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Old 10th Aug 2019, 21:56
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It's Saturday night..a bit of light relief, this from another place, The Mumsnet Brexitannian NewSpeak Dictionary :


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Dictionary July 2019

PANIC : taking gradual action, in July, for an event in November (see also: DELUDED, HYSTERICAL, PARANOID LUNATIC).

SMUG: having taken gradual action in July (see also: HYSTERICAL).

SHORTAGES: something that will definitely happen in July, when supply chains are not disrupted, due to PANIC (see above), but somehow will definitely not happen in November, when supply chains are disrupted.

CAUSATION: people who buy smoke alarms in July cause fires in November.

OBESITY CRISIS: an undesirable state of the nation, caused by European strawberries, and which will be cured by the SHORTAGES which aren’t going to happen, or alternatively by a PATRIOTIC (see below) government mandate for the thin people to eat slices off the fat people.

BLITZSPIRIT: something apparently very good and quintessentially British, a highly desirablestate of the nation, which will come about in November (but not in July) due to the SHORTAGES (see above) which are not going to happen in November (but are in July).

PATRIOTIC: proficiency at reciting hollow slogans and short empty phrases, disparagement of analytical thought.

ARMY: SMUG (see above) group who are UNPATRIOTICALLY PANICKING (see above).

BELITTLING: asking basic questions of someone with whom you are in conversation in order to identify whether you are both proceeding from the same level of comprehension of the relevant issues.

BETRAYAL: any version of Brexit that does not satisfy the specific personal vision of each of 17 million voters, and which furthermore tracks the aforementioned personal visions on their journey of radicalisation from what they were in 2016 to the present.

STOCKPILE: simultaneously
(1) a hoard of essentials literally taken from the mouths of proper ordinary people by posh elites who have pushed prices up and CAUSED (see above) SHORTAGES (see above),
(2) a hoard of luxurious irrelevant fripperies like caviar and au pairs, that only posh elites care about thus irrelevant to proper ordinary people,
(3) a vast load of stodgy unappetising inedibles, not proper food, that no proper ordinary people would want anyway, and which will end up being thrown away and wasted thus destroying the environment thanks to posh elites (See also: LETTUCE).
(4) at some convenient point in time, will always have been a PATRIOTIC and obviously sensible thing to do, for a particular list of items and by a particular list of individuals/companies (if not on the list, then definitions 1-3 continue to apply).

CRESS: Level of agricultural and food distribution expertise required to assure everybody not to STOCKPILE (see above).

CRYSTAL BALL:
(1) A Heisenberg quantum device permitting Leavers to accurately predict that “it” will be “FIIIIIINNNEE” after a “short term” of “some adjustment” but which, when asked for measurements of “fine/short/some” ceases to exist.
(2) A device that Remainers definitely don’t have, which is why they PANIC (see above) and CAUSE (see above) SHORTAGES (see above) without any evidence for their actions.

STARVATION: an often-fatal and previously undesirable condition. Due to BLITZSPIRIT (see above) anything less severe than this is no longer deemed worthy of discussion. (See also: MAD MAX, ARMAGEDDON, END OF THE UNIVERSE, TENT CITIES).

REVELLING: keeping, for unapproved reasons such as Brexit, a STOCKPILE (see above), however keeping a STOCKPILE (see above) for approved reasons such as “just because” is FIIIIIINNNEE especially if you use a euphemism like “Why, I always keep months of food in my shed, isn’t that normal?”. (See also: MASSIVE HYPOCRITE).

FLAT-EARTHERS:
(1) people who think that a No Deal crash-out Brexit might result in supply chain disruption
(2) NOT people who believe that a No Deal crash-out Brexit will produce no discernible effects on anything whatsoever, or even attract golden unicorns.

CONTROL, TAKING BACK:
(1) a PATRIOTIC (see above) act by means of once-in-a-lifetime pencilling an ‘X’ on a small piece of paper, by supinely accepting any ensuing events, and by emoting positively.
(2) an undesirably treasonous, unpatriotic undermining of national interest by means of STOCKPILING (see above) to secure supplies, or to pre-empt anticipated price-rises.

