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Old 26th Mar 2019, 21:26
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EU Kills the Internet

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Remainers scoffed when Guido warned them that the EU was banning memes last year. They’re not laughing now the European Parliament has passed the final law to approve the ban with minimal changes. 348 MEPs you’ve never heard of overruled 278 MEPs you’ve also probably never heard of.

It’s hard to overstate just how damaging Article 13 will be to the internet, it does not just kill memes, it will force all online publishers to filter any material that could potentially be copyrighted, from pictures and short snippets of music to funny GIFs. The similarly worrying Article 11 requiring websites to pay news websites for every article shared on them has also been passed.

Anyone in the EU can kiss goodbye to the free and open internet as we know it…

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/m...ives-in-charge

From the Momo Challenge to Porn Laws, We Clearly Need Digital Natives in Charge
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Old 26th Mar 2019, 21:57
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I do so luuurve the ever increasing shrillness of the #brexshitters' rising panic.
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Old 26th Mar 2019, 23:08
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And now the EU have KILLED summer time!!!
Is there no end to the slaughter ?
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Old 27th Mar 2019, 00:25
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They'll be banning fake news next. Killjoys.
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Old 27th Mar 2019, 03:45
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I believe that they have all forgotten that
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Old 27th Mar 2019, 04:33
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Al Gore will surely like to have a chat with the EU for killing his baby.
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Old 27th Mar 2019, 12:51
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If it can't be openly forbidden, banned or killed, just regulate and tax it to death.
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Old 27th Mar 2019, 19:11
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Originally Posted by Gertrude the Wombat View Post
I do so luuurve the ever increasing shrillness of the #brexshitters' rising panic.
Wow. There are actually people who cannot see the death of free speech on the internet in the EU. You Leftists get what you deserve. Sadly (and alarmingly) the same Leftists are gaining power here in the US. All the more reason for us to help fight the rising Leftist power on your side of the pond.

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Old 27th Mar 2019, 20:06
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Binary people are adorable.
Yeah, just as adorable as the "binary people" in 1930s Berlin who were warning about the proclivities of the newly appointed Fuhrer. Now you've got a whole bunch of appointed Fuhrers in Brussels. People never learn.
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Old 27th Mar 2019, 20:26
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I'm sick and tired of remainers being so obnoxious, offensive and predictable. By all means campaign, but using excrement as a generic term for anyone that doesn't agree with their views wears a bit thin, especially when this offensive expletive is just uttered at any and every opportunity, even on a topic unassociated with the UK EU referendum.

As for the EU regulation, it's just pointless, as anyone that routinely uses a VPN will remain unaffected by it, and all that will likely happen is even more people will start using a VPN (which is the same technique used to defeat similarly draconian attempts to prohibit free speech, in places like China).
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Old 27th Mar 2019, 21:42
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I very much doubt anyone in the EU gives a shit regarding a funny MEME or a GIF of a cat dancing, its when you steal content and make a lot of money from it then the EU legislation will step in. Youtube is the wild west and it not fun when your stuff is stolen and another individual making a ton of money on your hard work.
True a VPN will hide your IP address but not your youtube channel ID.
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Old 27th Mar 2019, 22:49
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Originally Posted by Gertrude the Wombat View Post
I do so luuurve the ever increasing shrillness of the #brexshitters' rising panic.
As much as we better behaved brexiteers deplore the self serving disregard of the remoaners for the the majority vote to leave the power crazy EU?, I think perhaps not.
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Old 28th Mar 2019, 09:13
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True a VPN will hide your IP address but not your youtube channel ID.
But you have no need of a YouTube ID. I don't have one, and it still works fine. It's easy enough to stay incognito when using services like YouTube, and in many ways it makes things better, as you then don't get drawn into a bubble where the damned thing only offers up things on the basis of something else you've viewed.

