Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Social > Jet Blast
Reload this Page >

Kashmir...again

Jet Blast Topics that don't fit the other forums. Rules of Engagement apply.

Kashmir...again

Old 27th Feb 2019, 06:10
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Vendee
Posts: 138
Kashmir...again

Looks as if Pakistan downed 2 IAF jets. IAF had been carrying out strikes. Before that there was something and before that there was something else...we all know the routine.

Obviously the situation is always tense, but I hope this does not spill the banks this time. Reasons for concern on this one.

Uncle Fred is offline  
Old 27th Feb 2019, 06:30
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hampshire
Age: 72
Posts: 686
I have no sympathy with India over this one. In 1947 it seemed obvious that, as the population of Kashmir was largely Muslim, then Kashmir should join Pakistan. After all, wasn't the partition of India done along religious lines? One has to wonder what India hopes to gain by maintaining their hold over a large part of the region. Whatever, the recent problems have been caused by India operating a policy from the US playbook. "We think these terrorists were living in your country, so we will bomb you". The "incontrovertible truth" India had claimed clearly showed take?involvement of the government of Pakistan has not yet appeared. I wonder if that may be because they are still manufacturing it? One has to wonder which side, if any, the Chinese will at
KelvinD is online now  
Old 27th Feb 2019, 06:38
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Reading, UK
Posts: 10,642
I have no idea whether or not terrorists operate from within Pakistan's borders.

And, given that Pakistan satisfies most, if not all, the criteria of a failed state, I very much doubt that its government knows either.
DaveReidUK is offline  
Old 27th Feb 2019, 07:32
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 1,899
“No sympathy with India...population largely Muslim...” By which reasoning we must cede Bradford to Pakistan? Not intended to be flippant and I don’t have a “side” but such silly over-simplifications hardly help: it’s too easy to trivialise others’ differences.
ShotOne is offline  
Old 27th Feb 2019, 07:43
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: yes
Posts: 160
Apparently according to some reports they were Indian F16s. When did the Indians get F16s?


Plenty of confusion at the moment.
Steepclimb is offline  
Old 27th Feb 2019, 09:11
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Ilmington, Warwickshire
Posts: 72
Originally Posted by Steepclimb View Post
Apparently according to some reports they were Indian F16s. When did the Indians get F16s?


Plenty of confusion at the moment.
Which we’re probably funding through foreign aid - not forgetting their nuclear weaponry.

Meanwhile, children are still starving and living in squalor on their streets.
BehindBlueEyes is online now  
Old 27th Feb 2019, 09:14
  #7 (permalink)  
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Peripatetic
Posts: 9,999
Mig-21 and SU-30 engaged by PAF F-16s using AIM-120s. See thread on military forum.
ORAC is offline  
Old 27th Feb 2019, 09:39
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 4,584
Mig 21s?? They must be about fifty years old. The PLAAF binned theirs over a decade ago.
Fareastdriver is offline  
Old 27th Feb 2019, 12:27
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Horsham, England, UK. ---o--O--o---
Posts: 1,045
Originally Posted by ORAC View Post
Mig-21 and SU-30 engaged by PAF F-16s using AIM-120s. See thread on military forum.
PAF say engaged by J17s
Out Of Trim is online now  
Old 27th Feb 2019, 12:47
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Hong Kong
Age: 75
Posts: 297
Good to see Indian Air Force AVM wearing what looked like a V-Force No. 2. Also very nostalgic to see MiG 21s.
Barksdale Boy is online now  
Old 27th Feb 2019, 13:29
  #11 (permalink)  
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Peripatetic
Posts: 9,999
OOT,

First reports said F-16s, now hastily deleted - because the PAF will be in trouble with the USA for using them......

