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Old 4th Aug 2019, 13:25
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Facebook following the route downwards?

Anybody else noticing a recent increasing suppression and rapid removal of reasoned counter points of view on many FB sites? It is also noticeable that some of the worse offenders in this regard seem to have a large population of suspect participants, judging by sampling and finding a high proportion of almost non-existent profiles ..Near illiterate polemic hysteria and ad hominem abuse are an increasing part of many sites' contents, many with large apparent followings, FB has always been a zoo, however I sense something else is now going on under the surface and it is beginning to smell suspiciously unpleasant
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Old 4th Aug 2019, 13:37
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No, can't say I have noticed that at all.

Do you frequent some extreme sites?
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Old 4th Aug 2019, 14:10
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Shall we just say "opinionated" regarding current topics , e.g.UK's EU & USA Relationships and Environmental issues (and accidentally briefly falling foul of "The Socialist Way" )
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Old 4th Aug 2019, 15:25
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I have, 6, I think, far-flung friends on FB. (too many?) It's handy to keep in touch.
I have never used it or even considered using it for news or current affairs.
And can't now think of one reason to do so.
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Old 4th Aug 2019, 17:14
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...and rapid removal of reasoned counter points of view on many FB sites?
"Reasoned counter points" - Hilarious.

Facebook is where old people go to receive a Birthday greeting from children who would rather not be with them, and the mentally unstable try to rationalize with the clinically depressed. Oh, and during election time some nice young technology graduates from the SVR try to help us with our democracy.
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If you shut your eyes to the population manipulation that is carried on through social media then you are living in the past.
If you are not a serial user of social media, as I an not, then you will not be affected but remember that there are millions and millions of people, many at an impressionable age, who devote a lot of their time to participating in social media.
you would have to be naive to think that this is not an influence very attractive to any power.
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Old 4th Aug 2019, 18:49
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Funfly. Thanks for amplifying my concerns One particular site I blundered on to almost accidentally, "The Socialist Way" , I found to be almost a caricature of your observations with bizarre Fred Kite/Citizen Smith gauliters removing any dissent from the party line.. The obvious motive in stifling discussion is that it usually an indicator of inadequate comprehension and a fear of any opposing point of view being expressed. My concern is as to who might be actually choreographing pulling the strings controlling these "useful idiots"
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Old 4th Aug 2019, 18:55
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Originally Posted by Haraka View Post
Funfly. Thanks for amplifying my concerns One particular site I blundered on to almost accidentally, "The Socialist Way" , I found to be almost a caricature of your observations with bizarre Fred Kite/Citizen Smith gauliters removing any dissent from the party line.. The obvious motive in stifling discussion is that it usually an indicator of inadequate comprehension and a fear of any opposing point of view being expressed. My concern is as to who might be actually choreographing pulling the strings controlling these "useful idiots"
Surely there are many incisive and witty posters here who could give TSW a good seeing too (figuratively speaking), or are they a little worried they may be 'unfriended'?
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Old 4th Aug 2019, 19:10
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"Surely there are many incisive and witty posters here who could give TSW a good seeing too (figuratively speaking), or are they a little worried they may be 'unfriended'?"
Be my guest! I found my constrained rational and polite comments totally removed by one "Mod" ( " You have a shitty point of view") ,initial denial that I had ever made them by another, with all the altercations expunged totally and then was immediately summarily banned

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Old 4th Aug 2019, 19:33
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I've been a FB user for about ten years, and use it now to keep in touch with a few friends who don't live locally and my immediate family who are about 100 miles away.
​​​​​​I'm quite sociable so used to enjoy posting quite frequently, usually just things I was doing, never politics, never pictures of just a plate of food.....
It has definitely gone downhill over the last few years. Seems to me to largely cater now for the whole spectrum of extreme viewpoints, people's egos and shite like "Only 7.2% of people will 'like' this" [photo of elderly person/ill animal/toddler]
I've almost stopped using it now because it mostly annoys me.

