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Old 27th Dec 2018, 06:40
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Sky news top story this morning

"Plastic bags".I shall leave it there.
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 07:50
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Also the only front page news in the 'i'.
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 08:19
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Well, I do hate them with a passion and rip them to shreds after reluctant usage (and secondary purposing), but didn't think it would make the news.
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 08:31
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Mail bags are more exciting.
Especially when being gathered or dispatched on a model railway.
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 08:53
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Originally Posted by ericsson16 View Post
"Plastic bags".I shall leave it there.
Well at least they are running news this morning. The BBC, with it's signer in the right hand side of the screen is totally unwatchable!!
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 08:54
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I preferred their story about re-opening some of the 'Beechinged' railway lines; HS2 route along the 'old' GCR/LNER route would qualify if the dickheads hadn't sold some of the old trackbed for, wait for it, housing.
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 09:16
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Unfortunately SKY News has become more politically correct that the BBC.

I switched to SKY years ago to get a more balanced view but now don’t know were to get my news. Maybe RT��
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 13:10
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Originally Posted by Capn Notarious View Post
Especially when being gathered or dispatched on a model railway.
Are we talking HO scale? Always been a fan of HO scale.
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 13:44
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Are we talking HO scale? Always been a fan of HO scale.
I had the OO scale Triang Mail Coach set many years ago ('60s) but nowadays I only operate HOe narrow gauge.
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 14:29
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I thought this might be about some "artificially enhanced" actress or other.
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 15:54
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At last the government are taking some serious and decisive action against the drones plastic bags which bring our airports to a standstill.
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 16:29
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Originally Posted by vctenderness View Post
Unfortunately SKY News has become more politically correct that the BBC.

I switched to SKY years ago to get a more balanced view but now don’t know were to get my news. Maybe RT��
Allow me to commend C4 News.....totally balanced and with excellent reporters and interviewers. A word of caution however.....watching this programme may induce a surge in mental activity with the erudite content.

Back to plastic bags..shurely the Mail's crusade did rid the world of this scourge ?.....well according to the modest headlines splashed across the front page that is.
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 16:42
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Unfortunately SKY News has become more politically correct that the BBC.
And that isn't easy!
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 17:06
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The only thing on Channel 4 with erudite content is The Simpsons...
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 17:21
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I laugh at the fact that most people think it is our problem. No way! The problem with plastic packaging, especially disposing plastic into rivers, seas and oceans, is mainly happening in Asian countries like India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, China and Thailand.

There is no point in us "doing our bit" since we are in the minority and the majority of this is happening in those countries listed above.
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 17:32
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But isn't the argument that if we in the West ban plastic packaging then the manufacturer's will come up with an alternative that will eventually filter down to those countries
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 17:33
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But isn't the argument that if we in the West ban plastic packaging then the manufacturer's will come up with an alternative that will eventually filter down to those countries
Absolutely not. Only in a dream world would that happen because the culprits in those less developed nations are not bothered. The manufacturers will still produce the packaging for their own countries.
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 19:32
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Over 90% of the plastic in the oceans is issuing from from the 6 rivers in Asia, the amoun entering the sea from Europe is minuscule, and the effect of th billions being spent to reduce it is nugatory.

The environmental cost of producing a “bag for life”, including the chemicals washed directly into the oceans at far greater effect, is such that each such bag would hav to be used over 300 times before it reduced the environmental cost below that of a disposable bag - the average life is below 150.

But it makes the greens and the environmentalists feel if they are doing something, at a far higher opportunity cost.

https://www.continentaltelegraph.com...acked-lunches/

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Old 27th Dec 2018, 19:44
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But isn't the argument that if we in the West ban plastic packaging then the manufacturer's will come up with an alternative that will eventually filter down to those countries
The problem is levies or taxes are pointless, my pay for bags still go in the bin, being honest here, If you made them 50P I would still probably chuck them.
The problem is supply and demand, you supply them and there will be a demand, stop supplying them and the demand is gone, you then have to find your alternate means to carry stuff.
Sorry but the world has gone plastic mad, think about it, we actually have been conned by marketing into buying plastic bags to simply wrap our rubbish in to dispose of it and throw away.
Personally I feel land fill is laying down resources for future generations, I can quite easily see plastics being mined from landfills and reprocessed when the technology exists and oil is becoming scarce.

The failed Bin Tax... that never addressed the issue, it simply allowed manufacturers to carry on packing stuff in multiple layers of plastic waste and then punish the consumer......... EASY fix, legislate the amount of packaging or fine / tax those using excess, simple.
Really pissed off the women in Tescos one week when I peeled off about 4 layers of packaging and left it at her till, telling her I was buying the goods not the plastic...

Sugar Tax, I cannot believe people pushed for this and wanted it, if you're a sugar junkie, 2p on your can of pop isn't going to mean squat, legislate the maximum amount of sugar and salt in foods would..

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Old 27th Dec 2018, 20:32
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Originally Posted by ORAC View Post
Over 90% of the plastic in the oceans is issuing from from the 6 rivers in Asia, the amoun entering the sea from Europe is minuscule, and the effect of th billions being spent to reduce it is nugatory.

The environmental cost of producing a “bag for life”, including the chemicals washed directly into the oceans at far greater effect, is such that each such bag would hav to be used over 300 times before it reduced the environmental cost below that of a disposable bag - the average life is below 150.

But it makes the greens and the environmentalists feel if they are doing something, at a far higher opportunity cost.

https://www.continentaltelegraph.com...acked-lunches/
This post brings tears of happiness to my eyes!
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