so him persisting in expensive and acrimonious legal battles seems pointless.
The man's a crook. People have to decide whether they want to go down with (or on) the crook or stand away and seek redemption.
PDR
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Originally Posted by Mac the Knife
Per, as I'm sure you know, China has been rattling swords over Taiwan more insistently lately. What better time to attack than when Taiwan's chief defender is in political disarray?
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Below the Glidepath - not correcting
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Originally Posted by PDR1
Dirty Donald has a nice little scam running. As long as he has his tantrum running he will continue with the appeal for money to support the "legal battle". We've already shown that he's skimming 50% of those funds to "retire his campaign debt" (ie recoup his costs). The longer he keeps it going the more money he makes - who knows, he might even make this one of the tiny proportion of his business ventures that turns a profit.
The man's a crook. People have to decide whether they want to go down with (or on) the crook or stand away and seek redemption.
PDR
The man's a crook. People have to decide whether they want to go down with (or on) the crook or stand away and seek redemption.
PDR
See and avoid
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Blast from the past:
Donald Trump last August, before the US blew away our own records for Covid-19 infections rates, infections, hospitalizations, and deaths:
Washington (CNN) President Donald Trump said the United States' staggering death toll from coronavirus
"is what it is"
in a new interview, again giving his administration credit for its response despite ongoing surges in new cases and a human toll that far outpaces that of any other nation.
When confronted with the US' daily death toll and Trump's messaging on the pandemic during an interview with Axios on HBO that aired Monday night, the President grew defensive and appeared frustrated by Jonathan Swan's questions about the crisis.
"I've gone to your rallies. I've talked to your people. They love you. They listen to you. They listen to every word you say. They hang on your every word," Swan said. "And so when they hear you say, 'everything's under control. Don't worry about wearing masks,' I mean, these are people -- many of them are older people."
"Well, what's your definition of control?" Trump replied, adding: "I think it's under control."
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/04/polit...-is/index.html
Donald Trump last August, before the US blew away our own records for Covid-19 infections rates, infections, hospitalizations, and deaths:
Washington (CNN) President Donald Trump said the United States' staggering death toll from coronavirus
"is what it is"
in a new interview, again giving his administration credit for its response despite ongoing surges in new cases and a human toll that far outpaces that of any other nation.
When confronted with the US' daily death toll and Trump's messaging on the pandemic during an interview with Axios on HBO that aired Monday night, the President grew defensive and appeared frustrated by Jonathan Swan's questions about the crisis.
"I've gone to your rallies. I've talked to your people. They love you. They listen to you. They listen to every word you say. They hang on your every word," Swan said. "And so when they hear you say, 'everything's under control. Don't worry about wearing masks,' I mean, these are people -- many of them are older people."
"Well, what's your definition of control?" Trump replied, adding: "I think it's under control."
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/04/polit...-is/index.html
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Originally Posted by Richard W
For example, the indictment for electoral fraud in 2016 and 2018 by one Dowless in North Carolina reads:
Join Date: Jun 2011
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Originally Posted by 2unlimited
Trump's Whistle Blower on Fox News.
But the Trump supporters are so brainwashed now they’ll lap it up as clear evidence of Fraud.
What has the world come to......
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Originally Posted by West Coast
You have something to back that up? Recall that Trump received many more millions of votes in 2020 then he did in 2016.
Negative.
A few facts to digest.
Counting is still ongoing, but a lot of vote outstanding in New York will push Biden’s’ votes to about 80 million, and a final victory percentage of 4-5%.
Which means:
Biden will gain about 15 million more voters over Hillary Clinton.
Biden will win by a higher popular vote total and margin than any candidate this century except himself and Obama in 2008.
Biden will win a higher electoral college margin than George W Bush or JFK
Biden will take the 3rd highest popular vote percentage of a challenger to the incumbent party after Eisenhower and Obama.
Biden will take the highest popular vote percentage against a sitting incumbent since FDR in 1932.
Sure it wasn’t a 400+ EC landslide, but in an increasingly divided electorate they are things of the past. This was a clear and comfortable win, it was a rejection of the sitting incumbent and Trump supporters can spin it all they like, their guy was clearly rejected by the electorate.
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Originally Posted by Mac the Knife
If I were China I would choose exactly this minute to attack Taiwan.....
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Originally Posted by FalseGS
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Let it go. Our guy won. Trying to drive home the same point again and again only makes you look like the conservacucks of the last four years.
Let them drown in their tears and bitterness.
Let it go. Our guy won. Trying to drive home the same point again and again only makes you look like the conservacucks of the last four years.
Let them drown in their tears and bitterness.
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Originally Posted by 2unlimited
"I saw a truck and because of the tight security at electoral counting venues. I couldn't go and look. So I saw nothing."
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US Election 2020: The 'dead voters' in Michigan who are still alive
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-54874120
So that's Republicans committing fraud by claiming live Biden voters are dead. Surely not? Those decent, honest Trump supporters would never do that, would they?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-54874120
"I may be 72," Maria Arredondo from Michigan told us when we called her. "But I'm alive and breathing. My mind is working fine and I'm healthy."
Maria said she had voted for Joe Biden and was surprised to hear that her name had appeared on a list of supposedly dead voters in the state.
Maria said she had voted for Joe Biden and was surprised to hear that her name had appeared on a list of supposedly dead voters in the state.
