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Old 24th Jun 2020, 17:45
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the police were not only disinterested,
From the rest of your post, I would suggest that you meant uninterested ... otherwise, your comment would indicate a non-biased approach by the plods ... a rare thing , indeed!
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Old 24th Jun 2020, 18:16
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Interesting story on BBC news today, which is also on their website, that said a black person was involved in nearly 20% of the incidents where a Taser was used. Black, African, Caribbean and black British people represent 3.5% of England's population, according to the Office for National Statistics. Now I can't think why that would be.

Two people were interviewed. One had been arrested the day before on drug charges and was running away from the police when he was Tasered. The other person came out of his house and got involved with the police when they were dealing with another person. Both claim they were Tasered because of their colour.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53165938

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Old 24th Jun 2020, 18:31
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There must be a run on DIY Victim Kits.
Easy for candidates to pull that card out of the pack when they can surf on the wave of present hysteria.
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Old 24th Jun 2020, 20:57
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DIY Victim Kits.
I need one to recover from an excess of self-satisfied. self-entitled wassocks complaining about the justified appeals of the badly-treated being publicised. Their (the wassocks) universal complaints of disruption to their comfortable lifestyles leaves one with the sad recognition that selfishness and greed are, for some, much greater motivators than empathy or compassion. What a commentary on the human condition!
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 04:35
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In Oz, a black schoolkid was stabbed in a gang fight and died. It got minimal TV coverage, because the kid who stabbed him was also black. Didn't fit the Outrage Group's agenda, so no protest, no riots, no calls for police to be disbanded.

The Outrage Bus is still sitting at the starter's gate, waiting for a white kid to do it to a black kid.
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 08:19
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More 'largely peaceful' BLM rioting in South London last night:

15 officers injured.
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 08:27
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Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie View Post
In Oz, a black schoolkid was stabbed in a gang fight and died. It got minimal TV coverage, because the kid who stabbed him was also black. Didn't fit the Outrage Group's agenda, so no protest, no riots, no calls for police to be disbanded.

The Outrage Bus is still sitting at the starter's gate, waiting for a white kid to do it to a black kid.
Was that a racially motivated crime? I feel that you are deliberately missing the point of this entire issue.
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 09:01
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The problem is that many will see a "racial motivation" where there most probably isn't one. Pretty much everyone tends to stereotype people, be it by race, perceived political belief, appearance, social class, income category, gender, perceived religious views, sexuality, you name it, someone will have a stereotypical pigeon hole to put someone in. We run a big risk of assuming that race is the overriding motivation for any action, when in reality it may be something different.

For example, a few years ago I worked with a chap that I detested. He was, in my view, a perfect example of the sort of slimy, arse licking, bureaucrat that has no place in government, let alone working in a minister's outer office, and filtering everything that was passed to the minister. We had several major rows, and every time he would end up throwing the fact that he happened to be Jewish at me, as if that was the reason for my dislike of him. The first time he did this I was genuinely shocked, as until then I hadn't the slightest idea as to what his religion/race was. This was the only time I had someone try to use the race/religion card as an excuse for their, in my view unacceptable, behaviour, but I suspect that this happens a fair bit, and not just with race and religion, either. I bet it happens with political beliefs, gender, sexuality you name it, there will be some that try to use perceived discrimination as a "get out of jail" card.
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 09:26
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Originally Posted by TURIN View Post
Was that a racially motivated crime? I feel that you are deliberately missing the point of this entire issue.
Of course he is. Heard a great interview yesterday with Adam Goodes, the AFL player who eventually quit because he had the sheer gall to stand against racism.

As a white middle aged male I have never encountered any discrimination against me, other than a derogatory anti Scottish term, in jest, or heightist jokes.

Every single BAME person I know has experienced racism in some degree. Perhaps theyíve finally had enough. Iím not surprised.
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 09:32
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You do know that the phrase BAME is now offensive according to a young well-spoken white lady on the BBC yesterday.
I think the new phrase may be Black Other Minorities.
Why Black is now separated I am unsure.

