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Old 14th Feb 2019, 15:11
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Firstly, unless mistaken, anyone seen to be helping out Britain's enemies is a traitor, which is still classed as treason. Anything upto life in prison is possible, but the death sentence is no more. Surely, she must realise that she could be charged with this if she comes back to Britain.
Secondly, she has to be a real risk to the homeland security, given the role she had and being with the "enemy" for 4 years.
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 15:13
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Whatever happened to that dozy pair that decided to go on a package holiday to Afghanistan and procreate whilst being held by the Taliban?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41656159




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Old 14th Feb 2019, 15:14
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PDR1,
I think you forget that she enlisted to a “society” which main goal was to exterminate western civilization.
To exterminate me, you, all of us in this topic including our family, friends, etc....without a single sign of remorse!
Calling me a thug and comparing me to IS for wanting her to be sterilized, you are totally loosing the plot.

Sometime, “damage control” are necessary.
Talking about it, apparently some countries are specifically and systematically hunting down and killing on the battlefield their own citizens that are fighting for ISIS.
How do you feel about that?


This said, if you dig down my posting history you will see that I am far away from being a fascist. But I sure would have wanted my mom being sterile instead of having me in places like that living only for a few months in total misery.

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Old 14th Feb 2019, 15:15
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Looks like there’s a couple more of regretful Daesh recruits in the last few days:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/i-brok...home-1.4293114


https://torontosun.com/news/world/ca...me-too-harshly

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Old 14th Feb 2019, 15:23
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Originally Posted by PDR1 View Post
I presume you mean this article which has no "clear debunk", just the single, unsuppoerted statement:



You can have a look around the legal forums and you'll find that few actual lawyers agree with this statement at face value. They point to the word "temporarily" and explain that this means "even if we don't prosecute we can insist that she agrees to certain things before she's allowed out of custody".

But meanwhile I see we have the ugly fascist thug who thinks compulsory strilisation is something we can impose as a punishment. No wonder people hate us...

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Were you referring to my post # 28. If so, please read it again. I said no such thing.
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 15:36
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Under international law the government cannot render someone stateless.

The previous cases where UK nationality was withdrawn were where, through parentage, the terrorists in question had dual nationality. IIRC, Cypriot and Somali.

The Immigration Act 2014 does in fact bestow that power, but in very constrained circumstances as detailed below. I doubt whether the woman in question will be able to acquire Syrian citizenship, and she is also British by birth, not naturalisation......

Deprivation if conduct seriously prejudicial to vital interests of the UK

In section 40 of the British Nationality Act 1981 (deprivation of citizenship), after subsection (4) insert—
“(4A) But that does not prevent the Secretary of State from making an order under subsection (2) to deprive a person of a citizenship status if—

(a) the citizenship status results from the person’s naturalisation,

(b) the Secretary of State is satisfied that the deprivation is conducive to the public good because the person, while having that citizenship status, has conducted him or herself in a manner which is seriously prejudicial to the vital interests of the United Kingdom, any of the Islands, or any British overseas territory, and

(c) the Secretary of State has reasonable grounds for believing that the person is able, under the law of a country or territory outside the United Kingdom, to become a national of such a country or territory.”
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 15:50
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If there are no legal obstacles to prevent her coming back to her country of citizenship, OK, let her in, but terminate her parental responsibilities (and rights) immediately after she gives birth to the baby. Is it possible in the UK? If yes, then the best solution would be to "hide" the child from her forever with no ends ever visible for her. If not, there is indeed a high risk that in some 15-20 years there would be one more suicide-ready bomber inside the country.

I recall it was a case here in Moscow a couple of years ago when a Russian (slavic!) girl (though above the legal age, some 20 y.o. university student) escaped to Syria to meet a "fiance". Her dad went to Turkey and organised a search for her. She was found in a camp in Syria and taken away (I assume by the guys specially hired for this operation).
When she was brought into the court in Russia her family submitted plenty of pseudo-medical docs that was not mentally stable (and other crap like this), was going just to marry and not to fight, etc. Plus she was swearing that "never ever again". However, all her communiqués via phone and I-net were monitored and in reality she kept talking to ISIS thugs.
The verdict was: 4.5 years in jail. I think she is still enoying stay there...

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Old 14th Feb 2019, 16:33
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It seems her ‘husband’ and, presumably, father of the child she bears is a Dutch Jihadi so why doesn’t she go to the Netherlands?

No doubt the liberal left will soon start a campaign to ‘Bring Her Home’ and before long we will be told how wonderful she is and that all she wants is a nice council flat so she can watch East Enders with her baybee!
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 16:36
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I believe social services can indeed take the baby away and have done so with white single mothers.

In this case I think she wanted it to be taken by social services.

Why did the first two die? Malnutrition? She doesn't look particularly under nourished and could have breast fed her children. I am told it is very difficulty to become pregnant while breast feeding.
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 16:40
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Has she indicated an opinion on who or what she thinks is responsible for the death of her first two children?

Unless the answer is "me" then leave her where she is.
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 16:47
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Originally Posted by WingNut60 View Post
Has she indicated an opinion on who or what she thinks is responsible for the death of her first two children?

Unless the answer is "me" then leave her where she is.
This is what has been reported:

Ms Begum said losing her two children came as a shock. "It just came out of nowhere, it was so hard."

Her daughter died at the age of one year and nine months and was buried in Baghuz a month ago.

Her second child died three months ago at just eight months old of an illness compounded by malnutrition, the Times reports.

She said she took him to a hospital but there were no drugs and not enough staff.She said she was now "really overprotective" of her unborn child and was scared it would become ill if she stayed in the refugee camp."That's why I really want to get back to Britain because I know it will be taken care of - health-wise, at least," she said.
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 16:51
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Is she really pregnant, or is she hiding a bomb under there? Can't trust 'em!
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 17:01
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."That's why I really want to get back to Britain because I know it will be taken care of - health-wise, at least,"
That last remark hardly suggests that she has any particular respect for our institutions or way of life.........
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 17:07
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"The group aimed to raise a new generation of children supporting its so-called caliphate "
From:- https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47240100
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 17:22
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No remorse for what she did, no remorse for what ISIS did to other people, no remorse about anything, even one of her children dying due to malnutrition / lack of medicines and hospital staff in this utopian Caliphate she went to support..

BUT she now wants to come back to to the UK so her latest baby can grow up healthy, courtesy of the NHS, and the benefits her abandoned nation that she wanted to help destroy, would give her.

I'm going to burn in hell with some for being 'un-humanitarian' but I say no. She can stay there. She made her bed and she can now lie in it.
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 17:29
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Originally Posted by Noah Zark. View Post
Is she really pregnant, or is she hiding a bomb under there? Can't trust 'em!

You have a point there. Could be a time bomb set to go off in 15-20 years. If our gov`t have any sense at all, they will consult our bomb disposal boys before making a decision on precautionary measures and how to handle this one.
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 17:31
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My fag packet calculation is she became pregnant within 2 months of each birth. Is there any reason to suspect she won't become pregnant by May assuming she is free to travel. Remember though, she doesn't have a passport.
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 17:33
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While she is a British citizen I saw in one forum the sperm impregnator was Dutch. If it is born in a Syrian camp what is babies nationality?
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 17:46
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She went there in order to kill me. Personally. And SWMBO. And the daughters. and the grand daughter.
She can stay there. For ever.
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 17:59
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
While she is a British citizen I saw in one forum the sperm impregnator was Dutch. If it is born in a Syrian camp what is babies nationality?
The child will be British as it will be born to a British mother.
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