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Old 6th Feb 2019, 08:33
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Originally Posted by NoelEvans View Post
A final comment about Latin: would vidi vinci veni be seen as 'non-PC' these days?!
No, only as being mis-spelt and in the wrong order.

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Old 6th Feb 2019, 09:37
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Like some on here I attended private and public schools. The private school (boarding) was located adjacent to Greenwich Park (now located to Peaselake in Surrey) and was for the sons of RAF personnel who had died 'in service'. There was only 60 of us. Every Sunday we had to attend the Royal Naval College for Church service, some were chosen for the choir.
I can never remember any snobbery. I wouldn't have known what it meant anyway. Everyone being from a similar background probably discounted the self importance that some may have encountered. We can't even remember any initiation or bullying.

The Public school, near Oxford, was more varied. Again it was boarding, but there was 240 of us spread over 7 houses. Again attending Church was compulsory, as was Latin to start with. Uniform and strict discipline again may have prevented the snobbery presenting itself in some of the students.
No one can remember any expulsions, although there must have been some. The variety of students lives since has ranged from a musicians in Pink Floyd, Killing Joke, Airline Pilots, skate board champion, Professors etc to high ranking Police Officers.
Today, the Old Boys talk about the overriding friendships, good times and the genuine respect for the former teachers.



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Old 6th Feb 2019, 10:07
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I wish I had been taught carpentry Bergerie1. Coming from a family of skilled tradesmen (joiner, builder, motor mechanic etc) I am the family black sheep who is completely useless with his hands, I remember framing a picture once and showing the pathetic result to my joiner brother, who advised me to use a sharper penknife to cut the mitres next time!
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Old 6th Feb 2019, 10:31
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My carpentry teacher at school was a git and put me off. Metalwork teacher was great, a real character. Unfortunately I was no bloody good at it. Such skills as I have now are it here self taught or thanks to mate who helped me out in the early days of home ownership...
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Old 6th Feb 2019, 10:45
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At a near by prep school there was a definite social snobbery. Farmers' children in particular looked down on Service brats who they thought were getting a free education. Reminding them that Daddy paid for their fees from farm subsidies quietened them down. Then Master Gp Capt had to be reined in when trying to pull rank on Master Cpl.
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Old 6th Feb 2019, 10:50
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Tread, I was taught 'a bad workman blames his tools' but at 8 trying to cut oak with a blunt saw, I don't have a chance.

Later, welding, hammering, tempering and other exciting things was reserved for 'thickos ' who could be let near Bunsen burners, sulphuric acid, magnesium and phosphorus. I know which was more useful in later life.
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Old 6th Feb 2019, 11:10
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welding, hammering, tempering and other exciting things was reserved for 'thickos '
Industry cannot get them any more, they all go to university and get a useless degree. They now get them from Eastern Europe.
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Old 6th Feb 2019, 11:58
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After infant school and middle school (equivalent of Junior High) I was educated for two years at Cherwell High School, Oxford (state school) and then spent the remaining three years at Eton College (public school) after having won a scholarship. Switching from the state school system to the public school system took a fair bit of adjustment, as you can probably imagine. Being an oddball (state school educated commoner, arriving two years late) I fully expected to be used as a toast rack by a bunch of Lord Snootys for the length of my incarceration. I'm pleased to report that it never happened and with only very few exceptions my fellow Etonians were gentlemen all. Eton is a great 'leveller' and if some titled toff thought they were above us proles then they were quickly brought down to our level. The most arrogant I came across was Dependra (Dippy) of Nepal, who by virtue of being a demi-god in the eyes of 'his' people proved a tough nut to crack. He calmed down a bit in the end, but it all went a bit pear-shaped when he finished his education and returned to the land of his fathers. He fell in love with a 'commoner' and, after being told that the match wasn't suitable, flew into rage and killed nine members of his family before turning the gun on himself. He reigned as king for just three days whilst in a coma. Bloody fool...

