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Old 22nd Jun 2019, 07:10
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I bet The Govester is having a chuckle over his cornflakes. We are being told by Boris' supporters that this doesn't matter, and in many ways it doesn't. You can just imagine the scene though. It's late October in No10 and things are at a crucial point with the EU. Meanwhile Bozza is engaged in a bout of crockery throwing with his latest old bloom after spilling the Merlot on the sofa. You could nae make it up!
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Old 22nd Jun 2019, 08:39
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Originally Posted by Nige321 View Post
And even fewer voted to stay...
No Remainer is interested in that statistic.....
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Old 22nd Jun 2019, 10:05
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Boris is not yet toast but he is warming up to be.
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Old 22nd Jun 2019, 10:12
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I wonder if the spilt wine was the real reason for the row? As we all know from our own relationships a small incident can often be the trigger for a bigger issue simmering in the background.
The woman concerned has been widely credited with smartening Boris up, guiding his appearances and generally making him more presentable as a potential PM. If he doesn't respond to recognise and reward that help in private and in public he will naturally cause some resentment.
Is this the real issue?
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Old 22nd Jun 2019, 10:13
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
I wonder if the spilt wine was the real reason for the row? As we all know from our own relationships a small incident can often be the trigger for a bigger issue simmering in the background.
The woman concerned has been widely credited with smartening Boris up, guiding his appearances and generally making him more presentable as a potential PM. If he doesn't respond to recognise and reward that help in private and in public he will naturally cause some resentment.
Is this the real issue?
ot maybe she is someone with her own planned agenda.

Is their an official position of Prime Minister's Mistress ?
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Old 22nd Jun 2019, 10:26
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Theirs is almost certainly a complex relationship. I know little about the woman but she will probably be a strong personality and as such there will be plenty of scope for conflict with Boris who will be the poster boy for upper class male entitlement.
My own view is that this is a relationship that won't last very long if they are at the stage of violent rows over spilt wine.
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Old 22nd Jun 2019, 11:33
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AOL has the headline "Tory party in chaos" (over the Boris spat). What a load of tripe, the whole thing being bigged up by journalists.

(Can you say "bigged" or is that just a Trump word?).
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Old 22nd Jun 2019, 11:58
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ot maybe she is someone with her own planned agenda.

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Old 22nd Jun 2019, 15:18
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“...relationship that won’t last very long”. So, how long will mine last, effluent man? I only ask as you’re clearly an expert on the longevity of relationships between people you’ve never met and don’t know.
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Old 22nd Jun 2019, 15:54
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
I wonder if the spilt wine was the real reason for the row? As we all know from our own relationships a small incident can often be the trigger for a bigger issue simmering in the background.
The woman concerned has been widely credited with smartening Boris up, guiding his appearances and generally making him more presentable as a potential PM. If he doesn't respond to recognise and reward that help in private and in public he will naturally cause some resentment.
Is this the real issue?
Maybe the wine was spilt into the laptop? Could be the common link?
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Old 22nd Jun 2019, 15:57
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Whatever the morality issues raised by Johnson, it's, arguably, more concerning that he has a volatile domestic relationship. That's surely no help to a state of mind when trying to do any job but as Prime Minister...............?
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Old 22nd Jun 2019, 16:14
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BJ has long been known as someone with no morals, a serial philanderer, a liar, someone well-known for repeatedly behaving like a spoiled child and frankly he's wholly unfit for any public office, let alone that of PM. What amazes me is that he seems able to charm people with his buffoon act, even when it's blindingly obvious that he's doing a lousy job.

The problem we have is that Jeremy Hunt is arguably a worse choice for PM, although part of me would like to see the Conservative party choose him as leader, if only to poke BJ in the eye with a metaphorical sharp stick.
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Old 22nd Jun 2019, 16:47
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As we know, the Guardian is held in the highest esteem here on JB........wot ?......well ok, maybe not that high in some cases, however, one would like to show the thoroughness and professionalism that is a hallmark of the UK's most dynamic and......... ( that's enough, you've been out in the sun again haven't you !..Ed )

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...is-johnson-row
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Old 22nd Jun 2019, 16:50
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His former boss Max Hastings, who is not known as a left wing stooge, doesn’t seem over enamoured with his former employee:

“Boris is a gold medal egomaniac… His chaotic public persona is not an act – he is, indeed, manically disorganised about everything except his own image management. He is also a far more ruthless, and frankly nastier, figure than the public appreciates… I would not take Boris’s word about whether it is Monday or Tuesday… He is not a man to believe in, to trust or respect, save as a superlative exhibitionist. He is bereft of judgment, loyalty and discretion. Only in the star-crazed, friviolous Britain of the 21st century could such a man have risen so high, and he is utterly unfit to go higher still.”