Re the disturbances in London last night - bring back the Saxons we had in Northern Ireland.
Open the side shields, let them throw rocks at the vehicles all night while sitting in the back drinking brews - the douche bags will soon get tired and bored.
Nobody needs to get injured and the vehicles can be jet washed in the morning.
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 09:35
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Originally Posted by Toadstool View Post
Of course he is. Heard a great interview yesterday with Adam Goodes, the AFL player who eventually quit because he had the sheer gall to stand against racism.

As a white middle aged male I have never encountered any discrimination against me, other than a derogatory anti Scottish term, in jest, or heightist jokes.

Every single BAME person I know has experienced racism in some degree. Perhaps theyíve finally had enough. Iím not surprised.
This sums it up quite well, but a lot of people in this thread, also undoubtedly "white middle aged males", don't want to hear that argument and simply ignore it. I'm a "foreigner" myself in the UK but I'm white, somehow made it into becoming a pilot so I'm considered a nice "expat", not an immigrant, and haven't encountered discrimination. Most people from ethnic minorities, yes also in this country and not just in the USA, have a very different experience, even if they were born here.
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 09:50
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Originally Posted by Spunky Monkey View Post


Re the disturbances in London last night - bring back the Saxons we had in Northern Ireland.
Open the side shields, let them throw rocks at the vehicles all night while sitting in the back drinking brews - the douche bags will soon get tired and bored.
Nobody needs to get injured and the vehicles can be jet washed in the morning.
I think they may need to be a little more proactive unfortunately, this has all the hallmarks of a 2011 re-run.We just need a few more days of hot weather before we see widespread disorder and looting. We only put a lid on it last time by a massive show of force. Kneeling down or running away is not going to cut it with these folk.
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 09:55
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Originally Posted by Spunky Monkey View Post
Toadstool
You do know that the phrase BAME is now offensive according to a young well-spoken white lady on the BBC yesterday.
I think the new phrase may be Black Other Minorities.
Why Black is now separated I am unsure.
g.
Perhaps my organisationís D&I training needs to be updated.
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 10:08
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Originally Posted by trident3A View Post
I think they may need to be a little more proactive unfortunately, this has all the hallmarks of a 2011 re-run.We just need a few more days of hot weather before we see widespread disorder and looting. We only put a lid on it last time by a massive show of force. Kneeling down or running away is not going to cut it with these folk.
Is it just black rioters you are in interested in, as (with a lower level of violence) Hove Lawns wasnít much better last night. Different demographic of course....
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 11:38
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BBC now reporting 22 police injured in last night's "street party"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-53176472
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 12:22
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Nothing like a bit of cold wet weather to bring an end to peoplesí outrage. Guarantee there wonít be any street protests after late October in the uk.

VP959. Almost exactly the same story here about your colleague. Mrs BBE worked in a personnel department (refuse to call it HR!) and had a very similar incident with an employee. The company has taken on a young woman who, during her probation, loved to play the fool and initiate inappropriate comments about other members of staff, ironically often religion and race. Quite understandably, at the end of her trial period, the business decided she wasnít of the calibre they were looking for and she was told that her employment wouldnít be continuing. Immediately, she threw the Jewish card into the ring - no one had a clue that she was! - and she attempted to fight for unfair dismissal. Sadly, I understand she got some for of settlement as the company didnít wish to go through expensive litigation.
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 13:15
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I am old and conventional and I do not think that all this demonstrating, violence, criminal damage et all is any way warming me towards supporting the cause. I believe in it but these demonstrators are not enduring themselves to me. I actually consider them a threat to society..
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 15:15
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 16:30
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Who takes a sword to a "street party"
Time to treat them the same way that football hooligans are treated. Time for the media to stop inciting this rubbish.
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