Current Lord Snooty poster boy Jacob Rees-Mogg was a couple of years above me and I can assure you that he was the exception rather than the rule when it comes to seeing how many plums you can stuff into your mouth. Didn't really know him, but fruity accent aside, seemed a decent fellow.
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Old 6th Feb 2019, 16:07
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Originally Posted by treadigraph View Post
My carpentry teacher at school was a git and put me off. Metalwork teacher was great, a real character. Unfortunately I was no bloody good at it. Such skills as I have now are it here self taught or thanks to mate who helped me out in the early days of home ownership...
My metalwork teacher must have been the only one in the UK, or even the world possibly, who could play the National Anthem with his finger flicking through the flame of a welding torch.
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Old 6th Feb 2019, 16:45
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
No, only as being mis-spelt and in the wrong order.
I had hoped that someone who could understand Latin would have replied to that comment of mine.
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Old 6th Feb 2019, 17:20
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If anyone can remember Evans 'walking backwards to Christmas across the irish Sea' she or he might understand his delightful comments.
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Old 6th Feb 2019, 18:34
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Originally Posted by NoelEvans View Post
I had hoped that someone who could understand Latin would have replied to that comment of mine.
You'll be pleased to know that the non-PC meaning of the order you chose was not wasted on everyone.

DRUK, whilst quick to point out the misspelt word, missed the key point of the deliberately changed sequence to give the non-PC twist. I'm sure pleasure 'comes' from his own little conquests.
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Old 6th Feb 2019, 19:22
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Alas, the Romans had a completely different verb for that, they wouldn't have seen the joke coming.
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Old 6th Feb 2019, 19:28
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DR, anyway, they did it by pictures.
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Our school produced some well known entertainers, ranging from Clarissa Dickson-Wright and Dillie Keane, to Vivian Leigh, Marsha Fitzalan (Now she really was posh) and Catrina Skepper, she of the "Flake" and Pretty Polly ads!

What about public school girls? We didn't get beaten. We were usually very hungry and so cold all through the winter that we got chilblains, too busy clinging to one radiator to play up much. We were only allowed two very shallow baths a week and to wash our hair once a week. That, for a teenage girl, is a form of torture. If you were really naughty you would be "gated" ie not allowed out, not even for weddings or funerals. If a girl didn't own up to her crime the whole school would be gated indefinitely. On Fridays there would be "notes" where the nuns would classify the behaviour of every single girl one by one in front of the whole school. The "nurse" was a nonce tho whether male or female none of us could tell. We had one TV for the whole school, when you were a senior you were allowed to watch "Top of the Pops", the whole school crammed into one room trying to get a glimpse of Bryan Ferry (who did actually marry an Old Girl, Lucy) or Rod Stewart's bum!

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Old 7th Feb 2019, 06:16
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
At a near by prep school there was a definite social snobbery. Farmers' children in particular looked down on Service brats who they thought were getting a free education. Reminding them that Daddy paid for their fees from farm subsidies quietened them down. Then Master Gp Capt had to be reined in when trying to pull rank on Master Cpl.
We can only hope this temporary hiatus in the status quo had no long term traumatic effects before being resumed some years later, this time assisted by Mrs Gp Captain ....

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Old 7th Feb 2019, 08:04
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Rodney School was co-ed and the founding principal and also the last, Miss Thomas, was an equal opportunities head: she caned girls and boys.

In Scotland the tawse was used in hands and legs and a wooden ruler used on the open hand too.
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Old 7th Feb 2019, 09:17
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Originally Posted by NoelEvans View Post
I had hoped that someone who could understand Latin would have replied to that comment of mine.
It's incomplete. The full version, as once seen on a T-shirt is "Bibi, Vidi, Vici, Veni"...
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Old 7th Feb 2019, 11:11
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Interested in your account of life in a girl's public school Clare Prop. I see that Dilly Keane was expelled!

While doing teacher training I was chatting to a girl on our course who had been at a similar sounding girls' public school to yours. She remarked that girls there were forbidden to have long handled hair brushes. I naively asked her if that was because they could be used as weapons in dormitory fights. She gave me a scornful look and told me that I would have to work out the real reason myself!
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Old 7th Feb 2019, 11:31
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That would be we saw, we conquered, we came which doesn't make sense!

My dad used to mark latin and greek A levels and would often be helpless with laughter over some of the translations. He also told me that "Romani Ite Domum" was incorrect, though not as bad as Brian's Romanes eunt domus

Meanwhile, one of the most useful things I learned I five years of latin was the immortal words of Captain Kirk: Ad eundum quo nemo ante iit. As for greek, after five years of that ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα.
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