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Old 25th Jun 2019, 10:51
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Heís also offered the only public criticism Iíve seen of Labourís rapacious property tax proposals. Capital Gains Tax on every house will have a huge impact on millions of people. Perhaps even more so, their admission that urgent measures would be needed to stop capital flight if Labour got in. Yet strangely, by contrast to Borisí tiff, itís barely been mentioned in the press and not at all by the BBC.
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Old 25th Jun 2019, 10:52
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Given his propensity for self publicisation and his uncanny knack of suddenly disappearing right at the moment when REAL responsibility looms large I am still not totally convinced he wants the job and will be there at the end. He just can't resist the glare of the spotlight.
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Old 25th Jun 2019, 11:00
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Old 25th Jun 2019, 11:03
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George Best is an excellent analogy, given his propensity for self destruction.
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Old 25th Jun 2019, 11:22
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It’s funny how the likes of Ian Hislop likes to act as if he occupies the moral high ground on his weekly HIGNFY appearance when in reality he is the editor of a slightly higher brow version of Closer magazine (name an actual gossip magazine title here since I am not really up on the latest titles).
Thanks for demonstrating that you’ve never actually read a copy of Private Eye! Even using gossip in it’s loosest sense, it would make up the maximum of less than a page!

Where do you stand on Boris (or one of his team, but with his knowledge) releasing the old (at least 6 weeks ago) loved up picture that’s been in the papers? In his LBC interview this morning he avoided answering a question on it up to 23 times (depending on who was counting)!

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Old 25th Jun 2019, 11:36
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And why should he answer it for Christ sake! He had a barney with heís good lady! Itís absolutely none of our business!
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Old 25th Jun 2019, 11:38
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Successful newspaper columnist, successful editor, award winning author, twice mayor of London, successful at being elected to Parliament (eat your heart out Farage), former cabinet minister, and one of two candidates to take over as PM.
I honestly think a lot of the left actually fear Boris far more than any of the other Tory contenders. For all his character flaws he has a profile, a charisma and a natural ebullience that Jeremy Hunt, for example, lacks.
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Old 25th Jun 2019, 11:57
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Who cares, all this is because the current popular candidate for the PM slot might actually do something that the rest of the muppets have tried not to do for three years, i.e. leave the EU, and by doing so do what the Conservatives keep claiming they would do and honour the referendum result, which after the last three years we know was a fallacy, so just in case he actually still wins after all the current tactics fail they are already broadcasting what they will do next to stop him actually doing the job they voted him in to do, if he wins, bit like Turkeyís voting for Christmas. Hunt will be another May so nothing will change the current deadlock, so look forward to more extensions until the next GE.

Some are even prepared to destroy their own party and help Corbyn get in than entertain the UK leaving the EU and that is beyond the pale even for politicians who appear to be stooping to a new low that I did not think they were capable of. Yet there are those who honestly believe that Corbyn getting in is a better choice for the future of the UK and its economy, than leaving the EU.

Finally, is Johnson the only politician who has ever had issues within their private lives, no, and has it affected the way they carry out their MP duties, no, does anyone actually believe that Gove did not get into the final two because of his admission of drug taking earlier in his life, doubt it very much.
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Old 25th Jun 2019, 11:58
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I have read Private Eye thanks but didnít think much to it personally. Each to their own. Besides, it was KnC that first referred to its gossip element. Gossip is gossip even if it is in a highbrow publication.

As for the picture of the loved up couple that is fair game. Especially if he approved itís release. It was almost certainly taken by a Ďpapí and Boris knows that comes with the territory. A very different scenario to something that happened behind closed doors and was recorded by a Ďconcerned neighbourí.

All of this makes it look like Iím sticking up for Boris. I personally have little interest in him or his personal life even if he does become PM. Just like I would have little interest in Jeremy Corbyn or Nigel Farageís personal life in similar circumstances.

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Old 25th Jun 2019, 12:11
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Just like I would have little interest in Jeremy Corbyn or Nigel Farageís personal life in similar circumstances.

