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Old 19th Mar 2020, 16:57
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I was quite surprised that on each occasion that I have been questioned nothing was asked about what I had in the boot. Neither did they even glance inside the car.
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 10:30
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And then there were two........

https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-c...s-david-frost/

UK chief Brexit negotiator self-isolates after showing COVID-19 symptoms
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 10:44
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And then there were two........

https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-c...s-david-frost/

UK chief Brexit negotiator self-isolates after showing COVID-19 symptoms
Makes the chances of us leaving transition at the end of the year even less likely; whatever the protestations of the PM and other on the HoC and media.
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 10:47
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Makes the chances of us leaving transition at the end of the year even less likely; whatever the protestations of the PM and other on the HoC and media.
I still believe the two sides will quietly agree to extend the transition period "due to the exceptional circumstances" .
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 11:06
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I still believe the two sides will quietly agree to extend the transition period "due to the exceptional circumstances" .
It's almost a given; something along the lines of the UK getting it's bill slashed in half, in return for accepting continuation of the status quo in free movement of people for a limited time, probably I'd guess 6 months, the be reviewed and possibly further extended if the Covid 19 crisis hasn't improved to an extent where proper negotiations can be resumed and agreements made - as surely have to be.

The Government here is treating Covid 19 as a "war", and we aren't the only ones in Europe using war analogy, and in wars governments can get away with making difficult decisions which in normal times might be unthinkable.
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 11:35
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Back to the immigration irritations: A few years back, I was returning from a couple of days ship spotting at Terneuzen and on arrival at Dunkirk ferry terminal a shifty looking customs man asked me where I had been. I told him and he immediately said "Go to that shed over there" (an inspection shed about 100m away). Did as I was told and was greeted by a very pleasant young lady. She asked me the routine questions about whether or not I was aware of laws regarding importation of drugs, pornography etc. Anyway, she wanted to have a look in the boot. The car being an estate, she could see what was in the boot anyway but I did as I was bid. As I said the young lady was a very pleasant person. She asked for a quick look at my lap top and my camera and we had a little chat about various cameras etc. During this conversation, I caught a glimpse out of the corner of my eye of her ratty faced colleague scurrying across the open door of the shed, scowling at me. I asked the young lady what was this bloke's problem, does he always put OAPs through the wringer? She mumbled something and gave me a knowing smile. One of those smiles that says "Yes, I know. He is a regular bundle of joy".
Going back a couple of years before that, I was returning with my boss from a business visit to the Police in Eindhoven. A couple of miles short of the Hovercraft terminal, the police had closed the motorway, directing all traffic through a rest area. If you had UK plates you were directed to park on one side, while non-UK plates were waved straight through. Passports were taken away and a man in a van ran them through a minitel terminal and his colleague came to me, as the driver. He carefully cautioned me to close all windows, to not to speak to my boss and to accompany him to the boot. The "nip it" muscles started twitching a little as we both knew we were carrying contraband. We had in the car a collection of police issue walkie talkies, part of a radio system we were supplying to the police in Eindhoven. These were secure radios and required all manner of munitions licences, export permits etc. All too much bother, when it was far easier to throw them in the car and go visit the customer. Anyway, M. Plod and I arrived at the back of the car and he started rooting through our swag, even asking about the radios (but showing no interest). It hadn't occurred to him that despite his instructions that my boss and I were not allowed to converse, the whole time the boot was open, we were all effectively talking within the same space! Eventually, we were waved on, laughing our socks off!
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Old 21st Mar 2020, 12:27
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
Possibly because you were a male travelling on your own? I suffered a similar level of interrogation a few years ago when returning in my car. It probably didn't help that when I was asked where I had been I said "the Schengen area"; absolutely correct but not really the answer he wanted to hear. Then he asked where, i gave the name of the village in which I had stayed, which given he didn't know which country that was in also probably didn't enamour myself to him.

I would say in my defence that I only gave the obtuse Schengen answer after I had been asked a few other questions that I answered with an absolutely straight bat, but by that time I was becoming somewhat irritated with his (pointless) line of questioning.
This used to happen to me every time I used the channel tunnel, it didn't matter if I tuned up I a car, van or even motorcycle. Every time I was stopped, questioned and searched.
This magically stopped when I renewed my passport, I guess the stamps and visas in my old passport to such wonderful destinations (all for work) such as Iran, Angola, DRC, etc. were probably the reason I was flagged every time.
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Old 2nd Apr 2020, 13:13
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics...belfast-brexit

UK government in row with EU over proposed office in Belfast

The British government has rejected an EU request to open an office in Belfast, in the first major row over the implementation of the post-Brexit Irish border protocol.

