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Old 29th Jan 2020, 21:51
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It's a shame that the UK's final moments in the European seat of Government should be recorded for posterity as childish playground behaviour, showing that our MEPs are incapable of following institutional rules and seeking attention for all the wrong reasons and by juvenile methods. I wouldn't be surprised if there were sighs of relief from others present and that serious business can now be considered and debated without being hijacked by those with a limited agenda. The image of UK politics in Europe is not a good one, and sadly may leave a lasting impression whatever the future holds ... for the UK and for Europe.

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Old 30th Jan 2020, 06:29
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I don't recall those idiots in yellow t-shirts with the word "bollocks" coming in for much criticism. How strange.
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Old 30th Jan 2020, 06:43
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Originally Posted by B Fraser View Post
I don't recall those idiots in yellow t-shirts with the word "bollocks" coming in for much criticism. How strange.
Fair enough, but I donít think the Bollocks brigade wore their t-shirts in their Parliament.
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Old 30th Jan 2020, 07:03
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Originally Posted by zoigberg View Post
Fair enough, but I donít think the Bollocks brigade wore their t-shirts in their Parliament.
I think they did;https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top...irts-1-6137054
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Old 30th Jan 2020, 07:37
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Well, well thanks goofer. Just goes to show there is no real monopoly on f**kwittery at either end of the spectrum.
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Old 30th Jan 2020, 08:00
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There was an interesting documentary on BBC4 last night showing the Brexit process from behind the scenes/cameras via Laura Kuenssberg and it was eye opening. Particularly eye opening were some of the comments from various MPs in off-the-record scenes.
It is available on BBC iPlayer here:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...s-inside-story
There is also a 2nd part available, taking us up to the October 31st, the Supreme Court decision etc
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Old 30th Jan 2020, 09:44
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KelvinD,

Since I can't get BBC iPlayer where I live, what were some of the MP's comments?
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Old 30th Jan 2020, 10:06
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It's a shame that the UK's final moments in the European seat of Government should be recorded for posterity as childish playground behaviour, showing that our MEPs are incapable of following institutional rules and seeking attention for all the wrong reasons and by juvenile methods. I wouldn't be surprised if there were sighs of relief from others present and that serious business can now be considered and debated without being hijacked by those with a limited agenda. The image of UK politics in Europe is not a good one, and sadly may leave a lasting impression whatever the future holds ... for the UK and for Europe.
Get a life, it was funny and something that I will revel in for years to come, especially that po-faced bird telling them to stop waving the flags, priceless.
You must understand, of course, that this view will not be shared by certain crybabies on here, but that adds to my enjoyment
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Old 30th Jan 2020, 10:20
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While it is sadly predictable that much of Jb will support arrogant jingoism and downright rudeness in totally inappropriate circumstances I as a staunch remainer do not want Boris to fail. I am however afraid of the consequences if he does and he doesnt have great record of actual achievement.

If he does fail we will be in debt up to our ears and isolated and then who will his evil backers seek to blame no its no longer the Eu. US has already tried to bully us on a trade issue and will soon do the same on the tax on big data. we have no allies and friends to stand with us on this.

As to ideas of taking a hard line in negotiations tha its just fantasy - much can be done on good practical grounds here that are advantageous to us and the Eu countries- reminder for JB quitters that the EU isnt a country in the sense the UK is or was.
Also it is yet another example of which history is full of the UK reneging on deals and letting down its partners so perfidious Albion is sadly truer today than ever. And sadness is the abiding emotion with me and many to see our country lovely country made mockery of by those with ulterior motives like personal financial gain or political office.
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Old 30th Jan 2020, 11:34
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This fail or not fail question is a tricky one. Whilst failure will bring a lot of schadenfreude enjoyment and almost certainly the fall of the current administration non failure is probably better for the majority of the population. I am regarding this as a win/win and I will happily embrace either outcome, but I think that the former is the more likely.
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Old 30th Jan 2020, 13:18
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Bergerie1: I will have to watch it again and make notes this time. So it may be a day or two before I can give you some quotes.
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Old 30th Jan 2020, 13:37
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Originally Posted by zoigberg View Post
Fair enough, but I donít think the Bollocks brigade wore their t-shirts in their Parliament.
And there has been little (no) coverage of the other MEP's in the session yesterday that were asked by the speaker to take their national flags off of their desks - but only AFTER the waving of the Union Flags by the Brexit Party MEPs. If it is such a crime then why weren't they told to remove their flags from their desks earlier?
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Old 30th Jan 2020, 13:37
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Originally Posted by denachtenmai View Post
Get a life, it was funny and something that I will revel in for years to come, especially that po-faced bird telling them to stop waving the flags, priceless.
You must understand, of course, that this view will not be shared by certain crybabies on here, but that adds to my enjoyment
The allure of the behavioural standards must have proved very nostalgic. Thankfully, no food is allowed in the chamber

Do we take it then you are fully in favour of populism and all the horrors this will produce ?

