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Old 6th Sep 2019, 12:47
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What a load of Bull.....






https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-49599334
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Old 6th Sep 2019, 13:20
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That's the only way to capture the Scottish vote. Then drag it off to the nearest china shop.
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Old 6th Sep 2019, 16:37
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What is amusing me currently is the rash of Remain voters who phone talk shows and say "I voted Remain but because I value democracy I think that we should now just get it done." Well, were this to be the case then we would be seeing movement away from the 52/48 referendum split in a direction of Leave. What we are seeing in fact is a movement in the other direction. So somebody in addition to Young Pfeffel is telling porkies.
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Old 6th Sep 2019, 17:19
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That's the only way to capture the Scottish vote. Then drag it off to the nearest china shop.
Suspect Scotland is lost for the Tories, what with the SNP resurgence and Sturgeon capitalizing on remain. Once Ruth Davidson left, it effectively finished them off. All of this obvious of course, however, the impact on the overall vote could be crucial.

It's like the Tories are falling over themselves to gift Sturgeon with everything she desires.
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Old 6th Sep 2019, 17:58
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Well keeping with the current theme, and pics, involving bulls ( and china shops ) and Boris, here's another on the same theme. Obviously, it should be a horse, but I bet bulls is just like horses when it comes to drinking, plus they both produce a similar end product readily associated with Boris and his utterings.....

Talking of which, here's the latest horse / bull ( rude word ) from Boris....." the powers of persuasion " it seems will be his cunning plan to thwart the dastardly EU.....erm, just a couple of flaws here......one being Boris, the other being the EU are not going to be over enamoured with Boris and his "persuasive charm "..probably because he lacks both traits.....

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ew-brexit-deal
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Old 6th Sep 2019, 17:58
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" ... and next on offer, item No 10 in the catalogue, a strong white rope with, on one end, a recalcitrant dumb animal which produces large quantities of bovine excrement, and on the other ..."
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Old 6th Sep 2019, 18:10
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Originally Posted by Effluent Man View Post
What is amusing me currently is the rash of Remain voters who phone talk shows and say "I voted Remain but because I value democracy I think that we should now just get it done." Well, were this to be the case then we would be seeing movement away from the 52/48 referendum split in a direction of Leave. What we are seeing in fact is a movement in the other direction. So somebody in addition to Young Pfeffel is telling porkies.
I haven't phoney a talk show. Have we actually seen any movement?

Oh, forgot, we haven't had a vote to show any movement.
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Old 6th Sep 2019, 18:21
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The latest Health Secretary has revealed on his twitter account (on a Friday afternoon) plans to shunt doctors and nurses between hospitals (and health trusts) ... it would be an irony if these NHS passports to allow 'freedom of movement' and compensate for staffing shortages, are dependent on take up from EU nationals who were being asked last Christmas to apply for settled status.

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Old 6th Sep 2019, 18:26
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Does a situation now exist where:
- nobody nows what the original breexit vote ment
- nobody knows what the proper procedure in a situation like this is concerning the government
- nobody knows what the queen can and cannot do

I don't have an opinion one way or the other as brexit does not really afffect me.

But it certainly looks like a thorough fubar.

Just curious.
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Old 6th Sep 2019, 18:58
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Let's get serious. Will they be blue?

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Old 6th Sep 2019, 22:43
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Aihkio; fubar doesn't even get close to the situation in British politics right now. Indeed, fubar implies some kind of intent...………..
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Old 7th Sep 2019, 11:43
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I'm a bit disappointed that the long denied election pact between Boris and Nigel hasn't been announced yet. What's keeping them?
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Old 7th Sep 2019, 12:01
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You have to announce an election first.
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Old 7th Sep 2019, 17:24
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Out shopping this morning and we had 'enthusiasts' from either faction on opposite sides of the street. Remainers anticipating civil unrest if they don't get their way second time around. Brexiteers ( Brexit Party ) claiming that there will be a pact between Johnson and Farage in order to get Brexit over the line after the next election.

How in God's name do we get Johnson, Corbyn, Farage, Sturgeon, Abbot, MacDonald in such positions. I leave Swinson out of that list because being a Liberal she is by definition a loser !
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Old 8th Sep 2019, 19:52
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/988643...-unacceptable/

Two top EU chiefs tell Remainers NO more Brexit delays

TWO top EU chiefs have told Remainers they will BLOCK any further Brexit delays as Brussels slammed the fiasco as “unacceptable”.

