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Old 30th Jun 2019, 16:41
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Originally Posted by Meester proach View Post
At least now , MCd do deliveries, which is great as a lot of the litter round here is from the fat wasters that frequent it.
Id register each bag individually as they are purchased so you can trace them back.
Just insist that fast food outlets brand all their packaging, and fine them 100 (or whatever) for each piece found as litter. It would then be up to them as to how to manage their customers. Eg, the packaging could have a serial number which could be registered against the punter's card that they used to pay, but this would be up to the retailer to design and implement.
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Old 30th Jun 2019, 16:55
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Originally Posted by Gertrude the Wombat View Post
the packaging could have a serial number which could be registered against the punter's card that they used to pay, but this would be up to the retailer to design and implement.
Ideal, but it just ain't gonna happen.
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Old 30th Jun 2019, 18:06
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
Same in Boston. When I complained I was told they might have just been visiting a seriously ill relative, or their staff would get attacked.
Back in 1996 I had got both the security staff and the President of the hospital involved when a lady refused to extinguish her cigarette. I asked the security guy to stopped her but by the time we got to her she did extinguish it.
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Old 30th Jun 2019, 19:07
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RiS, there was one patient whose image will be with me for ever. I shall skip the detailed prescription, shall we say that the hospital gown on a normal person would come below the knee. In his case it did not cover his catheter bag.

Now this was a public hospital open to anyone from toddlers to geriatrics and they should not be forced to see someone like thus making his way through the public areas so that he could fill his lungs with carcinogens. He should never have been allowed off the ward: leave to ward and consider yourself discharged. Instead he goes out, it was winter, and then pollutes and litters the grounds.
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Old 30th Jun 2019, 19:34
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Woke up at dark o'clock the other week to hear a strange banging clanking thumping sound from a little way off. Went out, nothing obvious to see, rejoined my lucscious lady friend Inthe horizontal. Two days later I went to the bus stop to get the 98 to Horsham and there it was dumped over the railings into the undergrowth. Piles of discarded builders "stuff". Despite combing through it there's nothing with an address on it. More expense for the council. Barstswards.
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Old 30th Jun 2019, 20:13
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Smoking and hospitals:

I once spent a night in an emergency cardiac ward (nothing of any interest wrong with me, it turned out, but this was the easiest way administratively to get me to see a consultant).

All the other occupants of the ward were regular visitors. All were smokers. All said that they wouldn't be back, because they really would stop smoking this time honest nurse. All were, in my judgement, lying.
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Old 30th Jun 2019, 21:44
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Originally Posted by Gertrude the Wombat View Post
Just insist that fast food outlets brand all their packaging, and fine them 100 (or whatever) for each piece found as litter. It would then be up to them as to how to manage their customers. Eg, the packaging could have a serial number which could be registered against the punter's card that they used to pay, but this would be up to the retailer to design and implement.
Nope. Never going to happen like that, way too complicated.

Now an easier way is to ink jet print order number onto packaging as they are paying, takes seconds and only need to use when customer has asked for a takeaway. Packagaing the hit them with 10 each time if they paid electronically.

McD's get a bad rap but do know their staff do collect litter from around their premises on a daily basis.
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Old 30th Jun 2019, 21:49
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Originally Posted by RedhillPhil View Post
Woke up at dark o'clock the other week to hear a strange banging clanking thumping sound from a little way off. Went out, nothing obvious to see, rejoined my lucscious lady friend Inthe horizontal. Two days later I went to the bus stop to get the 98 to Horsham and there it was dumped over the railings into the undergrowth. Piles of discarded builders "stuff". Despite combing through it there's nothing with an address on it. More expense for the council. Barstswards.
Friends live in that neck of the woods and since council decided to be way more selective in waste they taking the fly tipping has increased massively. Council happy saying they taking less rubbish from refurbs etc but paying massively to clean up fly tipping.

Some farms have installed wildlife type sensor cameras to catch vans and trucks doing it.
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Old 30th Jun 2019, 23:33
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I see those at Glasto doing there bit to keep the country tidy.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...cut-waste.html
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Old 1st Jul 2019, 00:38
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I see those at Glasto doing there bit to keep the country tidy.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...cut-waste.html
The only photo in that article showing rubbish disposal opportunities is the one with the Lebanese Mezze sign, and the bins are cut off 44 gal drums overflowing with rubbish.
If that's the best that the organisers can do then no wonder the place looks like a pig-sty.
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Old 1st Jul 2019, 09:35
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I reckon a lot of litter round here is from delivery drivers forced on to tight schedules. Don't understand why people chuck water bottles; hardly difficult to take home. It's a British thing it seems.
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Old 1st Jul 2019, 09:53
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Originally Posted by Mr Optimistic View Post
I reckon a lot of litter round here is from delivery drivers forced on to tight schedules. Don't understand why people chuck water bottles; hardly difficult to take home. It's a British thing it seems.
Round here it is the continental truckers and the water bottles have been reused and are not empty. Easier to chuck out the cab than go to the toilet.
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Old 1st Jul 2019, 10:09
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Littering

It is the preserve of the ignorant, stupid and lazy. Nationality has nothing to do with it.

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Old 1st Jul 2019, 10:32
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It is the preserve of the ignorant, stupid and lazy. Nationality has nothing to do with it.

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I agree completely ..... sort of.

Australia pre-1990 was a prefect example of a bad example.
All of the aspects of disciplined rubbish disposal were absent.
In some instances they still are, however the overall picture is now much better than it was then.
Heaving your crap out of the car window was standard practice, notably including beer bottles which required a deft hand to heave over the roof of the car and into the road verge shrubbery.
Similar straight-armed delivery as required for a cricket ball or grenade.

However a progressive, targeted, government-sponsored campaign that started back in the 1970's that combined both carrots and sticks slowly weaned most Australians away from their slovenly habits, or those related to rubbish disposal anyway.
The campaign, including the "Clean Up Australia" campaign has had a dramatic effect on outdoor littering.

It is, by no means, perfect.
But it is now streets ahead of how it was.

I read in previous posts about the litter around McD's in the U.K.
I'm sure that there are exceptions, but that just doesn't happen here.

The message from this post - get the government off their behind and try a strong campaign that combines education (first) and sanctions. It can work.
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Old 1st Jul 2019, 11:25
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Anything is worth a try. I am the ' street champion' round here and organise the 6 monthly litter picks. Deep ditches and thick hedges don't help. Find wine bottles 6 ft up in hawthorn. It's a mystery.
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Old 1st Jul 2019, 15:59
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Originally Posted by GLIDER 90 View Post
What is it with the UK regarding litter louts, what planet do some of these people live on? Time & time again I've seen people in McDonalds car parks throwing their litter out of their car doors or windows when only a few feet away is a bin. The mindless acts of fly tipping in the countryside, cigarette ends outside hospital entrances I heard from people who have being on holiday abroad and say it was spotless no litter etc. I think it's down to the mentality of some brits!! Same low life that leave kids or dogs in their cars on a hot day!!
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No different in the same establishments in and around New York. Not a UK peculiar thing by any stretch of the imagination.


Litter in London in the 70's and 80's was awful, but now it is one of the cleanest cities in the world, the difference is incredible and dramatic.

Spain and Italy are two countries that I frequent that seem to have a much larger litter issue than the UK.
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