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Old 15th Jul 2019, 05:52
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First, my thanks to ORAC for those kindly researched links......however, it's notable that, with one exception, they all have the same political hue. Bit skewed therefore.

Anyway, for those of a delicate disposition, please be aware this week the Guardian is running a series of articles about Boris....and setting the tone is this one.

It's long been alleged that Boris made these calls.......and to a notable alumnus ( bit of Latin please note ) of a certain club.....now there's a surprise.

There is a possibility some of you may be deprived of these insights because we are hoping to get away for a few days before the annual rug rat infestation / migration begins and we have a policy of being t'internet free on holiday.......

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...emands-apology
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Old 15th Jul 2019, 18:02
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May I wish KnC a very long holiday?
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Old 15th Jul 2019, 19:13
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First, my thanks to ORAC for those kindly researched links......however, it's notable that, with one exception, they all have the same political hue. Bit skewed therefore.
May I suggest you debate the facts rather than the messenger. And the same equally, of course, applies to everything you so predictably post from the Grauniad.

You know, however, things are getting desperate when they have to go back almost 30 years to resurrect the Guppy affair - and one something which came to nothing - Boris explains he agreed on the phone to humour Guppy, and then took n9 further action - which seems to be confirmed by the subsequent lack of any actual assault?
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Originally Posted by ORAC View Post
May I suggest you debate the facts rather than the messenger. And the same equally, of course, applies to everything you so predictably post from the Grauniad.

You know, however, things are getting desperate when they have to go back almost 30 years to resurrect the Guppy affair - and one something which came to nothing - Boris explains he agreed on the phone to humour Guppy, and then took n9 further action - which seems to be confirmed by the subsequent lack of any actual assault?










ORAC......one was being complimentary with regard to your research and subsequent results......after all, it's always fascinating to read such detail given the target audience .

Bemusing though as to your staunch support for Boris......and fancy the Guardian being churlish and reminding the UK population of his past, and criminal associates ...jolly beastly that !

Anyway, let us start with another JB anathema......for some......satire.....

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-be-a-disaster

Now, this next item will certainly bring chortles of approval ( again from the same some as above ) .......Boris seems obsessed with Empires as well ......and Turkey gets a mention....funny how Turkey also got another mention a few years ago and we are still awaiting the arrival of how many million was it again ?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ind-2007-essay

More on Boris and his selfless and wholesome virtues......just the sort of chap needed to run the UK !....actually, that should have read ruin the UK or run the UK into economical and societal oblivion ......

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-journalist-mp

Finally, a selection of Boris quips and thoughts......these may well result in a ripple of spoon banging approval from those taking their brekky when reading them...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ohnson-writing

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Old 16th Jul 2019, 06:40
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Can anyone else spot what all those links have in common?
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Old 16th Jul 2019, 07:16
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Originally Posted by Andy_S View Post
Can anyone else spot what all those links have in common?
Gosh, now there's a tricky question for the chaps to ruminate over !

But look at it this way......four links should more than occupy their time gaining further insights as to Boris given they will have to source the information for themselves during our short, non JB approved as always, holiday.

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Old 16th Jul 2019, 08:42
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post
ORAC......one was being complimentary with regard to your research and subsequent results......after all, it's always fascinating to read such detail given the target audience .

Bemusing though as to your staunch support for Boris......and fancy the Guardian being churlish and reminding the UK population of his past, and criminal associates ...jolly beastly that !

Anyway, let us start with another JB anathema......for some......satire.....

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-be-a-disaster

Now, this next item will certainly bring chortles of approval ( again from the same some as above ) .......Boris seems obsessed with Empires as well ......and Turkey gets a mention....funny how Turkey also got another mention a few years ago and we are still awaiting the arrival of how many million was it again ?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ind-2007-essay

More on Boris and his selfless and wholesome virtues......just the sort of chap needed to run the UK !....actually, that should have read ruin the UK or run the UK into economical and societal oblivion ......

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-journalist-mp

Finally, a selection of Boris quips and thoughts......these may well result in a ripple of spoon banging approval from those taking their brekky when reading them...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ohnson-writing
The Guardian is suffering from collective Boris Derangement Syndrome.
They have lost all perspective or connection with reality.
Luckily most people can see straight through their fake news.
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Boris is the best election winner of his generation. He was twice Mayor of London, a constituency that is massively Labour dominated.
As mayor of London he did a fantastic job, with many transformations for the better. The police were very well run and Boris promoted London to the world. So it boomed economically as well as culturally.
Most Londoners would clamour to get Boris back because his Labour replacement, Sadiq Khan, is an ongoing train wreck who could't rub a drinks party in a brewery.
Boris was also a brilliant Foreign Secretary. Improving relations around the world, especially with the USA. After the Skripal incident he got the world to unite against Russian expansionism and Putin's contempt of the law.

But the biggest accolade Boris has achieved is that the Guardian and the BBC don't like him. This is the ultimate praise any British politician can achieve. They didn't like our greatest Prime Minister, Margaret Thatcher. And they loved our useless Prime Ministers like Blair, Brown, Cameron and May.
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Old 16th Jul 2019, 13:05
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If The Guardian is pedaling 'Fake News' why is Boris not suing. It should be worth a pretty penny.