Guy Verhoftstadt fired off the warning just hours after France’s foreign minister, Jean-Yves Le Drain, said he would refuse any move to extend Brexit.

Verhoftstadt, the European Parliament’s chief Brexit co-ordinator, said another extension would be “unacceptable unless the deadlock in London is broken”. He added: “Let it be a 2nd ref., new elections, a revocation of art. 50 or the approval of the deal, but not today’s helpless status quo.”

This morning Le Drian gave Boris Johnson an unexpected boost when he said given the current situation, France would reject any extension.

Speaking this morning to Europe 1, he said: “The British say they want to come up with alternative solutions for withdrawal and No Deal, we have not seen them, so it’s ‘no’, we’re not going to do it every three months.” And the irritated minister slammed the situation in Britain as “disturbing”, adding: “There’s no majority for anything.”.........





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Old 8th Sep 2019, 20:33
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Originally Posted by ORAC View Post
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/988643...-unacceptable/

Two top EU chiefs tell Remainers NO more Brexit delays

TWO top EU chiefs have told Remainers they will BLOCK any further Brexit delays as Brussels slammed the fiasco as “unacceptable”.

Guy Verhoftstadt fired off the warning just hours after France’s foreign minister, Jean-Yves Le Drain, said he would refuse any move to extend Brexit.

Verhoftstadt, the European Parliament’s chief Brexit co-ordinator, said another extension would be “unacceptable unless the deadlock in London is broken”. He added: “Let it be a 2nd ref., new elections, a revocation of art. 50 or the approval of the deal, but not today’s helpless status quo.”

This morning Le Drian gave Boris Johnson an unexpected boost when he said given the current situation, France would reject any extension.

Speaking this morning to Europe 1, he said: “The British say they want to come up with alternative solutions for withdrawal and No Deal, we have not seen them, so it’s ‘no’, we’re not going to do it every three months.” And the irritated minister slammed the situation in Britain as “disturbing”, adding: “There’s no majority for anything.”.........

Unless I’m mistaken, and I know I’ll be quickly corrected if I am, neither of these gentlemen have any say in agreeing a Brexit extension which I understand is solely in the gift of the EU Council of Ministers. Even Tusk is just a bag carrier.
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Old 8th Sep 2019, 21:25
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Originally Posted by yellowtriumph View Post


Unless I’m mistaken, and I know I’ll be quickly corrected if I am, neither of these gentlemen have any say in agreeing a Brexit extension which I understand is solely in the gift of the EU Council of Ministers. Even Tusk is just a bag carrier.
It is not only those two gentlemen saying this. It is a general consensus among the european citizen. You (the Uk ) are being so childish. You want out? So get out, with whatever consequence that comes with leaving. Or stay.

But make your mind now.

This reminds me my children's behaviour when they were 2 years old... and then, there is nothing like a good deadline to teach them how to make a decision.
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Old 8th Sep 2019, 23:05
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So you agree with your supreme leader M. Napoleon Macron (who's popularity rating can't fall much further)?
There are those of us here in the UK who are totally determined to leave because of the likes of him. How's the yellow vest protest doing?
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Old 9th Sep 2019, 01:56
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Originally Posted by fab777 View Post
It is not only those two gentlemen saying this. It is a general consensus among the european citizen. You (the Uk ) are being so childish. You want out? So get out, with whatever consequence that comes with leaving. Or stay.
With how the UK has shown itself to be a rabble over the last 3 years I can see why the rest of the EU now wants them out. Why would you want this country which can’t stop its immature squabbling and get its act together to remain in your club? Even to the point that if Brexit was in some way cancelled now by the UK government the EU should be very suspicious about letting them remain, and even consider not allowing them to cancel article 50.

The rest of the EU can take the slight economic pain of a No Deal (it will be far, far worse in the UK however) and continue with developing free trade agreements with the rest of the world the UK will now no longer be able to access.

A period of time in the sin bin might be what the UK needs, and after they have learned some humility and respect they can come back to the EU and politely ask for a re-admission or at least a trade deal.
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Old 9th Sep 2019, 09:43
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and after they have learned some humility and respect
Comments like that make me even more determined to leave the EU.
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