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Not any more: Jeremy Corbynís bold admission that he likes to photograph drain covers, despite the fact that ďpeople think itís little oddĒ, has put drains and the people who love them in the spotlight.
Says it all really, fascination with something he would send the UK down.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a6668401.html

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Old 25th Jun 2019, 12:12
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Well Boris is a white, wealthy, male Tory so all bets are off. All the usual platitudes stop being relevant apparently and he is a free target to whatever abuse you an throw at him..

There is also the issue that these non gender assuming, equality seeking liberals have all instantly jumped to the conclusion that it is the woman that was a victim when there is nothing at all, as far as I an see, to suggest that was the case. It could have been Boris that was a victim of domestic abuse and is now refusing to speak about it to protect his partner.

Then again it could have just been a storm in a teacup that got a bit heated like most couples have had at one time or another and if it wasn't for the wealthy privileged EU supporting lefties next door having them under surveillance and the Guardian on speed dial it would all be forgotten.
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Old 25th Jun 2019, 12:15
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Well he seemed to do a better job running London as Mayor than the current in denial incumbent.
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Old 25th Jun 2019, 12:43
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Well he seemed to do a better job running London as Mayor than the current in denial incumbent.
Every ex employer glad he has moved on tells a story.
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Old 25th Jun 2019, 12:52
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I have read Private Eye thanks but didn’t think much to it personally. Each to their own. Besides, it was KnC that first referred to its gossip element. Gossip is gossip even if it is in a highbrow publication.

As for the picture of the loved up couple that is fair game. Especially if he approved it’s release. It was almost certainly taken by a ‘pap’ and Boris knows that comes with the territory. A very different scenario to something that happened behind closed doors and was recorded by a ‘concerned neighbour’.

All of this makes it look like I’m sticking up for Boris. I personally have little interest in him or his personal life even if he does become PM. Just like I would have little interest in Jeremy Corbyn or Nigel Farage’s personal life in similar circumstances.

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Ahem ! .............correct, I did refer to "Private Eye " as being revelatory for aspects of those who would much prefer their public persona wasn't tarnished by other less flattering and unsavoury events in their lives.

There was no mention of "gossip " by me however because I also said such revelations were not exclusive to politicians ........by your own admission, you don't like the publication, fair enough, and have never really read it in depth .......which is a shame really because you are depriving yourself of news and stories which quite often aren't covered in MSM and also more detailed stories about events that are.

And, this may induce you to take a closer look, the magazine has been critical of the Guardian !

" suitably Churchilian speech 'We will fight them on the beaches ............... We will never surrender' before setting off with his ill assorted Brexit Expeditionary Force to lay siege to walls of Brussels"


Alas, the world will be deprived of such utterances because that other bastion of honesty, patriotism and self-serving deceit masquerading as concern, Nige, has already stated he will pick up a rifle and march on Brussels !........Nige, as we know,, is on an equal footing with Boris when it comes to grandiose statements......and downright misleading fallacies.

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Old 25th Jun 2019, 12:53
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Every ex employer glad he has moved on tells a story.
As do the crime statistics for London
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Old 25th Jun 2019, 15:27
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I don't know why everyone is going on about his private life. It's irrelevant.

It's his public life that has everyone worried. Max Hastings quoted above couldn't be more clear. He cannot be trusted. Also to argue he's better than Corbyn is no argument at all. Teresa May is better than Corbyn, I'm better than Corbyn. Anyone is better than Corbyn. But the best the Conservatives can come up with to save a sinking ship is to appoint a new Captain who's likely to open the sea cocks and take the first lifeboat when it's clear there is no hope.

​​​​​He can't deliver a new deal and he won't be allowed a no deal.

