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Old 15th Oct 2021, 13:32
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Originally Posted by MikeSnow View Post
Australia is one of the few countries having a death deficit, instead of excess deaths, during this pandemic. Not sure about Stalin, but most people would be proud of that accomplishment. Here in Romania, a country of 19 million people, we had just in the last 5 days more COVID deaths reported than Australia with its 26 million people had during the entire pandemic.
Romania's vaccination rate is quite low at 30% of the population, I guess many old people still recall the dark days of Nicolae Ceaușescu's rule and simply don't trust the government. It's not unusual for that part of the world for the elderly to be rugged, fiercely independent and not expect much support from by their own government. After all they've been through it's not surprising they find it difficult to trust the vaccination advice.

Australia is an island with less densely populated cities compared to most other countries, which is a physical advantage against the spread of a virus. However, even with this in our favour, two-thirds of all Covid-19 deaths in Australia have been in our state which is very disproportionate. Australia has also been lucky in that the population has been mostly compliant with the government advice given. Unfortunately for the people in my state we've had the extra pressure of numerous and long lock-downs which are very stressful and don't appear to have worked.

But restrictions are all ending soon as there is an international horse race to run in a couple of weeks - that's how our crappy government operates.
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Old 15th Oct 2021, 14:14
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Had my booster jab this week (Pfizer, other two were Oxford Zeneca) completely knocked me out for two days, was absolutely immobile, painful arm, headaches as well, slept through two nights 8 - 8, but woke up this morning right as rain, any one else had similar effects, had it persisted would have been onto NHS this morning but just cleared , most odd, lets hope it works.
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Old 15th Oct 2021, 14:21
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My friend (63) had her third Pfizer about 10 days ago, said arm a bit bruised for a while after. She felt a bit rubbish after the first dose. Assuming I will be invited for mine in about a month or so, AZ first two doses...
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Old 15th Oct 2021, 14:32
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Originally Posted by zetec2 View Post
Had my booster jab this week (Pfizer, other two were Oxford Zeneca) completely knocked me out for two days, was absolutely immobile, painful arm, headaches as well, slept through two nights 8 - 8, but woke up this morning right as rain, any one else had similar effects, had it persisted would have been onto NHS this morning but just cleared , most odd, lets hope it works.
Had exactly the same jabs as you and same side effect after Pfizer. After 12 hours the side effect set in, ached in places I never new I had, lasted 24 hours then all good. Have heard similar stories from people who had mild Covid prior to their jab or had AZ before Pfizer. Still itís all in a good cause.
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Old 15th Oct 2021, 15:52
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It will be interesting to see if those on here who complained of having been conned/frightened/pressurised by a wicked government into having the first 2 jabs and subsequently publicly doubted the need for them in the first place, now line up for their boosters.
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Old 15th Oct 2021, 16:26
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I would not use your terminology. I would describe myself as a reluctant sceptic. At present I am not planning on have a third vaccination.
Reasons: I consider I have sufficient natural immunity backed up with two previous vaccinations. My third vaccination should become someone else's first one.
In my view it would be more beneficial in the whole scheme of things......

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Old 15th Oct 2021, 22:52
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Originally Posted by Planemike View Post
I would not use your terminology. I would describe myself as a reluctant sceptic. At present I am not planning on have a third vaccination.
Reasons: I consider I have sufficient natural immunity backed up with two previous vaccinations. My third vaccination should become someone else's first one.
In my view it would be more beneficial in the whole scheme of things......
Out of curiosity, medical science would like to know how you know what your natural immunity is, ideally in quantitative terms. There could ba a Nobel Prize in it for you.

PS, if. you look back through your posts I think you will find the phrases I used reflect your earlier posts on the subject.
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Old 15th Oct 2021, 22:55
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Why you donít want Covid

Very limited research but a couple of reasons to stay vaccinated

My sisterís GP is currently treating two long-Covid patients.

One is now legally blind and the other deaf in one ear with limited hearing in the other. Prognosis uncertain.