But he’s a Brexiteer, so that’s alright then!
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Old 22nd Jun 2019, 16:58
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I like the lack of restraint in Max Hastings' summary of BJ...

What continues to amaze me is why some women are drawn to characters like BJ. During his longest relationship, he seems to have had affairs, one resulting in the lady terminating two pregnancies, another resulting in the birth of a daughter, yet his then wife seems to have stayed with him. His track record as a philanderer must have been clear to his present partner, who it seems he was seeing before he split up with his second wife, so what on earth does she see in him? Perhaps the reported row was an indication that she's beginning to feel that taking up with him was a mistake.
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Old 22nd Jun 2019, 16:59
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The problem we have is that Jeremy Hunt is arguably a worse choice for PM, although part of me would like to see the Conservative party choose him as leader, if only to poke BJ in the eye with a metaphorical sharp stick.
I'm not sure he'd be any better or any worse than any other candidate. Certainly preferable to Corbyn.

My issue with him is that he's the wrong man at the wrong time. He's been described as a male version of Theresa May which is about the last thing we need right now. His Brexit policy seems to be largely based on getting a deal across the line using self-declared negotiating skills; since he is apparently implacably opposed to no-deal my suspicion is that he will end up in the same loop of endless commons votes on different Brexit variants while pleading to the EU for further extensions. And the paralysis will continue.

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What continues to amaze me is why some women are drawn to characters like BJ.
You would have to ask the women! Some of them do some to be drawn to complete cads........

At the end of the day, you can't deny he's got charisma.
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Old 22nd Jun 2019, 17:28
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Charisma you say......well done !...I take it you are referring to the Antonym here ?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/charisma
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Old 22nd Jun 2019, 17:39
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Article here dated 13 June:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...-boris-johnson
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Old 22nd Jun 2019, 18:39
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Max is, of course, one of those remainers who cannot help but insult and foam at the mouth against those who support leave. As those who read his frequent columns in the Telegraph and Spectator will know.

For interest I will paste a small part of an article he wrote before the referendum result was known. I wonder, taking into account the moves to further strengthen the EU zone, he would still publicly say the same. I doubt he would.....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...g-stay-EU.html

.....”I cannot believe the EU, and even more the eurozone, will or should survive in their present form through another decade.

If we remain members, we shall have a voice in seeking an outcome that salvages its best elements, above all the single market, from today's admitted unholy mess. If we leave, we become impotent and bear the odium for the ensuing pile-up.

A few years ago, I heard a speech by one of Germany's foremost industrialists, where he expressed hopes that Britain would remain in the EU, then concluded: 'With the utmost courtesy I would suggest to our British friends that should you leave, you may find it cold out there.'

Partly because I often visit the U.S., and know how little influence we command in its high places except as a partner in Europe, I believe that German was right. As a citizen, I am willing to give the British Government, and its support for the EU, just one more chance. I suspect that enough others will do likewise to secure a Remain vote next month.

David Cameron should show statesmanship enough to treat such a victory as a beginning, not an end. It has become both important and symbolic to escape from the bondage of the hopelessly outdated European Convention on Human Rights, even though that is nothing to do with Brussels.

And if the EU itself does not change profoundly, or if the eurozone defies gravity by pursuing a mad march towards political unity, there will surely be another British referendum within a decade. In such an event, the Leavers would likely win . . . and deserve to.”........


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Old 22nd Jun 2019, 20:03
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PrOOne and YT - indeed, I repeat the same old complaint. Why, because I'm fed up with people who quote meaningless terms to try to justify a viewpoint. Ask 15 different people on this forum alone, and you'll get 15 different answers - yet it (democracy) is STILL used as the basis for justifying a demonstrable failure of 'natural justice'. If the basis for action is "don't confuse me with the facts, I've made my mind up" - just say so ... much less hypocrisy involved!
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