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Old 15th Mar 2019, 05:22
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Terrorist kills dozens in mosques in Christchurch NZ today

Horrific events unfolding in Christchurch. One shooter appears to be a white guy, allegedly Australian.

The Bangladesh cricket team, touring NZ, were present but managed to escape.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12213039

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/111314794/bangladesh-cricket-team-escape-christchurch-mosque-shooting

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Old 15th Mar 2019, 05:40
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My hometown - sister lives just 60 metres away from the mosque.
They arrived home to an AOS lockdown and armed police everywhere.
This is just horrific - the gunman livestreamed the whole thing to the web.
They're saying as many as 30 worshippers may have been killed at two different mosques.
Four arrested - one woman - and IEDs on cars defused.
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very tragic. my home town as well but didn't want to be the one that started the thread.

i was reading this just last week https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12210546

i think the amount imported in the article is just about to decrease to zero
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Old 15th Mar 2019, 07:08
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Over 40 dead and 48 hospitalised, 20 serious or critical.

Three terrorists were heavily armed, dressed in identical black uniforms, coordinated and well trained. This was not a lone-wolf attack. Fourth person arrested has now been released

Terrorists are reported as from a right-wing white supremacist group, but not on any watch-list. Australian police in New South Wales working with NZ authorities.
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Old 15th Mar 2019, 07:39
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very tragic. my home town as well but didn't want to be the one that started the thread.

i was reading this just last week https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12210546

i think the amount imported in the article is just about to decrease to zero
unbelievable given the regular news from the US.
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proud of FB to set up an 'I'm safe' page for Anglo saxon, christian new zealanders to jump on the band wagon and declare they are safe. I doubt very much that any of them were ever in any danger let alone actually being at friday mosque. kind of embarrassing and ignorant.
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Old 15th Mar 2019, 08:06
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Number of dead now up to 49.
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Wonder if this will inspire some tit-for-tat episodes. Bad enough without idiots like these inflaming things.
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Old 15th Mar 2019, 08:26
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Hard to put into context really, NZ is the last place most would think the far right would get into this business. Christchurch does have a long history of being the home of the right wing in NZ, but terrorism hasn’t generally been on the radar.
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Very tragic.....but I guess not so surprising it was going to happen one day....EnZed not being somewhere you first think.

No doubt someone will be along shortly to explain that it was not terrorism (Stephen Paddock anyone?)....and also that if everyone in the Mosque also had a gun.....
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and also that if everyone in the Mosque also had a gun.....
Apparently there was a gun kept at one of the mosques that was used to return fire.
That's going to raise a few questions as well.
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No doubt someone will be along shortly to explain that it was not terrorism
Well, I'll bite. I don't think it was terrorism in the accepted sense. It was another disconnected sub-human who in his diseased mind believes he's been given a green light by bigots and self-serving world 'leaders' who satisfy their followers by spewing hatred on minorities.
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Apparently there was a gun kept at one of the mosques that was used to return fire.
That's going to raise a few questions as well.
Source please.
I haven't seen that.
Far too easy to get semi-auto rifles in NZ.
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Apparently there was a gun kept at one of the mosques that was used to return fire.
That's going to raise a few questions as well.


News to me....

Well, I'll bite. I don't think it was terrorism in the accepted sense.

Well it is interesting, or rather telling, how when a Muslim starts on a rampage of Mass Murder....authorities are very reluctant to use the word...

Anyway, as with the Las Vegas Shooting......(forget the perpetrators motive for a moment) and ask your self, were those being targeted and shot at experiencing a sense of terror???...If yes...Terrorism.

Terrorists used to be Northern Irish too remember, in that instance you could call them 'Catholic Terrorists", most all of the World's recent acts of Terrorism is Islamic Terrorism...Christchurch today was (Far) Right Terrorism.
People hate it when their particular brand of belief gets labelled Terrorism...
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clareprop,

Yes it WAS terrorism! Just because the perpetrator wasn't Muslim does not somehow disqualify it. Possibly multiple shooters, cars with IED's in them, simultaneous attacks on two locations, all point to an organised planned TERRORIST attack.

This is one of a growing number of white right wing extremist terrorist attacks across the world.

Hopefully this tragedy will help convince folk that the problem is not Islam. The problem is extreme radicalism.
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not the original source I read but about halfway down
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...ealand-1222408
Mark Nichols told the New Zealand Herald he heard about five gunshots and that a Friday prayer-goer returned fire with a rifle or shotgun.​​​​​​​
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Well, I'll bite. I don't think it was terrorism in the accepted sense. It was another disconnected sub-human who in his diseased mind believes he's been given a green light by bigots and self-serving world 'leaders' who satisfy their followers by spewing hatred on minorities.
You appear to have a different comprehension of terrorism to that of one of the alleged terrorists.......as he so thoughtfully confirms.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...hurch-shooting

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Even the (somewhat right himself) PM of Australia is calling it a Terrorist attack....(ok ok He's fairly a clueless clown and can't see that all his ministers are leaving before the election 'cos they know that leaving as a minister they suck the Aust. tax payer dry, rather than accept far less money as a opposition retiree BUT I digress)

"Scott Morrison says an Australian man massacred worshippers in an act of "extremist right-wing terrorism" which was streamed on the internet."
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By attacking one well defined group or groups you are terrorising all people who would consider themselves to be in a similar group.

Bombing a shopping mall terrorises all who use malls.

As a thought, I wonder if the location was chosen because its very name is the opposite of mosque?
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And Teresa just called it as well....


Theresa May@theresa_mayOn behalf of the UK, my deepest condolences to the people of New Zealand after the horrifying terrorist attack in Christchurch. My thoughts are with all of those affected by this sickening act of violence

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