SUPERMARKET PROMOTION:
(1) ordinarily a regular and unremarkable marketing strategy encouraging seasonal purchasing or attracting shoppers of a frugal, thrifty nature - unless they are TAKING BACK CONTROL (see above) in which case see below (2).
(2) a treasonous, unpatriotic undermining of Brexitannia due to encouragement of PANIC (see above) buying of STOCKPILES (see above) causing SHORTAGES (see above).

PROPAGANDA:
(1) factual information given by EXPERTS, the government, anybody tainted by possible foreign sympathies, or in fact anybody with knowledge gleaned from sources other than the gutter press.
(2) a bona fide male goose

WTO: a meaningless mantra, its significance long forgotten in the ancient mists of deep time, which is recited to invoke positive Brexitannian emotions.

DEAL (Syn: May's Deal, Boris's Deal, Corbyn's Deal, any deal):
(1) (Before 31st October) Unacceptable loss of sovereignty and BETRAYAL (see above) of Brexit
(2) (After 1st November) Inevitable, PATRIOTIC (see above), secures food and medicine imports that were never at risk.

REMAINERS:
(1) Non-existent, insignificant, effectively 0% of the population who should be silenced and have no effect on anything at all.
(2) A powerful elite fifth column of traitorous saboteurs in vast numbers, who can kill Brexit fairies by sheer power of thought (See also: EXPERTS) and who are to blame for undesirable bad things happening that aren’t/weren’t happening but also are happening and are desirable despite being bad (See also: PROJECT FEAR).

PROJECT FEAR: any suboptimal outcome/consequence of Brexit that has been predicted by EXPERTS (See also: PROPAGANDA), which will definitely not happen ever (See also: FAKE NEWS, FIIIIIINNNEE), but if/when it does happen, will in fact (a) have been knowingly voted for by Leavers (See also: BLITZSPIRIT), and (b) would have happened inevitably anyway not due to Brexit, and (c) will therefore render (a) and (b) contradictory.

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Old 10th Aug 2019, 23:22
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We're to get a Brexit commemorative 50p coin it seems, it will possibly make a toss up interesting, heads your in, tails your possibly still in.... I wonder what it will be worth post October.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49308970
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Old 11th Aug 2019, 00:57
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Originally Posted by racedo View Post
How will fishermen be better off ?

Majority of catch landed in Uk waters is exported to EU. How will that work after brexit ? Try and look at who is crewing the current UK boats ? Is it thousands of brits that are clambering to go to sea or migrants working on the boats.

Overwhelming majority of ex UK fishermen were happy to grab the money the EU offered to exit the industry, they will not be rushing back in. So where are all these new boats and fishermen to come from.
That’s not what fishing communities and industry experts are saying. The CFP has damaged the UK,s fishing industry badly, quite apart from EU boats taking 60 pc of their catch from UK waters and seriously depleting fish stocks.

Taking back control is vital for the survival of stock and Scottish fisherman vehemently object to wee Jimmy Crankies plan to keep Scotland in the common fisheries policy in her desperate attempt to kiss arse in Europe and derail any Brexit agreement.
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Old 11th Aug 2019, 04:58
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Now why does that cartoon remind me of something straight from "Protect and Survive " the lower right in particular ......

And this 50p coin....presumably embossed with Boris's smiling fizzog on one side......and his posterior cheeks on the other. Plus, the wording " Friendship with all nations.....as dictated by the UK ! " on one side and " (rude word ) off EU foreigners ! " on the other.

But, the good news for the voters in the Mail reading heartlands is........Boris is getting tough on crime !.......not that their "for recreational use only " habits could possibly involve their own contribution to crime of course, pillars of society and all that.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...hariot-cartoon

Our dog has expressed concern however as to whether her supplies of smoked salmon and fillet steak will be affected once we leave, plus, she's demanding to see the labelling on any chicken products prior to consumption .....madam is a very discerning diner I should add.

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Old 11th Aug 2019, 05:43
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Since it seems a morning for frivolous things......



