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Old 9th Nov 2018, 06:08
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UK motoring fuel prices

We just seem to sit back in the UK and let the fuel companies take us for a ride my local supermarket latest price is 1.27 for petrol but 1.37 for diesel. I recently went to Spain and there the petrol is more expensive than the diesel. Is it that the Spanish wouldn't let they're government get away with it or are we just getting ripped off in the UK and we just sit back and take it.
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Old 9th Nov 2018, 06:26
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New Zealand .. 95 grade, approx $2.40 per LITRE slightly variable depending upon which Robber Baron one is buying from.
​​​​​​​around 5 quid + per UK gallon.
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Old 9th Nov 2018, 06:52
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Originally Posted by ExSp33db1rd View Post
New Zealand .. 95 grade, approx $2.40 per LITRE slightly variable depending upon which Robber Baron one is buying from.
​​​​​​​around 5 quid + per UK gallon.
When I first started driving, you could get four gallons for a quid!

Filled up with 95RON yesterday, it was 1.44 a litre, (around 1.25).
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Old 9th Nov 2018, 06:58
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Enjoy that bargain while you can Speedy!

Regular unleaded at my local here on the border of SE London, which generally is as cheap if not slightly cheaper than the alternatives, is presently 1.32/litre ie. 6 per UK gallon...
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And heaven forbid you need fuel on a motor way with a 20p/ltr mark up and some people pay.

A 3p/ltr is not so bad.
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Old 9th Nov 2018, 08:37
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Shell garage on the A421 at Marston Moretaine diesel is 146.9 per litre

why do they insist on xxx.9?
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Old 9th Nov 2018, 08:53
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Yes, motorway prices are so extreme that last time I only put in 10 litres.
BIG mistake.
The bill has never come through - it was the CHEAPEST petrol I have ever "bought".
So it is true - You can't lose them all.
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Old 9th Nov 2018, 10:10
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The oil companies always come back with the old red herring about the major part of the retail price being tax/duty. That is true but this is a pro rata percentage no matter what the basic pre tax price is, and does not in any way excuse them from not dropping the price when the wholesale price goes down - after all they are quick enough to raise it when prices are going the other way. Why doesn't some government body (monopolies commission?) take them to task over this?

Actually this hardly affects me - I drive so little these days I have no idea what I spend on petrol per month or what the mpg of my old tank of a Volvo is, but I feel for my son who clocks up a big mileage paid for out of his own pocket

Finally, we have been buying petrol in litres for at least 30 years now - why do we still talk about mpg? Has anyone in the UK any idea how many miles per litre their car does, or indeed litres per 100 km which is the way the continentals do it?
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Old 9th Nov 2018, 11:49
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I recently went to Spain and there the petrol is more expensive than the diesel. Is it that the Spanish wouldn't let they're government get away with it or are we just getting ripped off in the UK and we just sit back and take it.
I I recently went to England and there the diesel is more expensive than the petrol. Is it that the British wouldn't let their government get away with it or are getting ripped off in Spain and we just sit back and take it?
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Part of the problem in the UK is refinery capacity; we have a comparative shortage of diesel production compared to petrol.
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Old 9th Nov 2018, 12:20
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Funnily enough petrol (regular unleaded) is often cheaper in the UK than it is in The Netherlands. We're now enjoying a, by comparison, pretty low price of 1.52 per liter (lowest I can find in the neighbourhood), which is approx. 1.33. The average price is around 1.59 per liter with motorway stations asking for 1.70 per liter.
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Old 9th Nov 2018, 15:40
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Originally Posted by Mariner9 View Post
I I recently went to England and there the diesel is more expensive than the petrol. Is it that the British wouldn't let their government get away with it or are getting ripped off in Spain and we just sit back and take it?
Only in UK(?) amongst European countries is diesel more expensive. I always assumed that 20% of that is VAT and haulage companies can reclaim as input tax?
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Old 9th Nov 2018, 17:05
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There is to be a nationwide protest against high fuel prices on Sat 17th November here in France, with road blocks being set up to disrupt traffic.
I'll just stay at home that day.

Info and map here...

https://www.thelocal.fr/20181106/map...-this-november
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I have a vague recollection that years ago the Chancellor was worried that the rush to fuel efficient diesel cars would rob him of revenue, so he made sure taxpayer couldn't win by imposing a tax differential between petrol and diesel.
Of course, I could be wrong about that.
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Old 9th Nov 2018, 18:46
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Originally Posted by sitigeltfel View Post
When I first started driving, you could get four gallons for a quid!

Filled up with 95RON yesterday, it was 1.44 a litre, (around 1.25).

In summer 1966 I had a Sunday job at a filling station in Sth Manchester and can remember quite clearly that a gallon of petrol ( we didn't sell diesel ) was 4 / 2p, so five gallons for what is now 1.05p

I wonder if there is anything else which has risen in price by the same percentage as petrol / diesel has since 1966 ?
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Old 9th Nov 2018, 18:54
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Originally Posted by sitigeltfel View Post
When I first started driving, you could get four gallons for a quid!
Yes, that's right, and tanks were smaller then so that was a tank full.
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Old 9th Nov 2018, 19:06
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In old money i used to fill my 124 fiat coupe (20 gal) for a fiver ( was parity then)
now slightly more modern fiat coupe costs (60 lt) on average 85 euro. (dont live in UK)
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Old 9th Nov 2018, 19:25
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This is what Idon't understand.

Back in the day when oil was $140 a barrel we could buy gas at 80 to 99c a litre. Now oil is down around $70 a barrel (and it has been down to $50.) we are paying $1.49 a litre. Someone somewhere is making (ripping us off for) the difference but no one seems able to tell us who.
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Old 9th Nov 2018, 19:49
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Originally Posted by ChrisVJ View Post
This is what Idon't understand.

Back in the day when oil was $140 a barrel we could buy gas at 80 to 99c a litre. Now oil is down around $70 a barrel (and it has been down to $50.) we are paying $1.49 a litre. Someone somewhere is making (ripping us off for) the difference but no one seems able to tell us who.
I was just thinking the same myself, the price we are paying is, I am guessing, the same as it was when oil was over $100.00 a barrel.
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Old 9th Nov 2018, 20:44
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The government is the one raking in the cash. Petrol is a completely non - differentiated product, it's basically the same whoever you buy it from, and there are plenty of producers so margins are razer thin. Just look at the differences in price, EU vs US vs Middle East for example. The only difference is that EU governments massively shaft the population.
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