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Old 16th Apr 2019, 06:37
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Originally Posted by rotornut View Post
What is the threshold for legal aid in criminal matters in the UK? Here in Ontario you can't get legal aid unless the Crown is seeking a custodial sentence.
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Old 16th Apr 2019, 10:17
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Thanks PDR1 you should try Facebook for blowing comments out of all proportion.
Where was it mentioned about lynch mobs?

The public are not happy with allowing a dual national back into the UK who actively supports a load of murderous crackpots.
The Government listened...hardly a lynching.
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Old 16th Apr 2019, 10:47
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Originally Posted by Spunky Monkey View Post
The Government listened...hardly a lynching.
It's funny, isn't it. When they don't listen, they're out of touch. When they do listen, they're playing to the gallery.....

With some people, you just can't win.
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Old 16th Apr 2019, 12:49
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Originally Posted by Spunky Monkey View Post
Thanks PDR1 you should try Facebook for blowing comments out of all proportion.
Where was it mentioned about lynch mobs?

The public are not happy with allowing a dual national back into the UK who actively supports a load of murderous crackpots.
The Government listened...hardly a lynching.
Lynch Mob Justice means giving in to the baying of the mob rather than supporting the rule of law. You would plainly be at home in the mob.

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Old 16th Apr 2019, 13:05
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Where and how, exactly, has the rule of law not been upheld in this case?
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Old 16th Apr 2019, 15:39
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Originally Posted by Andy_S View Post
Where and how, exactly, has the rule of law not been upheld in this case?
If you follow the quotes back you will find I was responding to Spunkey Monkey's suggestion:

Originally Posted by Spunkey Monkey
How about the Government removing Citizenship due to public outcry,
To remove citizenship solely on the basis of "public outcry" is lynch-mob justice rather than applying the rule of law.

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Old 16th Apr 2019, 16:38
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As a one-person "mob" , I am simply not persuaded that my taxes should be spent in the form of legal aid on this person.

A woman cannot get legal aid for a divorce. This person divorced herself from the UK, now wants to end the divorce and come back to the UK.

Not persuaded.
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Old 16th Apr 2019, 17:49
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If a woman is involved in a non amicable divorce she is allowed to draw on the family assets and the assets of her husband to fund a legal team of similar scale to that fielded by her husband. So if you want to view this as a divorce then she should be entitled to have UK State-funded solicitors and barristers of equal cost, rank and status as those fielded by the government.

So that argument is fatuous

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Old 16th Apr 2019, 18:04
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We know where she is and we have special forces.
she joined a “war” make her a casualty of it
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Old 16th Apr 2019, 18:12
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We know where she is and we have special forces.
she joined a “war” make her a casualty of it
No, that's wrong. Bring her back, prosecute, see what a jury decides.
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Old 17th Apr 2019, 05:42
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Allow a govt to do that and then they will open it up and decide we can do it whenever we want, against who we want and for whatever reason we want.
Pure supposition on your part racedo, not a shred of evidence to support your stand. Why are you so angry with legitimate authority?
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Old 17th Apr 2019, 16:19
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Originally Posted by parabellum View Post
Pure supposition on your part racedo, not a shred of evidence to support your stand. Why are you so angry with legitimate authority?
Guess I just look at history and see Govts giving themselves more and more powers and anybody questioning that power grab is then seen as a threat to the state that must be monitored, censored, silenced or dealt with.
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Old 17th Apr 2019, 16:45
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Guess I just look at history and see Govts giving themselves more and more powers and anybody questioning that power grab is then seen as a threat to the state that must be monitored, censored, silenced or dealt with.
You're not talking about Russia by any chance?
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Old 17th Apr 2019, 16:54
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You're not talking about Russia by any chance?
Think a closer look at home would be a better idea.

Everybody wants to blame the bogeyman as being somewhere else because the media tell you that.

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Old 18th Apr 2019, 06:56
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Originally Posted by racedo View Post
Think a closer look at home would be a better idea.

Everybody wants to blame the bogeyman as being somewhere else because the media tell you that.
So Russia has never monitored, censored, silenced or 'dealt with' anyone who challenged it's authority. Is that what you're saying? Or is it that you choose to look the other way?
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Old 18th Apr 2019, 13:26
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I suspect racedo is suggesting HMG is the bogeyman
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Old 18th Apr 2019, 14:01
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Originally Posted by Harley Quinn View Post
I suspect racedo is suggesting HMG is the bogeyman
All Govts are the same but when authority challenged and Govt uses its security forces against the people, how many occasions are said forces brought to trial quickly for acting against the people.

Pretending it is always some other country is always the get out of people not willing to question what their Govt do. The rights they remove from people who protest today are the ones they will remove from you next week.
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Old 18th Apr 2019, 16:53
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Originally Posted by racedo View Post
All Govts are the same but when authority challenged and Govt uses its security forces against the people, how many occasions are said forces brought to trial quickly for acting against the people.

Pretending it is always some other country is always the get out of people not willing to question what their Govt do. The rights they remove from people who protest today are the ones they will remove from you next week.
I absolutely take your point on that, but you don't discuss what the challenge to authority is. The UK has, on the whole, a tolerant attitude to protest, as long as it remains peaceful. If the protest is not peaceful though, then protesters should be aware. The UK has made mistakes in the past, and we both know that. Would it be possible to allow the past to remain in the past, or are you going to maintain the enmity because my grandaddy had a bigger stick than your grandaddy?
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Old 18th Apr 2019, 21:27
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Originally Posted by Harley Quinn View Post
I absolutely take your point on that, but you don't discuss what the challenge to authority is. The UK has, on the whole, a tolerant attitude to protest, as long as it remains peaceful. If the protest is not peaceful though, then protesters should be aware. The UK has made mistakes in the past, and we both know that. Would it be possible to allow the past to remain in the past, or are you going to maintain the enmity because my grandaddy had a bigger stick than your grandaddy?
Ok if we deal sprecifically with UK.

Has UK Govt relinguished any powers over population in last 50 years or have they brought more in for control.

Taking away a citizenship with zero right to legally question is what USSR used to do, yes we have had internal exile in UK in recent memory but forceful removal of citizenship is something I don't support,

Once Govt get given a power they never relinguish it and we have seen power used against people.

If people could trust the Govt to work for the people then nothing to worry about but they never are, the work for their paymasters and the voters aren't their paymasters.
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Old 18th Apr 2019, 23:02
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She's an unrepentant ISIS fellow traveller. She will rot in her Islamic state hell forever. There is no way she will return to Britain.
She made her choice.
In previous years she'd be hanged for her treachery.





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