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Old 11th Aug 2019, 08:29
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FFS Somebody end this shi*e, Wiggy doesn’t your backside ever get tired? As for the rest of the left wing guardian lobbyists GET OVER IT. WE ARE LEAVING.
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Old 11th Aug 2019, 09:14
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And let's not forget that a proportion of the EU boats fishing in UK waters are actually fishing using UK quotas as UK fishermen were keen to make a fast buck and sold their quotas to the likes the Spaniards and quit the industry.
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Old 11th Aug 2019, 10:34
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" As for the rest of the left wing guardian lobbyists GET OVER IT. WE ARE LEAVING."

Nothing like capitalisation to add emphasis to a dictat, or diktat of course,

Did this come in a telegram from the M.o.I , to be relayed thereafter, or, is this your personal wish ?

As Boris has informed a suitably bemused, overawed, beleaguered ,indifferent , Brexit saturated nation and electorate, the UK is indeed flouncing out of the EU in October....until the usual assorted rags splurge every jingoistic hyperbolic headline the day after we do, nothing is definite and there's always a glimmer of hope Boris and his grandiose plans, mainly for Boris it has to be said, may yet turn into his personal Armageddon.
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Old 11th Aug 2019, 10:52
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Like it “Meatloaf Remainerism” (from the Grauniad)........


“An obvious problem with the alternative government plan has already emerged. As leader of the opposition, Jeremy Corbyn states that it should be led by him. Yet the Lib Dems and moderate Tories will support only a temporary administration headed by a neutral figure. The stand-off has led to an outbreak of what has been dubbed “Meatloaf Remainerism” (I would do anything to stop no deal, but I won’t do that).”
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Old 11th Aug 2019, 11:30
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Like it “Meatloaf Remainerism” (from the Grauniad)........


“An obvious problem with the alternative government plan has already emerged. As leader of the opposition, Jeremy Corbyn states that it should be led by him. Yet the Lib Dems and moderate Tories will support only a temporary administration headed by a neutral figure. The stand-off has led to an outbreak of what has been dubbed “Meatloaf Remainerism” (I would do anything to stop no deal, but I won’t do that).”
Well that's the Guardian and culture for you ORAC........and it's a very good adaptation I have to say. Can't fault it in the slightest.

However......fancy that...not every Tory is in accord with Boris......
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...k-on-democracy

