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Old 5th Nov 2018, 21:33
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Simple things made stupidly complicated....


Like how many genders there are.


That should rile up some of the more “progressive” lefties here.
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Old 5th Nov 2018, 21:48
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Originally Posted by West Coast View Post
Simple things made stupidly complicated....

Like how many genders there are.
The simple response, to decomplicate it, is "I don't care what people say they are" - that way you don't even need two.

(Possibly best not to say that out loud, though, in some company.)
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Old 5th Nov 2018, 22:41
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Originally Posted by Blues&twos View Post
The building where my office is based is only a few years old and has automtic everything. It is incredibly irritating. Especially the automatic taps.
Try rinsing your contact lenses under a tap when you can't control the flow/temperature and when the tap will only come on if you have something very close to the sensor. Rrrggh.
Tight wad..................... get proper saline water to do so rather than relying on local water company to have clean water coming through....
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Old 5th Nov 2018, 22:45
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
I also wonder if they ever check that everything was scanned.
Self Scanning is reckoned to lose up to 1% a day in takings depending on the store................... its why certain high value items are tagged.
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Old 5th Nov 2018, 22:49
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Originally Posted by BehindBlueEyes View Post
On the supermarket theme; why a security tag on a £5 hand held mixer or £10 bottle of wine but not on £12 box of dishwasher tablets or £20 bag of dog food?
Size and try putting the later 2 under your jacket........................... you would look like a fat git................. well maybe fatter git in my case
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Old 5th Nov 2018, 23:02
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Originally Posted by radeng View Post
I never use self check out. I've got to know several of the check out staff at Tesco and always look for them. some of them are friendly ladies: two often have adjoining tills are the 'checkout chicks' according to them - good looking ladies in their 40s. Nice bit of human interaction: one has a daughter at Oxford university so I ask after her: the other has a 17 year son about to fitted with an implanted defibrillator with radio in it - and I spent the last 11 years of my working life doing systems engineering on such radios. Another is the daughter of a local radio amateur that I know, so I ask after him, too. Being pleasant to them means that will help when necessary.
Yup do that as well.
One store had young Identical twin sisters working there................... as was always in at a specific time on a Friday one was there and always chatty. Went in one Sat afternoon and both sitting side by side.................. one reminded me she could lip read my "WTF" but thing my face probably said that as well which had them both laughing.
They said they often ensure they got tills next to each other to confuse the hell out of customers, or changed the names badges to confuse the supervisors.

Lidl have no self tills.
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Old 5th Nov 2018, 23:04
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Originally Posted by West Coast View Post
Simple things made stupidly complicated....
Like how many genders there are.
That should rile up some of the more “progressive” lefties here.
M / F / NIWTFTA should suffice
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Old 5th Nov 2018, 23:27
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Originally Posted by Gertrude the Wombat View Post
The simple response, to decomplicate it, is "I don't care what people say they are" - that way you don't even need two.

(Possibly best not to say that out loud, though, in some company.)
Yes, one gets labeled for using the outdoor voice on this topic. Either way it’s blood silly that in some circles there’s twenty something genders.

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........taken to a check in desk to stand in front of a real person,
As crew, itinerary changed, collect ( old fashioned ) tickets at the airport - check-in clerk said " the computer is down, I can't print your tickets so you won't be able to travel". The Flt. Eng. silently handed her his pen. We flew.

the stupidly complicated bath/shower mixer.
Yes, the complexity of so many various designs is overwhelming.

If I have a bottle of wine in my shopping and a member of staff asks be to give proof of age I just do some mental arithmetic..
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Which they can't do. Last time I pointed out that she needed my money, to pay her salary, more than I needed her beer, put it down and walked out. Did she really think I was under 21, maybe I should have given her a kiss ! ( then been arrested for sexual harrassment )

Why on earth do people wait till they've packed every item they've bought before realising that they are going to have to pay? I thought women were supposed to be good at multi-tasking,
All the time rummaging around in the bottom of some voluminous bag, muttering .. " I know I brought it, it's in here somewhere "

"What sort of a day have you had so far ?"
One day I'll tell them, that'll stop that nonsense.

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Old 6th Nov 2018, 00:28
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Originally Posted by West Coast View Post
Yes, one gets labeled for using the outdoor voice on this topic. Either way it’s blood silly that in some circles there’s twenty something genders.
The problem arose when questionnaires started using "Gender", presumably as a euphemism for the information that was actually being elicited, which was "SEX".
Can't use THAT word in polite society now, can we.
But at least, with very few exceptions, there are only two to choose from.
And it's not open to self-interpretation.
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Old 6th Nov 2018, 00:52
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Old 6th Nov 2018, 05:32
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Originally Posted by Buster11 View Post
It's not the checkout operators that bother me (although Lidl's scanners seem to work very much faster than most other stores and not need each item's barcode to be accurately lined up) but the person at the front of the queue. Why on earth do people wait till they've packed every item they've bought before realising that they are going to have to pay? I thought women were supposed to be good at multi-tasking, but it surely can't be hard to get the card or the money ready while they're in the queue, or at least to initiate the paying process, whether card or cash, as soon as the bill appears. That way the packing can be done while the change is counted or the card reader's doing its thing. That's why I go for the self service checkout every time. I don't regard shopping as a social occasion but a neccessity.
There may be a reason which has escaped your notice as to why Lidl, and Aldi, have faster scanners.....such as having a limited product range in comparison to other retailers perhaps.?