I do like pictures of cats though.
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Old 4th Aug 2019, 22:16
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Funfly and Haraka, are you're not the same person?
I say that because mostly my genius goes unrecognised. Indeed ignored. Usually pilloried.

Look in the mirror.
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Old 5th Aug 2019, 00:02
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Originally Posted by meadowrun View Post
I have, 6, I think, far-flung friends on FB. (too many?) It's handy to keep in touch.
I have never used it or even considered using it for news or current affairs.
And can't now think of one reason to do so.
Bingo! I use Facebook to communicate with far-flung friends (many from my racing days), and to keep in touch on high-power rocketry events. I wouldn't dream of using as a source of news or current affairs. I'm also very, very careful not to post my whereabouts and I haven't updated my profile in years. Interesting stuff that I do on travel doesn't get posted until I'm safely at home. Too easy for the wrong people to access that information.
Sadly, a large percentage of our younger generation has not yet acquired that wisdom.
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Old 5th Aug 2019, 00:50
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I love Facebook - I get a lot of fun out of it. I play scrabble with old friends and also people I have never met. I am a member of several groups to do with my hobbies (coins, medals, aviation, vintage cars and history of towns and cities I used to live in). I have never felt the need to get involved with the shouting matches which go on on the political and current affairs groups (which to be honest also goes on on PPRuNe). Years of membership means I can recognise the rubbish posts referred to by Blues and Twos straight away and just scroll past. I'd miss it just as much as PPRuNe if it disappeared.

By the way, do you like "Simon's cat" Bluesand twos? Always makes me laugh.
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Old 5th Aug 2019, 03:41
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I’m with Tankertrashnav. I’m very wary of giving FB any more personal information than I have to and although I considered stopping using it after the revelations of the last year or so, I decided to continue using it for the benefits I get.

I’m a member of Chipmunk, Vampire, Kiwi Pilot and Bristol Channel Pilot Cutter Groups, through which I’ve made several new friends.

I also post information about my activities, usually aviation related, that I hope are of interest to my friends around the world. I also enjoy receiving the posts and pictures of my far-flung friends, particularly those in Vietnam, where I used to live.

The fact that the majority of my Vietnamese friends are pretty girls in their 20s and 30s is entirely coincidental!

I do wish they would post more selfies and fewer pictures of food!
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Old 5th Aug 2019, 11:12
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tankertrashnav.
What many facebook users do not appreciate is that the data and information accumulated about you is not from what you post but extracted from your computer/phone etc.
Read the terms and conditions that you OKd and you will see exactly what stuff they can use from your machine. Stuff can even be taken from your phone camera without you knowing it and the content of every email, deleted or not, is used by many of the social media platforms.
Would they really put it in their Terms and Conditions if they did not see a way of using it?
We all click the OK button when using the apps but few read it all.
you can read ‘This is not Propoganda’ by Peter Pomerantsev to understand how social mediahas manipulated people over recent years.
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Old 5th Aug 2019, 14:37
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We all click the OK button when using the apps but few read it all.
I generally avoid using social media apps, particularly FB. I only access FB via a web browser.
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Old 5th Aug 2019, 15:01
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Just like this website and many others, Facebook is privately owned so why wouldn't it be subject to the provider's "house rules". If you don't like the house rules, best not to go in.
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Old 6th Aug 2019, 14:37
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Just like this website and many others, Facebook is privately owned so why wouldn't it be subject to the provider's "house rules". If you don't like the house rules, best not to go in.
I don't think that is the point, billions of people of impressionable age use facebook on a regular basis and these masses are what is being targeted by these very clever organisations.
It's not the 'house rules' it's what's in them that are revealing and these have been accepted by the people who offer them their lives.
The most stupid are those that show when and where they are off on holiday, when they are out at the pub in the evening.
"Dear burglar, here is a picture of me in Majorca so you know my house is probably empty!"
People like us are of no great interest to these organisations, we represent the minority and one assumes a group of people capable of making up their own minds.
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