Article 50 will be be revoked and a new definitive referendum will be the result.
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Old 25th Jun 2019, 15:49
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As do the crime statistics for London
Number of police per 1000 of London's population has decline from 4.1 to 3.3 in 7 years, lots more people, less cops.
2010 - 33,300
2017 - 30,800

Who doing the cutbacks ? oh wait it is a Tory govt.
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Old 25th Jun 2019, 15:51
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Jeremy Hunt, Entrepreneur
Having watched the BBC debate with all the usual suspects (wannabe PMs), when there was still the full field of 5. During this, I was struck by how often Jeremy Hunt told us he "is an entrepreneur" and it occurred to me today to see if I could find what exactly he meant by that.
Turning to Companies House, I see he is listed as having 1 appointment; a resigned directorship of an outfit named The Small Business Bureau Ltd. More on this outfit later but this particular post is shown as resigned on 17th July 2007. That hardly makes him an entrepreneur in the present tense, so I thought I would look a bit deeper.
If one does a Companies House search on Jeremy Richard Streynsham Hunt, there are 4 entries.
The first is as an active director of Nyumbani UK And The Hotcourses Foundation which is basically a charity. The current Secretary of this company is a Michael Elms, a childhood friend of Hunt's. Both Hunt and Mr. Elms were reportedly (Wikipedia) Directors of a company named Hotcourses Ltd, although Hunt is not listed as either a current of previous officer of this company, which was eventually sold to Australian owners, IDP Connect Ltd. reportedly allowing Hunt to trouser £14M as a result of his 48% shareholding. Well done him!
Mind you, Hunt also worked a number on the HMRC by taking some of his dividends in the form of property, saving himself a cool £100K. Both Hunt & Elms have reported themselves as Resigned from this company. Hunt is reported as Resigned in 2009.
Back to Nyumbani UK And The Hotcourses Foundation:
As the company's accounts show "There are no key management personnel remunerated directly by the charity", I suppose we can take it Mr Hunt is not considering this position one of a money making entrepreneur (and good for him!).
So, where else might Mr. Hunt claim to be an entrepreneur?
Well, he got into a spot of bother in 2018 when he was found to have failed to declare an interest in a property company when he bought 7 properties in a Southampton development. The property company concerned was Mare Pond Properties Ltd. The single officer listed for this company is Ge Guo, a Chinese national. Persons listed with significant control are Ms Ge Guo and Mr Jereny Hunt, both of whom are shown as having More than 25% but not more than 50% ownership of shares and the same ratios of voting rights.
That company's accounts show the company had assets of £15,938 and liabilities of £3,782,803. Hardly the rip roaring entrepreneurial record upon which to build your claim to be PM. Incidentally, I wonder who is Ge Guo? His wife is named Lucia Guo.
So, it seems to me Mr Hunt's claims to be an entrepreneur are limited to his involvement with Hotcourses Ltd.
Now, back to his earliest involvement with a company; The Small Business Bureau Ltd (Oct 2005 to July 2007). The activities of this company are listed as "Other business support activities not elsewhere classified". Well, active and former officers include:

Christopher Davies Nigel Evans Anne Marie Morris Lord Richard Risby Angela Browning Nadim Zahawi Virginia Bottomley Graham Bright Lord John Cope
Charles Elphicke Mark Field Christopher Fraser George Freeman Michael Grylls Jeremy Hunt David Trippier Ed Vaizey David Warburton
All Conservative politicians.

Plus the late Alan Cleverly, a political agent for the Surrey Heath constituency and agent for Michael Gove.
Perhaps this company should list their activities as "Conservative MP factory and production line"?
Meanwhile, Boris's entrepreneurial experience seems to have been limited to a single involvement with a now dissolved company, from which he had resigned in 2008.
Overall, a pair of losers in business! But at least Johnson has the decency to keep his trap shut when Hunt is bragging about his business skills/talents.
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Old 25th Jun 2019, 16:16
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ďAllowing him to trouser £14million....Ē Doesnít sound like being a loser to me, Kelvin. Since youíre so well up on financial numbers perhaps you could advise just how many tens of billions Corbynís renationalisation plans will cost and where itís coming from? We know theyíre going to leach home owners for about £28 billion from CGT on personal homes. Thatíll pay for about half the railways. What about the rest?
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Old 25th Jun 2019, 16:17
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While youíre at it, can you name anyone on the Labour front bench capable of running ANY business?
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