However, in the finest traditions of JB, it's reassuring to learn the male of the species is faultless in comparison to the lesser species otherwise known as......women...who, it seems, are incapable of performing the process of shopping unless supervised by a male !

Then there's the mental arithmetic to consider

Clearly, with a trolley or even basket full of items, the chap will have worked out, whilst waiting in the queue, the precise amount if paying cash or have brandished his card ready to insert or swipe the moment the till displays the amount whilst simultaneously loading the bags......a load sheet may also be required for some at this point....with the goods purchased. Now that's multi-tasking for you !

Alas, given we've all shopped, and queued, over the years, and whilst I make no claims as to this being by no means a scientifically based analysis you understand, I have noticed that individuals of both genders, are both capable and incapable in equal measure when shopping. There have even been times, when, I have forgotten an item and dashed back to the aisle to collect it......dashed poor show for a chap there I know !..but, there again, I'm human and therefore fallible.

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Old 6th Nov 2018, 07:04
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"There may be a reason which has escaped your notice as to why Lidl, and Aldi, have faster scanners"
At a guess, 95% of products sold in these stores are own label, with packaging designed by the retailers. If you look at the packaging you will see that many of the bar codes 'wrap round' the packaging, or take up a significant proportion of the printed surface, allowing the barcodes to be easily read, whatever orientation the product is presented to the scanner, thus allowing for faster scanning.
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Old 6th Nov 2018, 07:25
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Originally Posted by racedo View Post
Self Scanning is reckoned to lose up to 1% a day in takings depending on the store................... its why certain high value items are tagged.
Chap, recently jailed, got a buzz from cheating the self-scan checkouts. He kept a number of reduced offer labels and would 're-price things. Got away with it for a time.
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Old 6th Nov 2018, 11:49
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Some 20+ years ago we were on holiday in Germany and shopped at Aldi, or possibly Lidl. This was before UK supermarkets used barcodes, and we were amazed at the speed with which the checkout operators keyed in the prices - particularly since none of the packets/tins/cartons had prices on them. Either they were making the prices up, had memorised them all, or the shop used a small number of standard prices - one price for tins, another for cartons, and so on. It would have been impossible for us to check that they'd done it correctly if we'd had more than a few items, since the receipt obviously didn't say what each price related to.
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Old 6th Nov 2018, 12:24
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Originally Posted by Innominate View Post
Some 20+ years ago we were on holiday in Germany and shopped at Aldi, or possibly Lidl. This was before UK supermarkets used barcodes, and we were amazed at the speed with which the checkout operators keyed in the prices - particularly since none of the packets/tins/cartons had prices on them. Either they were making the prices up, had memorised them all, or the shop used a small number of standard prices - one price for tins, another for cartons, and so on. It would have been impossible for us to check that they'd done it correctly if we'd had more than a few items, since the receipt obviously didn't say what each price related to.
They were required to memorise the prices and codes.
Remember Lidl and Aldi using UK examples do not employ Temporary workers like the rest of the retail Industry.................. they employ permanent staff with flexible hours if required.
In mid 1990's Aldi were paying £10 per hour for staff in Birmingham while pubs were paying £3.50................... this is why you see few teenagers working there, then and now.
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Originally Posted by vaqueroaero View Post
Just enjoyed the delightful experience of eating breakfast at Orlando International Airport. Take my trash to the trash can and discover that I have to wave my hand over a sensor that in turn will open the door that will allow me to put my trash in the trash can. I'm holding bags in one hand and a trash covered tray in the other, so no free hands, so therefore I can't throw away my trash. Who in their right mind thought this was a great idea? Not to mention the cost of the stupid thing. What's wrong with a large container with a big hole in the top?
I can make a stab at the thinking behind that desgn.

Firstly, the bin is indoors at a food court. That means that there will be significant amount of leftovers that gets thown into the bin. Someone suggested that the bin needs a door to keep the smell in. Manual versions of such bins where you need to push open the flap door to throw rubbish away are quite common around food courts.

The next step in the evolution came from some squeamish people who decided that they do not want to touch a public bin because GERMS! DISEASES! COOTIES! (which they put at the same risk as flesh eating bacteria). So the bin manufacturers kindly accomodated them with the non-touch, auto-opening bin; charging the premises ten times as much, and selling them as hygenic and technically advanced to the centre management.

At the end, it is considered a win-win-win: the manufacturer gets much higher revenues and profits, the centre management gets to sell their premises as being higher class and responding to the needs to fheir customers, and the customers think that they are protected from the scary germs (which they picked up anyway from the tabletops, chairs, escalator handrails, etc).

That would be in most people's minds what is known as progress and another fine example of how capitalism delivers what most people want more cheaply and efficiently.

[Hopefully I did not overdo the sarcasm and tipped over into the grumpy old codger category]
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"....and the customers think that they are protected from the scary germs (which they picked up anyway from the tabletops, chairs, escalator handrails, etc..."

<applause>

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Originally Posted by Mac the Knife View Post
"....and the customers think that they are protected from the scary germs (which they picked up anyway from the tabletops, chairs, escalator handrails, etc..."

<applause>

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Yup,,,
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