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Old 11th Aug 2019, 20:11
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Jack D - not a 'cheap shot'. The video referred to was the most significant learning experience in respect of flight safety and its relevance is to the present descent towards disaster, ignoring every contra-indication en-route. The crew would have claimed to be fully competent professionals, yet chose to ignore the obvious. Our present 'Leader/s' would, no doubt, claim equivalent talents.
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If I had ordered the fish in a restaurant, been waiting three hours while the two chefs who had promised to cook it had quit and a third one promised to bring it in five minutes, whether it was cooked or not. All the waiting staff were arguing amongst themselves as to whether I wanted the cod, the grilled salmon,the jellied eels or the dolphin kebabs, meanwhile parts of the restaurant were on fire but nobody was taking any notice because they were too busy arguing about fish then I think I think that I would quite like to be asked if I definitely still wanted the fish.
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Cornish Jack: Are you sure the aircraft you referred to earlier was an Evergreen flight? The only accidents I can find for that operator are a couple of 747s at Anchorage, a DC9 in Texas and another in India.
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It could have been so much easier...the EU could have thrown Cameron a few crumbs and it all would never have happened. Alas they pished on his chips and laughed him out of court. He could have said, sod that and campaigned to leave. Whereupon a better, but irrelevant deal would have appeared and that would have been that..
Alas that didn’t happen and the electoral maths of the UK meant he had to quell the UKIP vote to win the GE with a referendum promise .. That worked better than expected which was his first clue ..
when said referendum was won/lost the next step was to agree a fudge. . Alas the EU went for hard ball. The UK folded like wet cardboard. The electoral maths of the UK finally led us to Boris and a proper Brexit. A calamity of errors that is almost amusing. And can be blamed entirely on the EU,s inablility to co promise. And in the UK the remainers inability to accept the final score. Each step has led us to a harder and harder Brexit.
In my opinion that’s good for,the UK in the long run. But how we got to where we are now from,Cameron being sent home with a flea in his ear, is laughable from the Remainer point of view.
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Old 11th Aug 2019, 22:14
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If I had ordered the fish in a restaurant, been waiting three hours while the two chefs who had promised to cook it had quit and a third one promised to bring it in five minutes, whether it was cooked or not. All the waiting staff were arguing amongst themselves as to whether I wanted the cod, the grilled salmon,the jellied eels or the dolphin kebabs, meanwhile parts of the restaurant were on fire but nobody was taking any notice because they were too busy arguing about fish then I think I think that I would quite like to be asked if I definitely still wanted the fish.
I’d leave the restaurant without paying any sort of bill.
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Old 11th Aug 2019, 22:24
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It could have been so much easier...the EU could have thrown Cameron a few crumbs and it all would never have happened. Alas they pished on his chips and laughed him out of court. He could have said, sod that and campaigned to leave. Whereupon a better, but irrelevant deal would have appeared and that would have been that..
Alas that didn’t happen and the electoral maths of the UK meant he had to quell the UKIP vote to win the GE with a referendum promise .. That worked better than expected which was his first clue ..
when said referendum was won/lost the next step was to agree a fudge. . Alas the EU went for hard ball. The UK folded like wet cardboard. The electoral maths of the UK finally led us to Boris and a proper Brexit. A calamity of errors that is almost amusing. And can be blamed entirely on the EU,s inablility to co promise. And in the UK the remainers inability to accept the final score. Each step has led us to a harder and harder Brexit.
In my opinion that’s good for,the UK in the long run. But how we got to where we are now from,Cameron being sent home with a flea in his ear, is laughable from the Remainer point of view.
The UK already had a significant number of concessions that no other EU country had. And it wanted more. Cameron had a Conservative party problem “oh balls someone with more charisma is bringing up the spirit of 2 world wars and one World Cup. Quick save my party”.

The EU told him to swivel. The EU is not at war with the UK but a lot of brits wish they were at war with the uk.

Yes the EU will temporarily be economically damaged. The UK will for a very long time be damaged goods. I know the mail and the sun make think you matter on the world stage, but you really don’t anymore.
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Cornish Jack: Are you sure the aircraft you referred to earlier was an Evergreen flight? The only accidents I can find for that operator are a couple of 747s at Anchorage, a DC9 in Texas and another in India.
It was flying tiger 66 and still a poor taste analogy
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I'm sure the Brexiteers will have a good laugh at this. For once I would agree with them.
Caroline Lucas calls for emergency female cabinet to block no-deal Brexit


https://www.theguardian.com/politics...no-deal-brexit

Have you all gone bonkers over there?
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Old 11th Aug 2019, 22:52
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The UK already had a significant number of concessions that no other EU country had. And it wanted more. Cameron had a Conservative party problem “oh balls someone with more charisma is bringing up the spirit of 2 world wars and one World Cup. Quick save my party”.

The EU told him to swivel. The EU is not at war with the UK but a lot of brits wish they were at war with the uk.

Yes the EU will temporarily be economically damaged. The UK will for a very long time be damaged goods. I know the mail and the sun make think you matter on the world stage, but you really don’t anymore.
I don’t recall anyone mentioning the war, or any war... I’m pretty sure lots of Brit’s don’t want to be at war with the EU, even if the EU could actually have war . Well not yet anyway..
but I do agree the EU told Cameron the swivel. The catalyst for the whole show.
Also,the mail and the sun don’t make me think anything .. and I reckon the UK matters a tad more than you would think.
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As far as the fishermen are concerned, we have 12 fishery protection vessels to protect a sea area four times the land area of the United Kingdom.
So much for taking back control of our fishing.
It's these simple facts that seem to get lost amidst all the noise . Maybe should be in capital letters . Similarly we hear the mantra --" let's get it done and end all the uncertainty " . Wiser heads make the point that " it " , (be it hard or soft ) will not end uncertainty but in fact be the start of a very looong period of uncertainty .

But that seems to fall on deaf ears.
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