" And there has been little (no) coverage of the other MEP's in the session yesterday that were asked by the speaker to take their national flags off of their desks - but only AFTER the waving of the Union Flags by the Brexit Party MEPs. If it is such a crime then why weren't they told to remove their flags from their desks earlier?"

No ! really ??...well there's discrimination for you !. There again, you may have missed the slight difference between having your national flag, static, on the desk and jingoistic flag waving of the Brexit members ( as in Victorian erotica ) which only had one purpose and that was to antagonise.

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Old 30th Jan 2020, 14:08
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Apparently desk flags were allowed until 13th January 2020 when the Parliament President interpreted an old rule preventing "a banner or banners" as meaning little desk flags as well and decided they were to be banned. It was not just the UK that had these little flags....

I would have thought it would have been good to see the nationality of a person so that you would have some indication of what language they were likely to be speaking.

Utterly petty on the part of the EU Parliament I think.
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Old 30th Jan 2020, 14:27
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...."this view will not be shared by certain crybabies on here,"

Ah yes, the authentic tone of Lttle England. You got that right, it isn't; at least not by this crybaby. It was a disgraceful and shaming episode, undignified, immature, arrogant. Good ole Nige's yobs at their worst. It was in complete contrast to the courtesy and genuine sorrow shown by other countries MEPs.

So be it. At least those morons ensured that the EU will not be sorry to see us leave the building.

And now BoJo can get on with with fulfilling all his promises. Maybe he could start with explaining to the fishing industry that the promise of "Taking Control" of the UK's waters and keeping out those nasty foreigners (you know, the ones to whom the UK industry sold most of its quota), sounds terrific, but they will have to find buyers outside the EU for 80% of their catch, which BoJo somehow forgot to mention while pre-occupied with "Getting Brexit Done". Or perhaps that promise will be the first of many to unravel, so that EU boats will continue to fish UK waters, and UK boats will continue to catch and sell fish to the EU.
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Old 30th Jan 2020, 15:12
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Oh knc, you are such a ray of sunshine in these dark times, I took the waving of our national flag as a sign of goodbye.
Since when have people stood and waved goodbye to loved ones with static appendages?
To wave-- move one's hand to and fro in greeting or as a signal.
Anyway, your outrage bus will have many more passengers before long so you can wallow in your despair with like minds.
Ooooh, I see you have one already.
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Old 30th Jan 2020, 16:25
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Originally Posted by denachtenmai View Post
Oh knc, you are such a ray of sunshine in these dark times, I took the waving of our national flag as a sign of goodbye.
Since when have people stood and waved goodbye to loved ones with static appendages?
To wave-- move one's hand to and fro in greeting or as a signal.
Anyway, your outrage bus will have many more passengers before long so you can wallow in your despair with like minds.
Ooooh, I see you have one already.
Thank you for the clarification. Does this differ in any way from, say, gesticulating using the digits of the hand as I have been known to do towards those who warrant such ?

I will say your own, and many others, euphoria will be relatively short lived. Given your age, you will start to become more and more reliant on younger people to provide services you require. You may have noticed this Gov't has made no secret of the intention to reduce workers rights, significantly, once we have left....all you have to do now, PM a friend if you wish, is make the correlation .......
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Old 30th Jan 2020, 16:27
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I am very sorry but I have to post this. It is just so funny and accurate...
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Old 30th Jan 2020, 17:01
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I haven't laughed that much in ages!!
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Old 30th Jan 2020, 17:15
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Interesting article int today's"times" from their Economics Editor saying how the Govt is already set to sell the fisherman down the river again

Apparently well over half the UK's current quota is owned by EU companies running things through perfectly legal UK subsids - and the WHOLE of the N Ireland quota is owned by one Dutch trawler... of course it was he UK fishermen who sold them the quotas in the first place..........
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