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Old 14th Aug 2019, 19:00
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Why weren't they all at work on a Tuesday morning?
Maybe because they don't work?
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Old 14th Aug 2019, 19:50
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Maybe, just maybe, they are over-reacting
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Old 16th Aug 2019, 16:07
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Like they did in Oz a while back about the Great Barrier Reef which now seems to have miraculously recovered
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Old 17th Aug 2019, 07:01
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Is anyone at all surprised? It has, after all, only been a PR stunt.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/g...seem-6fsn5sbpz

Greta Thunberg’s yacht trip to New York not as green as it may seem

Greta Thunberg’s decision to cross the Atlantic in a “zero-carbon yacht” may generate more emissions than it saves because of flights taken by the crew.

The 16-year-old Swedish climate change activist, who left Plymouth aboard Malizia II on Wednesday on a two-week voyage to New York, where she will speak at a UN climate change meeting, had vowed not to fly to cut her carbon footprint and set an example. However, Team Malizia, which operates the 60ft yacht, said two of her crew would be flying to New York to bring the yacht back to Europe. In addition, the two sailors travelling across the Atlantic with Greta and her father, Svante, an actor, may fly home, a spokeswoman said.

Boris Herrmann, the skipper, and Pierre Casiraghi, the nephew of Prince Albert of Monaco and grandson of the late Prince Ranier III of Monaco and Princess Grace, have yet to book flights home but the likelihood is that they may fly, the spokeswoman said.

“We added the trip to New York City at very short notice, and as a result two people will need to fly over to the US in order to bring the boat back,” she said.

“All Team Malizia flights are offset. We recognise this is an imperfect solution. But, in addition to our ocean science programme, we are inspired by Greta and we wanted to help her on this journey. The world has not yet found a way to make it possible to cross an ocean without a carbon footprint.”.........
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Old 17th Aug 2019, 08:04
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Not only that, but the thing is made of composites (plastic) and used a heck of a lot of energy, with the resultant CO2 generation etc, when it was manufactured, and it will never cover enough miles to be as energy efficient as a commercial aircraft, in terms of paying back the CO2 debt incurred during its construction.

It's a publicity stunt, that is aimed to show her as being far more virtuous than she really is. If she was serious about making a low environmental impact transatlantic trip she could have opted to use an older, wooden sailing boat, where at least most of the embodied CO2 remains locked up in the structure (but even that would probably have had plastic sails and ropes).

Perhaps someone needs to point out that the yacht she's sailing on will be polluting the ocean with tiny microscopic particles of plastics that come from the ropes and sails as a part of the natural wear process of these.
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Old 17th Aug 2019, 08:13
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Why not just a video conference connection from her home to the UN? That's what business is told to do to avoid travel.

Still don't understand why if the UN want to talk about a climate emergency they bring a 16 year old school kid to talk to them rather than the professionals who will actually be dealing with the issues.
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Old 17th Aug 2019, 13:31
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Still don't understand why if the UN want to talk about a climate emergency they bring a 16 year old school kid to talk to them rather than the professionals who will actually be dealing with the issues.
Because it provides lots of free publicity?
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Old 17th Aug 2019, 15:23
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Because it provides lots of free publicity?
Ah, that'll be for the film, book or TV series that is no doubt in the planning surrounding this trip, just in time for the Xmas shopping cycle. Someone is paying for this circus and I doubt any planet saving motives.
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Old 17th Aug 2019, 18:58
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Should the yacht (which is made from non eco friendly carbon fibre, GRP, poly-aramid, perspex etc. etc. ) get into trouble, will the rescue services launch a carbon neutral wooden rowing boat ? I wonder how the 16 year old would react to being told that help was on the way but at a speed which minimised the impact on the environment.

If there are a total of four flights being taken by others just to get her there, what is the cost of the circus being arranged to bring her back ? Perhaps she can build a raft out of driftwood and hitch a lift on the gulf stream.
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Old 18th Aug 2019, 12:39
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The Sunday Times has finally caught up on the money behind the circus and reprinted Dominic Green's Standpoint article from earlier this year.

Regardless of the accuracy of the article, our political elite continue to fall over themselves to be associated with Greta and her team. Lunatics and asylum come to mind, p!ss up and brewery, etc.
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Old 18th Aug 2019, 22:59
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Operation 'Dumbing down the population' has succeeded beyond its wildest dreams!
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Old 18th Aug 2019, 23:02
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The Midwich Cuckoos

Whenever I see Greta Thunberg on TV she reminds me of the alien children in John Wyndham's 1950s sci-fi classic 'The Midwich Cuckoos', later filmed as 'The Village of the Damned'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Midwich_Cuckoos

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Old 19th Aug 2019, 11:41
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A very scary but accurate observation.

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With you all the way, 1000 years is a blink of an eye for the planet . Yes make better use of Earths resource, but I still believe ultimately solar activity has a larger effect on climate, not to mention when we have the next very large Volcano like Krakatoa.
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Old 19th Aug 2019, 13:13
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DavidReidUK,
if I've misunderstood the basis of your objection to wind farms, perhaps you could explain it ?
My apologies for not responding - but others since have educated you nicely.

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Old 20th Aug 2019, 10:04
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Originally Posted by Grayfly View Post
Why not just a video conference connection from her home to the UN? That's what business is told to do to avoid travel.

Still don't understand why if the UN want to talk about a climate emergency they bring a 16 year old school kid to talk to them rather than the professionals who will actually be dealing with the issues.
Virtue signalling. Easier to impress the attention deficient hard of thinking on social media with flashy memes and publicity stunts than actually burn out their collective cortex with boring old science and facts.

As a species, we're pretty much fooked when substance takes a back seat to style.
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Old 29th Aug 2019, 15:03
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NASA claim global fire area in km2 has reduced by 25% since 2003 when satellite data started.
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Old 20th Sep 2019, 11:52
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Anyone feel like this today??


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Old 20th Sep 2019, 12:15
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Originally Posted by Grayfly View Post
The Sunday Times has finally caught up on the money behind the circus and reprinted Dominic Green's Standpoint article from earlier this year.

Regardless of the accuracy of the article, our political elite continue to fall over themselves to be associated with Greta and her team. Lunatics and asylum come to mind, p!ss up and brewery, etc.
Much as I think we ought to be concerned about our effect on the climate I'm very uneasy about the whole "Greta" circus, the fascination with her as an individual...

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Old 20th Sep 2019, 12:39
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wiggy; that sums it up perfectly for me! Greta the one who sees CO2...…
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Old 20th Sep 2019, 13:45
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Teenager gets to go on an adventure that many teenagers would give their right arm for, given the opportunity. Fine, very happy for her. Now let's move on.

Back to school people, do the next "protest" on a weekend.
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