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Old 28th Mar 2019, 10:56
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Originally Posted by DroneDog View Post
I very much doubt anyone in the EU gives a shit regarding a funny MEME or a GIF of a cat dancing, its when you steal content and make a lot of money from it then the EU legislation will step in. Youtube is the wild west and it not fun when your stuff is stolen and another individual making a ton of money on your hard work.
True a VPN will hide your IP address but not your youtube channel ID.
That's how I see it. The web is an open invitation to theft and it's time something was done, if something can be done which seems rather doubtful at the moment. Whether the EU proposal is the answer remains to be seen.

As for YT, I've used it for years, latterly with a VPN and other precautions for privacy, but I thought channels were only for content providers. I've never found the need to log in.
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Old 28th Mar 2019, 11:19
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That's how I see it. The web is an open invitation to theft and it's time something was done, if something can be done which seems rather doubtful at the moment. Whether the EU proposal is the answer remains to be seen.

As for YT, I've used it for years, latterly with a VPN and other precautions for privacy, but I thought channels were only for content providers. I've never found the need to log in.
From the beginning of the world wide web, users were under the impression that everything is free and you can just copy stuff, like music, video, porn, whatever. That there maybe artists or producers behind these, who, completely surprisingly, have to pay invoices too does not cross the mind of a lot of people. They all hopped onto the outrage bus driven by youtube and others...
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Old 28th Mar 2019, 13:22
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So the logical consequence for all the platforms would simply be to stop being accessible from the EU countries. Shut everything down which "may" have protected content for a couple of days and see what happens. Which basically means all social media, all platforms for hosting pictures, all plattforms where a remote possibility exists that copyrighted content may be misused. What remains? Not a whole lot.

The main thing will be that most platforms will want (need) to cover their back sides as this regulation will open the door for just about every lawyer who has nothing better to do than sue for each and every clip which may have copyrighted material. Which, if you look at it carefully, will be every single clip, every single wiki article and lots of forums as well who allow pictures to be posted. So no more photographs or pictures as one stolen one may ruin a forum operator. So the only way out of that is to make darn sure that nobody in the EU can see the things at all.

Must admit, it's gonna be boring without youtube and so on. Particularly as most TV channels are not viewable anymore with all the sewage they try to sell as programming.

The other variant will be that Youtube and others will try to pay off the legal vultures and then be allowed to operate like now but against substantial payment, the proceedings of which will end up most probably in the EU's pocket rather then in those it would belong if any.
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Old 28th Mar 2019, 13:40
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Not to mention the fact that the voting list that MEPs were given was changed at a late stage, so that at least 13 MEPs inadvertently voted the wrong way to approve the measure, and now the commission say the result is final and cannot be rerun. But that's EU democracy at work.
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Old 28th Mar 2019, 13:46
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Originally Posted by Fitter2 View Post
Not to mention the fact that the voting list that MEPs were given was changed at a late stage, so that at least 13 MEPs inadvertently voted the wrong way to approve the measure, and now the commission say the result is final and cannot be rerun. But that's EU democracy at work.
Perhaps they have been learning from the wonderful example of our own parliamentary procedures.
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Old 28th Mar 2019, 14:26
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Originally Posted by AN2 Driver View Post
So the logical consequence for all the platforms would simply be to stop being accessible from the EU countries. Shut everything down which "may" have protected content for a couple of days and see what happens. Which basically means all social media, all platforms for hosting pictures, all plattforms where a remote possibility exists that copyrighted content may be misused. What remains? Not a whole lot.
Would be a great social experiment. Shut the lot down for a week and see what happens. Gets my vote.

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Old 28th Mar 2019, 14:43
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Originally Posted by Fitter2
Not to mention the fact that the voting list that MEPs were given was changed at a late stage, so that at least 13 MEPs inadvertently voted the wrong way to approve the measure, and now the commission say the result is final and cannot be rerun. But that's EU democracy at work.
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Perhaps they have been learning from the wonderful example of our own parliamentary procedures.
Only in so far as they believe elected politicians shouldn't be allowed to have any power or influence over anything that matters.
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