https://www.timesnownews.com/india/a...1-bison/373558

https://theprint.in/defence/why-iaf-...nesday/199038/

Last edited by ORAC; 27th Feb 2019 at 13:49.
ORAC is offline  
Old 27th Feb 2019, 13:45
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Moscow region
Age: 61
Posts: 512
I would prefer to keep associating the word "Kashmir" with Led Zeppelin.
Hope both sides will not use nukes to check recent calculations done by some egg-headed concerning N-winter.....
A_Van is offline  
Old 27th Feb 2019, 15:29
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hampshire
Age: 72
Posts: 686
ShotOne: You really should have read the next sentence. The whole sub-continent was divvied up along religious lines. Until it came to Kashmir. Bugger Bradford!
A-Van: Kashmir by Led Zeppelin; one of the best bits of music I have ever heard. I often used to play that while driving across all the countries on the Arabian Peninsula. And I still do, here in the UK. I sometimes get strange looks from people when this white haired old codger turns up in the supermarket parking area with that or Pink Floyd or Elbow etc coming from the car!
KelvinD is online now  
Old 27th Feb 2019, 15:35
  #14 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Vendee
Posts: 138
Originally Posted by A_Van View Post
I would prefer to keep associating the word "Kashmir" with Led Zeppelin.
Exactly what I was thinking whilst I was typing in the title of the thread. Good memories that!

Uncle Fred is offline  
Old 27th Feb 2019, 15:51
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Clarty Waters, UK
Age: 54
Posts: 906
Originally Posted by KelvinD View Post
Kashmir by Led Zeppelin; one of the best bits of music I have ever heard. I often used to play that while driving across all the countries on the Arabian Peninsula.
A bit OT, but many years ago, while I was living and working in the Eastern Province, I discovered that Bahrain's national radio station had a regular Prog / Heavy Rock programme. It really wasn't something I expected from that part of the world.
Andy_S is offline  
Old 27th Feb 2019, 16:43
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Moscow region
Age: 61
Posts: 512
Originally Posted by KelvinD View Post
...... I sometimes get strange looks from people when this white haired old codger turns up in the supermarket parking area with that or Pink Floyd or Elbow etc coming from the car!
This sounds great! Reminded me my recent drive along the Lake Geneva. Entering Montreux and approaching the place where the old casino was "burned to the ground" during the times when Deep Purple were recording Machine Head there (oh, God, it was nearly 50 years ago!) I stopped, switched on "Smoke on the water" and started telling the story to my wife with the doors opened. I noticed that it sounded like a strange music for the most of the people passing by (though they were much younger than we). However, I was pleased to see many flowers at the Freddie Mercury statue, to which we added some.
A_Van is offline  
Old 27th Feb 2019, 20:15
  #17 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Yes.
Posts: 236
Well let's see now. Pakistan were aware of, two terrorists attacks in the making, on Indians this century. One very recently. They gave O.B.L. santury in their country and they would have to have known this was happening.

time someone made a stand. I'm with India on this dispute.
Dan_Brown is offline  
Old 27th Feb 2019, 21:21
  #18 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Godforsakencountry
Posts: 263
I have no sympathy with India over this one. In 1947 it seemed obvious that, as the population of Kashmir was largely Muslim, then Kashmir should join Pakistan. After all, wasn't the partition of India done along religious lines?
Correct that Kashmir is mainly Muslim but under Mountbatten's partition plan, the decision was left to the local ruler Hari Singh who decided to join India.
Argonautical is offline  
Old 27th Feb 2019, 21:25
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Ilmington, Warwickshire
Posts: 72
I would be leaning towards supporting India if it wasn’t for all their bloody scammers! I’ve had SO many calls from them in the last week - on average 5 a day. Seems to be a way of life there.
BehindBlueEyes is online now  
Old 27th Feb 2019, 21:25
  #20 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Southwater
Age: 69
Posts: 511
Originally Posted by BehindBlueEyes View Post


Which we’re probably funding through foreign aid - not forgetting their nuclear weaponry.

Meanwhile, children are still starving and living in squalor on their streets.
And they have a space programme.
RedhillPhil is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.