The EU closed its offices across the UK when the country left the bloc on 31 January but its officials have a right to be present to monitor the checks and controls on goods crossing the Irish Sea. The Foreign Office has rejected Brussels’ request for a permanent physical presence in Belfast on the grounds that this would go beyond what is stipulated in the withdrawal agreement.

There are concerns that it would be seen by some as a step towards joint policing of the customs border between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK.

The British government fought during negotiations over the withdrawal agreement to ensure that checks and controls on goods crossing the Irish Sea would not be jointly carried out. The row highlights the potential for the protocol on Northern Ireland to be a cause of contention between the EU and the UK.....

The issue of a Belfast office was raised on Monday during the first teleconference meeting of the EU-UK joint committee, set up to supervise the operation of the withdrawal agreement. The chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, Michael Gove, is the UK’s senior figure on the committee.

Under article 12 of the Northern Ireland protocol, the UK government is “responsible for implementing and applying the provisions of [EU] law” but EU officials “shall have the right to be present during any activities” relating to checks and controls. The UK is obliged to “facilitate such presence of representatives and shall provide them with the information requested”. The EU wants a base for its customs and veterinary experts.

A European commission spokesman said: “We can confirm that we have sent letters to the UK regarding a proposal to open a technical office in Belfast with specific technical capabilities to ensure the implementation of the protocol on Ireland/Northern Ireland. This issue was raised in the joint committee on Monday. We remain in contact with the UK on this point.”

A spokesman for the UK government said it was considering the issue. He said: “We received an initial request from the EU and responded to decline the proposal in February. We have since received a follow-up letter to which we will respond in due course.”




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Old 2nd Apr 2020, 14:56
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If on my own, 100% certainty I will be pulled aside. Might be the only car on the ferry. Guess I look dodgy.

Fortunately I saw it coming last time, ate the kg of coke I was smuggling and talked my way out of it very quickly.
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 18:09
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UK and EU agree FTA talk timetable.

https://order-order.com/2020/04/15/f...fta-timetable/
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 19:06
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In view of the fact that crops are going to go unpicked it seems likely that a coach and several nags are going to be driven through the FoM rules. That will please all those who voted to keep the beastly foreigners out.
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 19:39
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In view of the fact that crops are going to go unpicked it seems likely that a coach and several nags are going to be driven through the FoM rules.
Which rules?
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 20:02
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In view of the fact that crops are going to go unpicked it seems likely that a coach and several nags are going to be driven through the FoM rules. That will please all those who voted to keep the beastly foreigners out.
Tedious as your continual sniping is at least try and get your facts right.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52293061
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 20:09
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MM, thank you. You make my point admirably. The articles demonstrates my claim to be true, assuming you believe the BBC. The cessation of FOM was central to Brexit. Now in the face of a little local difficulty we have Eastern European folk being flown in willy nilly, indiscriminately even, in obeisance to the whim of Farmer Giles.
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 20:21
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Which rules?
The ones we were assured that Brexit would bring in to prevent cheap foreign workers from undercutting British workers.
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 21:15
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No change to the rules till after the transition period at the earliest. You know that.
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 21:33
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So no Romanians in 2021 then? You really think so if Farmer Giles gets twitchy about his cheap labour?
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 21:42
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MM, thank you. You make my point admirably. The articles demonstrates my claim to be true, assuming you believe the BBC. The cessation of FOM was central to Brexit. Now in the face of a little local difficulty we have Eastern European folk being flown in willy nilly, indiscriminately even, in obeisance to the whim of Farmer Giles.
Did the transition period until the 31st December where we still have to follow all EU rules pass you by?
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 21:46
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Not at all. Did the lockdown escape your notice? Seems an odd sort of time to be importing immigrant workers though. One might even think that our government thinks that propping up farmers more important that fighting the Covid war.
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 22:23
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Not at all. Did the lockdown escape your notice? Seems an odd sort of time to be importing immigrant workers though. One might even think that our government thinks that propping up farmers more important that fighting the Covid war.
Did the lockdown pass you by as well? - farm workers are on the Government list of critical workers to keep food supplies flowing.
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