Neither was vaccinated.

The GP saw my sister wearing full PPE (gloves, gown, mask, shield) which he has been working in since August!
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Old 16th Oct 2021, 00:14
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Originally Posted by treadigraph View Post
My friend (63) had her third Pfizer about 10 days ago, said arm a bit bruised for a while after. She felt a bit rubbish after the first dose. Assuming I will be invited for mine in about a month or so, AZ first two doses...
My 95 year old mother had her booster last week. She felt a bit tired afterwards, but that was mainly because there were no seats, so she had to stand up for an hour. She did however manage to walk to M&S for a cup of tea and a scone to recuperate.
I know I'm biased, but those of my mother's generation seem to be made of sterner stuff than us youngsters!
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Old 16th Oct 2021, 09:21
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Originally Posted by Ninthace View Post
Out of curiosity, medical science would like to know how you know what your natural immunity is, ideally in quantitative terms. There could ba a Nobel Prize in it for you..
Just intuition and very likely I could be wrong....!! Supposedly my age is a risk factor but I am generally healthy and take regular exercise. I am not BAME.
Certainly feel no inclination to have a third vaccination. Maybe required for those at higher risk.
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Old 16th Oct 2021, 11:03
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Originally Posted by Planemike View Post
Just intuition and very likely I could be wrong....!! Supposedly my age is a risk factor but I am generally healthy and take regular exercise. I am not BAME.
Certainly feel no inclination to have a third vaccination. Maybe required for those at higher risk.
Canít beat medical illiteracy can you when it comes to false conclusions? So you wonít need the flu jab either then.

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Old 16th Oct 2021, 11:12
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If you have had two shots, why any reticence about a third? No point over thinking what is really one of life's more trivial decisions. Oh, and it's free.
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Old 16th Oct 2021, 11:19
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Canít beat medical illiteracy can you when it comes to false conclusions? So you wonít need the flu jab either then.
Received my influenza vaccination last Saturday....!! Did I NEED it, really not sure? Not received a vaccination every year....
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Old 16th Oct 2021, 11:25
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If you have had two shots, why any reticence about a third? No point over thinking what is really one of life's more trivial decisions. Oh, and it's free.
I feel I am adequately protected without accepting a third vaccination. I take the view my third would be better used as someone else's first. Also feel the vaccination programme is being used as part of propaganda being pumped out.... Oh, the fact there is no charge does not enter into it....
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Old 16th Oct 2021, 11:25
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Received my influenza vaccination last Saturday....!! Did I NEED it, really not sure? Not received a vaccination every year....
You do realise how daft that sounds in light of your previous posts?
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Old 16th Oct 2021, 11:28
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OK.... I am daft (according to you), I can live with it !!! 🤣🤣
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Old 16th Oct 2021, 11:35
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Received my influenza vaccination last Saturday....!! Did I NEED it, really not sure? Not received a vaccination every year....
" Ha ha... no "" infinite wisdom"" available here (must be available on other posts!!!), just a few personal opinions..... .!!! "

Aww. how quaintly self-effacing albeit there was no need to clarify for us (see above and passim)

Just one little prick really, the flu jab that is.

Out of interest, do you reside under the old railway bridge, now a footpath, over St Peters Way ?

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Old 16th Oct 2021, 18:06
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No, I live in a four bed detached house....as it happens.
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Old 16th Oct 2021, 23:23
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Originally Posted by Planemike View Post
No, I live in a four bed detached house....as it happens.
ah, hang on; I know this one:

One bedroom is too big
And one bedroom is too small
Then there is a bedroom which is juuuust right.

Then there is your bedroom.
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Old 17th Oct 2021, 01:25
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Well, one day we all end up in a one room place with a lid... Perhaps except Planemike, who has self-diagnosed being immune to all kinds of vira, and thinks this corona-fuss is completely over the top, and to this post will reply that he's an ordinary guy not wanting to upset anyone and all is dandy and ... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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