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Old 1st Dec 2019, 14:09
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Never wore them. Besides back in the seventies as a teenager they were associated with the 'boot boys' and skinheads. Anyway they were unaffordable in my family. I was lucky to have one pair of shoes sometimes.
I still have a pair of my old army boots which have seen good service, issued to me back in the early eighties. A bit of spit and polish would see them another 30 odd years. But sadly they no longer fit. Who knew your feet got bigger as you get older?
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 15:46
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I think we increase in all dimensions except height as we age.
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 16:41
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I've had a couple of pairs but they look odd once you reach a certain age
Apparently Pope John Paul had a white pair of DMs.....
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 16:42
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Originally Posted by k3k3 View Post
I think we increase in all dimensions except height as we age.
Tell that to the Missus.
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 18:02
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Originally Posted by teeteringhead View Post
Apparently Pope John Paul had a white pair of DMs.....
Holy boots? Did they let in water?
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 18:14
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Originally Posted by teeteringhead View Post
Apparently Pope John Paul had a white pair of DMs.....
Well, that just proves my point... He was a skinhead!
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 18:44
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I’ve got a pair of traditional leather walking boots (solid brown uppers, beautifully soft black, padded ankle surrounds) that I bought for £65 (a lot of money for me at the time) in an old fashioned outdoor / shooting and fishing store in Banchory in 2000. I bought them to keep my feet dry on the soggy airfield at Aboyne, where I was towing gliders at the time. A little heavy to fly in, but suited the agricultural Pawnee quite well!
They have been through two or three soles and a bit of stitching repair. The uppers are showing a bit of age now but still polish up well enough for country walking and I still use them several times a week. I have a pair of lighter trainer style ‘trail’ boots to go in the suitcase for walking up hills abroad but they’re not a patch on my old boots.

EDIT: Never owned DM’s. When I was at Sixth Form College in the early 90’s they were having a revival as part of the ‘Grunge’ scene, which I wasn’t into.

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Old 1st Dec 2019, 20:04
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Originally Posted by krismiler View Post
Doc Martens have two lines available:

1. The lower cost version produced abroad and down to a price, but looks exactly the same.
2. The high cost version produced in Britain and marketed as a better quality product for those willing to pay more for the "genuine" article.

The UK produced footwear is typically sold in a demarcated area of the official stores with lots of Union flags.

You pays your money and you takes your choice.
In the article Dr Martens deny this, but of course, they would, wouldn't they?

I started the thread partly because of the increased profits/declining standards theme which crops elswhere particularly in relation to to current Boeing issues but it interesting how
people get attached to their boots and connect them with a time and place and I'm impressed with the response.

I had a steel toe-cap pair of DMs about 40 years ago and was happy enough, but never had the need after that.
Later I related more to my walking boots and various trips I had done.

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Old 1st Dec 2019, 22:07
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The moral is, when buying beds or shoes buy the best quality you can afford. You're either in one or wearing a pair of the other.
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 23:10
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Never owned DMs, nor would wish to (at that price!!) but had to do a major repair for a visiting friend's daughter in the 70s. Not massively impressed with the quality.
In an earlier era (50s) there was a period when 'Brothel Creepers' were essential footwear for the 'fashionistas'. Doing the Abingdon Para dispatchers course we 'volunteered' for a balloon jump at WotG. The chap ahead of me (Dave B) was so equipped and his over-enthusiastic exit meant that the last I saw of him leaving the basket was the thick crepe soles of his 'BCs'!
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 23:33
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Why blame the firm.. they are doing what the public demand.
‘if people buy the cheapest s...e they can find online then that’s what will be manufactured..
no one wanted to pay up for DM’s home made quality so they stopped making it...

‘’it’s the same as people moaning about
the demise of the high street whilst never shopping there.. it’s 3 quid cheaper online. Blah blah.

The consumer gets what it deserves in the end
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Old 2nd Dec 2019, 01:03
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I have two pairs of DM shoes, an original "Made in England" pair and another which was made in Thailand, IIRC I have also seen ones made in Vietnam and China. The country of origin is marked inside the tongue and easily checked. So far the foreign pair have stood up well, however they are not subject to daily use and well cared for, shoe trees inserted, polished regularly. For frequent use a UK pair would be a better bet, however at that price they are starting to get towards the lower end of much higher quality brands. For occasional use, such as goes well with a particular outfit, save your money and buy foreign made.

In Australia, the iconic RM Williams boots are going the same way. Previously they were marketed as "one piece of leather, one boot" and "Australian made", however these ones now cost in the region of 250 - 300 pounds a pair. Some of their footwear in now made abroad and is much more affordable.

There are also plenty of custom boot makers in Asia who will do you a pair made to measure for around the price of a decent pair of shoes in the UK.
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Old 2nd Dec 2019, 02:29
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RM Williams Boots

Except the Aussie made RM's carry a lifetime guarantee. Sent mine back after 12 years fairly continual wear, and back they came fresh as a daisy and NIL cost.
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Old 2nd Dec 2019, 07:56
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We were in Kathmandu a few days sight seeing and preparing for a 7-day trek along the Annapurna range. The day before leaving I put on my well worn Norwegian made leather boots for a visit to a hill side tempel. Once there we were climbing some stairs when I thought I walked into some dog shit. Tried to scrape it off, but soon realised that I was scraping off the foam layer between the rubber sole and the boot itself. It had totally disintegrated. 😨
Hastened back to the hotel, could buy a new pair, but there was no way I'd start a long trek with new boots. Talked to the hotel concierge, could he find a cobbler who could fix new soles to the boots overnight? "Yes Sir, certainly Sir."
Sat in the lobby next morning wearing slippers waiting for the car to pick us up and take us to the airport at 10:00 hrs. At 09:58 concierge arrived with boots fitted with new vulcanised rubber soles.
Worked perfectly, still have them 18 years later.
Edited to add, the cost was GBP 7, and the concierge received a well earned tip.
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Old 2nd Dec 2019, 18:47
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Boots? We used to dream of boots as we sandpapered the calluses at night ...
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Old 2nd Dec 2019, 19:02
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Originally Posted by axefurabz View Post
Boots? We used to dream of boots as we sandpapered the calluses at night ...
Sandpaper - luxury?

We used to have to rub us feet on the railings outside the council offices to get the calluses off.

How the other half live!
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Old 2nd Dec 2019, 19:08
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Been on the receiving end of Bovver Boots growing up as an Asian yoof, but I gave as good as I got
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Old 2nd Dec 2019, 19:35
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Any fule no...…...Buy a pair of Blundstones and all your worries are over. Best thing to come out of Oz.
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Old 3rd Dec 2019, 02:09
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Blundstones are for people who can’t afford RM Williams.
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Old 3rd Dec 2019, 13:27
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What a boring bunch of buggers you are - you were no-one in the 80's if you didn't have a pair of Doc's.
1980's ? I was a Dad by then. In my day the ultimate footwear was my pair of black suede Chelsea Boots with the cuban heels and winkle-picker toes.
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