Borris next PM?
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Originally Posted by Hyperdark
Sadly we don't have any morally defensible candidates to choose from, its a reflection of society as a whole.
We are living in the age of the Narcissist, the inevitable end result of Corporate capitalism
We are living in the age of the Narcissist, the inevitable end result of Corporate capitalism
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
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What puzzles me is why they are all making public presentations to the media, opening themselves up to public scrutiny and humiliation. All they really need to do is convince their other MPs that they are the one.
"Back me and I'll make you a minister'
" Back me and you can keep your job"
"Stab me in the back again and be banished until next time"
Only the last two need to bare all.
"Back me and I'll make you a minister'
" Back me and you can keep your job"
"Stab me in the back again and be banished until next time"
Only the last two need to bare all.
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator
What puzzles me is why they are all making public presentations to the media, opening themselves up to public scrutiny and humiliation. All they really need to do is convince their other MPs that they are the one.
"Back me and I'll make you a minister'
" Back me and you can keep your job"
"Stab me in the back again and be banished until next time"
Only the last two need to bare all.
"Back me and I'll make you a minister'
" Back me and you can keep your job"
"Stab me in the back again and be banished until next time"
Only the last two need to bare all.
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Originally Posted by ShotOne
What’s your point? No party leaders -including your beloved Mr Corbyn are chosen by public vote.
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Sadly we don't have any morally defensible candidates to choose from, its a reflection of society as a whole.
We are living in the age of the Narcissist, the inevitable end result of Corporate capitalism
While I kind of agree, I don't like the inevitable end result in communist dictatorship any better.
I dont think the alternative to Boris is a communist dictator ship but it has to be the lowest moment in the history of the Uk that a man like Johnson a liar, fraud, cheat and total incompetent could get elected
We are living in the age of the Narcissist, the inevitable end result of Corporate capitalism
While I kind of agree, I don't like the inevitable end result in communist dictatorship any better.
I dont think the alternative to Boris is a communist dictator ship but it has to be the lowest moment in the history of the Uk that a man like Johnson a liar, fraud, cheat and total incompetent could get elected
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When I first saw this thread, I figured it had got away from Friday Jokes. Sadly, no. As far as I am concerned, 'none of the above' - and that not limited to any of the parties!
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips
Never said they were, however, you seem to have missed the rather pertinent point, that, in this case the selected candidate will become the next PM and therefore the public have a very justified reason for scrutiny ...unless you prefer not to know their intentions of course, in which case, it will be a bit late after their selection to start complaining .
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Originally Posted by Union Jack
Although I can't quite believe that I am reacting to a post by our Krystal, he himself seems "to have missed the rather pertinent point" that the statement above should equally have applied in respect of the election of Mr Corbyn - as leader of the Labour Party I hasten to add!
Jack
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Given the very public demise and departure of Treeza, and Boris making no secret of his aspirations over the years, plus a few more who see this as their very own "Opportunity Knocks " allied to a dysfunctional Gov't per se, then it's perfectly reasonable, and expected by the public for the selection process and candidates to be subjected to the deepest scrutiny possible.
What would you prefer ?......something like the random selection for the FA Cup draw or the whole process to be conducted in complete secrecy with the winner announced as a fait accompli and sod the electorate ?
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips
Unfortunately, your comparison is flawed.
Given the very public demise and departure of Treeza, and Boris making no secret of his aspirations over the years, plus a few more who see this as their very own "Opportunity Knocks " allied to a dysfunctional Gov't per se, then it's perfectly reasonable, and expected by the public for the selection process and candidates to be subjected to the deepest scrutiny possible.
Given the very public demise and departure of Treeza, and Boris making no secret of his aspirations over the years, plus a few more who see this as their very own "Opportunity Knocks " allied to a dysfunctional Gov't per se, then it's perfectly reasonable, and expected by the public for the selection process and candidates to be subjected to the deepest scrutiny possible.
Originally Posted by Krystal n chips
What would you prefer ?......something like the random selection for the FA Cup draw or the whole process to be conducted in complete secrecy with the winner announced as a fait accompli and sod the electorate ?
Jack
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I fear that we may have to bow to the inevitable and accept that Bonkers Boris will be the next PM. If this happens it'll be a toss up as to whether the USA retains the top spot as having a complete buffoon in the top job, or whether that title will pass to the UK.
The flip side is that none of the potential candidates stands out as being competent to do the job, which may well be why BJ seems to be doing so well.
How on earth have we ended up with so many politicians that are a complete waste of space?
The flip side is that none of the potential candidates stands out as being competent to do the job, which may well be why BJ seems to be doing so well.
How on earth have we ended up with so many politicians that are a complete waste of space?
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Originally Posted by VP959
How on earth have we ended up with so many politicians that are a complete waste of space?
Any one with the competence to do the job is earning mega bucks in the private sector.
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If I may be permitted to make the point that the public have no say in the election of the next leader of the Conservative Party. Who becomes the next Prime Minister will be decided solely by members of the Conservative Party of at least three months standing. So any public debate or questioning of any candidate's credentials is a bit pointless, except as a futile attempt to influence people who have most probably already arrived at a firm decision.
Boris Johnson is the clear favourite and the Premiership is his to lose at the moment.
Boris Johnson is the clear favourite and the Premiership is his to lose at the moment.
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I had originally something to say. You know something worthy, something relevant. Something witty.
But Boris Johnson is about to become Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.
Stop, think for a moment. Boris Johnson.
The country of Gladstone, Disraeli, Lord Wellington, Churchill, Atlee, Thatcher, Wilson, yes Blair.
Johnson. Britain a buffoon.
Oh dear.
But Boris Johnson is about to become Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.
Stop, think for a moment. Boris Johnson.
The country of Gladstone, Disraeli, Lord Wellington, Churchill, Atlee, Thatcher, Wilson, yes Blair.
Johnson. Britain a buffoon.
Oh dear.
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Originally Posted by WB627
You pay peanuts, you get monkeys.....
Any one with the competence to do the job is earning mega bucks in the private sector.
Any one with the competence to do the job is earning mega bucks in the private sector.
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Originally Posted by VP959
How on earth have we ended up with so many politicians that are a complete waste of space?
It got worse when the prime pre-requisite to enter the profession became a law degree.
It got worse still when the lawyers attracted to this new profession were generally the ones who couldn't make it in either private or corporate practice.
A classic case of people who don't know how to manage a system deciding that they know how to design one.
