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Old 1st Apr 2019, 17:40
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Marilyn Monroe - theories please.

Because I happen to be reading Goddess: The Secret Lives of Marilyn Monroe by Anthony Summers and that coincidentally the family name of one of her alleged lovers has come up in the anti vexxers thread, I just wondered what you theorists on JB had about her all too early demise.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4655618/

This documentary offered evidence that she was in so many prescription drugs that she became confused and accidentally overdosed, which seems quite credible. She also had a history of suicide attempts or do you believe the more sinister stories?
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Old 1st Apr 2019, 18:02
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Because I happen to be reading Goddess: The Secret Lives of Marilyn Monroe by Anthony Summers and that coincidentally the family name of one of her alleged lovers has come up in the anti vexxers thread, I just wondered what you theorists on JB had about her all too early demise.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4655618/

This documentary offered evidence that she was in so many prescription drugs that she became confused and accidentally overdosed, which seems quite credible. She also had a history of suicide attempts or do you believe the more sinister stories?
I'd be glad to if you would cite one
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Old 1st Apr 2019, 19:19
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It doesn't matter.
She was cute and to this day, has left many searing impressions.
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Someone pointed out in the pictures where she is seen dead on the bed there are no glasses of water to be seen, that would be needed to swill down the pills.
How many people would take pills without water.
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Old 1st Apr 2019, 21:43
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Someone pointed out in the pictures where she is seen dead on the bed there are no glasses of water to be seen, that would be needed to swill down the pills.
How many people would take pills without water.
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I usually take the pills in the kitchen with a glass of water and then go to the lounge and watch more adverts. Its a very slow death.
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 06:39
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Originally Posted by lomapaseo View Post
I'd be glad to if you would cite one
Oh, that the Kennedys did it to prevent embarassment to "Camelot", possibly requesting help from a mob boss for a hit. Or that the self-same mob boss arranged it out of jealously. Toss in some "Bay of Pigs" or "Grassy Knoll" mob or FBI/CIA-linked fantasies as well.

Realistically, her life was a mess. Health problems (endometriosis and miscarriages, gallstones, alcohol and other drugs, stint in a mental ward for depression after one surgery), romantic - umm - complexities, career problems (a royal pain on the set, although with careful direction and many takes, she could put out decent performances). Her last two completed films were not commercial successes, and she'd been fired from a third (for too many absences) 2 months before her death.

And - a bigger issue in 1962 than perhaps it would be today, especially for a sex-kitten "role" - she was pushing up against the big 4-0.

"Men grow cold as girls grow old
And we all lose our charms in the end
But square cut or pear shape these rocks don't lose there shape
Diamonds are a girl's best friend...."


I could just about buy "accidental" - but I think she was just staring into an abyss she didn't think she could beat...
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 07:49
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I think she was so messed up in the end, emotionally and on uppers and downers that she didn't know what she was doing.
Real deliberate suicide with the firm intention of dying I doubt. So confusion as to how many she had taken or a parasuicide (cry for help) seems the most likely. But we'll never know and in the end it doesn't matter.

But she had something quite unique (see Bert Stern's final photoshoot before her death)

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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 08:00
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I don't think I'd ever actually seen a Marilyn Monroe film and while certainly gorgeous, she's not quite my kind of girl. Then I watched a video on YouTube last night, song and dance routine in a cable stitch jumper and not much else... mmmmmm. 50 years wasted...
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The biography I’m reading suggested MM was having an affair with RFK and that mafia boss, Sam Giancana, had compromising photos of them together. RFK had his sights on the presidency and that she was becoming a liability and was so emotionally unstable that he couldn’t risk her disclosing details of their relationship.

Strangely, history records JFK as the serial womaniser but RFK as more of a family man and a devout Catholic.
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MM died from a barbiturate overdose. That much is fact. The overdose was very likely, but not certainly, suicide. Could someone else have been involved in the overdose, making it murder? Maybe. But since all the parties are now long dead its rather moot.
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 12:58
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Really don't care whether it was suicide or murder, sad fact is she died.

I however happily remember her as a STAR I have seen in movies. The fact she died young, means we remember her as she WAS, not what she could have become in later life.

57 years after she died at age 36 we are still talking of her and she is still the standard that others need to match and few have even got close.

In 2076, when everybody on here will have shifted on from their mortal coil, is there anybody acting today that future generations will look at and saw WOW, What a girl.

Thanks MM for the memories of what you were. We still love you.
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