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Because peddling generic anti-Tory tosh isnít legally actionable. But no matter, if Brand is endorsing Labour, itís good news...for the Tories!
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Old 20th Jul 2019, 06:48
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Because peddling generic anti-Tory tosh isn’t legally actionable. But no matter, if Brand is endorsing Labour, it’s good news...for the Tories!
Morning...chaps . I had hoped, that, this thread would have been the JB equivalent of a Damascene conversion with the revelations about Boris for so many of you, but, sadly , possibly it was overly optimistic to have left four links ......too much factual information can be a lot to take in after all..

No matter, because here is Ms Hyde with her own inimitable summary, and all in one link please note, not only of your revered ( and endorsed by that paragon of statesmanship himself as we know ) Boris..PM (pending..... but already measuring up the curtains and carpets prior to waddling and flouncing into his new abode after Tuesday.......also contains other dashed unpatriotic commentary )

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...sons-best-bits
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Old 20th Jul 2019, 08:22
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On the contrary, far from Damascene conversions, Conservative and Brexit parties are both polling well ahead of Labour: currently vying for fourth place with the LDís. Clearly he has won support from many who are not natural Boris-fans. Although this may be explained by the disastrous and incoherent Labour alternative.
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Old 20th Jul 2019, 09:31
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Originally Posted by ShotOne View Post
On the contrary, far from Damascene conversions, Conservative and Brexit parties are both polling well ahead of Labour: currently vying for fourth place with the LDís. Clearly he has won support from many who are not natural Boris-fans. Although this may be explained by the disastrous and incoherent Labour alternative.
It defies belief that Corbyn has allowed the racism scandal to split his party when they had their best ever chance of winning an election.
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Old 20th Jul 2019, 09:48
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Labourís problems go way beyond their toxic racism. Brexit partyís strong support despite having no policies beyond the party name is testament to Corbynís dismal failure of leadership.
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Old 20th Jul 2019, 11:07
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If there was a general election on the horizon soon I would struggle to find a place for my vote.

I believe BJ to be a complete disaster for the UK. JC isn't even a credible option, couldn't even perform as an opposition. Lib Dems, never tried them and thought the T Shirt stuff in the European Parliament was just more student union stuff. Brexit party, chancers and opportunists is my polite way of judging them.

Where have all the grown ups gone?
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Old 21st Jul 2019, 05:23
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https://www.conservativehome.com/the...ave-voted.html

Our final Next Tory Leader survey. Johnson 73 per cent, Hunt 27 per cent, say those members who have voted.
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If there was a general election on the horizon soon I would struggle to find a place for my vote.

I believe BJ to be a complete disaster for the UK. JC isn't even a credible option, couldn't even perform as an opposition. Lib Dems, never tried them and thought the T Shirt stuff in the European Parliament was just more student union stuff. Brexit party, chancers and opportunists is my polite way of judging them.

Where have all the grown ups gone?

You're far from being alone. In my view we are now at the point that, should a GE be called (which I suspect is fairly likely) then an awful lot of people are going to have to decide how to vote, not on the basis of who would be best to lead the country, but who would do the least damage if leading the country. There are no good options at all.

I'd probably have to put my desire for Brexit to one side and vote LibDem, not because I believe they have a hope of leading the country well; I'm absolutely certain they don't, but because they don't have a leader who is as toxic or incompetent as the other two main parties.

Boris Johnson is just unthinkable as a leader, the man is an egotistical idiot of the first order. Jeremy Corbyn is so far detached from reality that I don't think he even begins to understand what it takes to lead a country; the man cannot even lead his own party and keep them together. The LibDems are pretty lacklustre, but so far seem to have generally (excluding their idiotic and childish anti-Brexit pranks) kept themselves fairly well together. Their major failings seem to be having a pretty unimpressive leadership and a lack of real talent within the high flyers of their party to form a government. I doubt they would last long if they did get to form a government, but they might be the least-worst option, and provide a breathing space for a more sensible, credible and organised political party to arise from the ashes before another GE.
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Old 21st Jul 2019, 09:03
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I doubt that even the most enthusiastic Lib Dem would think that they are going to go home and prepare for government. I do however think that there is a very realistic chance of them taking maybe towards a hundred seats, something that would inevitably change the political landscape barring the total disintegration of one or other of the two main parties. As a lifelong Labour supporter it is Jeremy Corbyn who has allowed me to take part in this realignment.
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Welcome to world of N Ireland politics, having to select the least worst option and having extremely poor choices. Mind you could be said about a lot of places.
I often thought that during any general election particularly in the case of NI that to ensure a decent level of democracy if a prearranged threshold of eligible votes were not received then a second election be held with the same candidates, if this again failed to meet the required threshold then the candidates standing should be removed and barred from political activities for a set period, the parties then would have to provide fresh candidates.
Probably be a lengthy process though.
As I believe Billy Connolly once said if anybody expresses an interest in being a politician they should automatically be banned from political life. Maybe he had a point.
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I doubt they would last long if they did get to form a government........
Funnily enough, that's how I feel about BoJo. However, if he lasts long enough to get Brexit over the line then it will have been worth it.
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Old 21st Jul 2019, 20:01
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Time for everybody to stop ! BJ will become PM
Brexit will occur on 31st Oct ... after that who knows?
Certainly none of the armchair politicians on this forum
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