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Old 13th Jun 2019, 07:10
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Sadly we don't have any morally defensible candidates to choose from, its a reflection of society as a whole.
We are living in the age of the Narcissist, the inevitable end result of Corporate capitalism
While I kind of agree, I don't like the inevitable end result in communist dictatorship any better.
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Old 13th Jun 2019, 07:51
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What puzzles me is why they are all making public presentations to the media, opening themselves up to public scrutiny and humiliation. All they really need to do is convince their other MPs that they are the one.

"Back me and I'll make you a minister'
" Back me and you can keep your job"
"Stab me in the back again and be banished until next time"

Only the last two need to bare all.
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Old 13th Jun 2019, 08:02
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
What puzzles me is why they are all making public presentations to the media, opening themselves up to public scrutiny and humiliation. All they really need to do is convince their other MPs that they are the one.

"Back me and I'll make you a minister'
" Back me and you can keep your job"
"Stab me in the back again and be banished until next time"

Only the last two need to bare all.
Possibly, and strange though this may seem to you, perhaps the public have a decidedly vested interest as to whom may become the next PM ?......and their intentions if selected.

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Old 13th Jun 2019, 10:31
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What’s your point? No party leaders -including your beloved Mr Corbyn are chosen by public vote.
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Old 13th Jun 2019, 10:53
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What’s your point? No party leaders -including your beloved Mr Corbyn are chosen by public vote.
Never said they were, however, you seem to have missed the rather pertinent point, that, in this case the selected candidate will become the next PM and therefore the public have a very justified reason for scrutiny ...unless you prefer not to know their intentions of course, in which case, it will be a bit late after their selection to start complaining .
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Sadly we don't have any morally defensible candidates to choose from, its a reflection of society as a whole.
We are living in the age of the Narcissist, the inevitable end result of Corporate capitalism
While I kind of agree, I don't like the inevitable end result in communist dictatorship any better.

I dont think the alternative to Boris is a communist dictator ship but it has to be the lowest moment in the history of the Uk that a man like Johnson a liar, fraud, cheat and total incompetent could get elected
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Old 13th Jun 2019, 12:12
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BBC News - Three contenders - Mark Harper, Andrea Leadsom and Esther McVey - have been knocked out in the secret ballot held in the House of Commons.
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Old 13th Jun 2019, 15:13
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When I first saw this thread, I figured it had got away from Friday Jokes. Sadly, no. As far as I am concerned, 'none of the above' - and that not limited to any of the parties!
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Old 13th Jun 2019, 16:33
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post
Never said they were, however, you seem to have missed the rather pertinent point, that, in this case the selected candidate will become the next PM and therefore the public have a very justified reason for scrutiny ...unless you prefer not to know their intentions of course, in which case, it will be a bit late after their selection to start complaining .
Although I can't quite believe that I am reacting to a post by our Krystal, he himself seems "to have missed the rather pertinent point" that the statement above should equally have applied in respect of the election of Mr Corbyn - as leader of the Labour Party I hasten to add!

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Old 13th Jun 2019, 16:44
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Originally Posted by Union Jack View Post
Although I can't quite believe that I am reacting to a post by our Krystal, he himself seems "to have missed the rather pertinent point" that the statement above should equally have applied in respect of the election of Mr Corbyn - as leader of the Labour Party I hasten to add!

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Unfortunately, your comparison is flawed.

Given the very public demise and departure of Treeza, and Boris making no secret of his aspirations over the years, plus a few more who see this as their very own "Opportunity Knocks " allied to a dysfunctional Gov't per se, then it's perfectly reasonable, and expected by the public for the selection process and candidates to be subjected to the deepest scrutiny possible.

What would you prefer ?......something like the random selection for the FA Cup draw or the whole process to be conducted in complete secrecy with the winner announced as a fait accompli and sod the electorate ?
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Old 13th Jun 2019, 17:54
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post
Unfortunately, your comparison is flawed.

Given the very public demise and departure of Treeza, and Boris making no secret of his aspirations over the years, plus a few more who see this as their very own "Opportunity Knocks " allied to a dysfunctional Gov't per se, then it's perfectly reasonable, and expected by the public for the selection process and candidates to be subjected to the deepest scrutiny possible.
With apologies to the Bard, "The laddie doth protest too much, methinks", since yet again he appears to have missed the point since, given "his aspirations over the years", and using the same principle, Mr Corbyn should equally have been "subjected to the deepest scrutiny possible."

Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post
What would you prefer ?......something like the random selection for the FA Cup draw or the whole process to be conducted in complete secrecy with the winner announced as a fait accompli and sod the electorate ?
Now you're being fanciful, which rather sweetly suggests that there may even be a soft side to that hard crystalline exterior!

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Old 13th Jun 2019, 21:08
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I fear that we may have to bow to the inevitable and accept that Bonkers Boris will be the next PM. If this happens it'll be a toss up as to whether the USA retains the top spot as having a complete buffoon in the top job, or whether that title will pass to the UK.

The flip side is that none of the potential candidates stands out as being competent to do the job, which may well be why BJ seems to be doing so well.

How on earth have we ended up with so many politicians that are a complete waste of space?
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Old 13th Jun 2019, 21:31
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Perhaps not when compared to the EU which is politically 'living in an interesting time' and may yet start to unravel.
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Old 13th Jun 2019, 21:38
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How on earth have we ended up with so many politicians that are a complete waste of space?
You pay peanuts, you get monkeys.....

Any one with the competence to do the job is earning mega bucks in the private sector.
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Old 13th Jun 2019, 21:42
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If I may be permitted to make the point that the public have no say in the election of the next leader of the Conservative Party. Who becomes the next Prime Minister will be decided solely by members of the Conservative Party of at least three months standing. So any public debate or questioning of any candidate's credentials is a bit pointless, except as a futile attempt to influence people who have most probably already arrived at a firm decision.

Boris Johnson is the clear favourite and the Premiership is his to lose at the moment.
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Old 13th Jun 2019, 22:47
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I had originally something to say. You know something worthy, something relevant. Something witty.

But Boris Johnson is about to become Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.

Stop, think for a moment. Boris Johnson.

The country of Gladstone, Disraeli, Lord Wellington, Churchill, Atlee, Thatcher, Wilson, yes Blair.

Johnson. Britain a buffoon.

Oh dear.




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Old 13th Jun 2019, 23:35
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I've just read what Max Hastings said. Gasp.

But why then did he employ Boris for so long?
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Old 14th Jun 2019, 01:01
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Originally Posted by VP959 View Post
How on earth have we ended up with so many politicians that are a complete waste of space?
Would you like to swap the whole set for ours? (Oz that is)

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Old 14th Jun 2019, 01:03
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Originally Posted by WB627 View Post
You pay peanuts, you get monkeys.....

Any one with the competence to do the job is earning mega bucks in the private sector.
Eh? Isn't that the alternative that the U.S. chose?
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Old 14th Jun 2019, 01:12
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Originally Posted by VP959 View Post
How on earth have we ended up with so many politicians that are a complete waste of space?
It all started when politics became a profession.
It got worse when the prime pre-requisite to enter the profession became a law degree.

It got worse still when the lawyers attracted to this new profession were generally the ones who couldn't make it in either private or corporate practice.

A classic case of people who don't know how to manage a system deciding that they know how to design one.
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