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Old 12th Dec 2019, 10:32
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the midden-based policies of the latest revision of the Tory Party and its odious leader.
And here speaks the living proof of the so called "gentler politics" of the lefties.
It seems that all of the vitriol and bile that is spewed out, about politicians and parties, emanate from the Labour party apologists.
I have never seen such utterances as "Tory Scum, I'd like to go back in time and assassinate Margaret Thatcher, I could never be friends with a Conservative" and on and on in the same vein,
turned around and used against opponents by anyone in the Conservative and Unionist party.
Shame on you CJ. I thought you were rational, I was mistaken.
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Old 12th Dec 2019, 10:53
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Originally Posted by denachtenmai View Post
And here speaks the living proof of the so called "gentler politics" of the lefties.
It seems that all of the vitriol and bile that is spewed out, about politicians and parties, emanate from the Labour party apologists.
I have never seen such utterances as "Tory Scum, I'd like to go back in time and assassinate Margaret Thatcher, I could never be friends with a Conservative" and on and on in the same vein,
turned around and used against opponents by anyone in the Conservative and Unionist party.
Shame on you CJ. I thought you were rational, I was mistaken.
You probably missed those stalwart representatives of the ( former, as it's being rebranded soon ) Brexit party in Hartlepool as featured on C4 News a couple of nights ago then......

Neither do you appear to have read the content of the link you provided......

Not unsurprisingly, you wouldn't hear the views about the unlamented deceased....from those in her own party.

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Old 12th Dec 2019, 11:23
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Let's face it. The leadership of both major parties is composed of equally vile, extremist shite. None of them should be holding power in what used to be a great civilised democracy.

You can go on confronting each other as much as you like, it doesn't make you look any better to people trying to decide whether voting is of any use..
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Old 12th Dec 2019, 11:23
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Neither do you appear to have read the content of the link you provided......

Not unsurprisingly, you wouldn't hear the views about the unlamented deceased....from those in her own party.
Link?
Unlamented by you and your ilk, but not one of her own party who denigrated her used the gutter language of the lefties.
I did say Conservative and Unionist party NOT any other
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Old 12th Dec 2019, 11:24
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So this is who KnC and his ilk want as the Home Secretary from Friday.
Not only two odd shoes, but appropriately, two left ones at that...

FFS the woman can't even dress properly...


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Old 12th Dec 2019, 11:26
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Shame on you CJ. I thought you were rational, I was mistaken.
I will bear my shame with fortitude and search diligently (without hope of success) for evidence of my Left-wing leanings or promotion of gentler politics! Assumptions such as those inevitably lead to errors but little unusual about that. In fact, I quite like robust politics but prefer them to be based on actual observation and reasoning rather than assumptions based on prejudice. Hey ho, "plus ca change"
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Old 12th Dec 2019, 11:31
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.John”Why aren’t we lynching the bitch”McDonnell. To this day no retraction or apology. Gentler politics indeed!

How can anyone use the words “conviction politician” in same sentence as “Jeremy Corbyn” when he has no conviction on the biggest political issue of the generation, his policy flip-flopping with undisguised opportunism
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Old 12th Dec 2019, 11:39
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The use in the article of “riddled” and your use of “rampant”,are ludicrously disingenuous and overwrought, worthy of. Daily Fail leader writer. Does the Labour Party have an issue with ant-semitism ,of course, have various media sources made political capitol of it,absolutely,but the language used is completely overblown and you believe the Chief Rabbi’s comments were just about anti-semitism,then you’re rather naive!
If your and the presses faux outrage was also focussed on other political parties attitude to race,I might take your comments seriously.Your obviously partisan comments make you appear silly!
Nope, this isn't just about whether Corbyn is a bigger racist than Boris. It's about people who are obviously and knowingly AS being given key roles in the Labour party and those who have had complaints raised against them being either let off or not even investigated. It's not good enough to say all parties have similar problems or that Boris once said something.

AS may have always been widespread amongst Labour party membership but it was hidden. What Corbyn has done is to make those people think it is suddenly ok. Whether it is a sea of Palestinian flags being waved at the Labour conference, AS remarks being met with zero investigation or token suspensions of a couple of weeks or the huge numbers of AS supporters that have taken to social media and, over the course of his leadership become more and more vocal and nasty as they grow ever more confident that not only are their views shared by other supporters but by the leadership itself.

Of course, we will hear the old 'Anti-Zionism not Anti-Semitic' rubbish but nobody actually believes that. It just provides a convenient get-out clause for the reality that has probably always been there and now the genie has well and truly been let out of the bottle.

When large numbers of Jewish people are watching this election with bags packed and plans made to leave should Corbyn and co win then something is very wrong and trying to counter that with 'Boris once called someone a letterbox years ago' is frankly pathetic.

My prediction is a disastrous result for Labour as, thankfully, most people see him and his supporters for what they really are. We will then see those in the Labour party who do not share the more extreme views turn on him and the infighting begins. At this point, there will be lots of back peddling and deletion of tweets but we have seen them and those who supported him will be remembered. This leadership will be a stain on the Labour party that is going to follow them for years.
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Old 12th Dec 2019, 11:57
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Originally Posted by Nige321 View Post
So this is who KnC and his ilk want as the Home Secretary from Friday.
Not only two odd shoes, but appropriately, two left ones at that...

FFS the woman can't even dress properly...

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Photoshop? Can somebody please comment?

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Old 12th Dec 2019, 12:02
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I said the METAR's would feature ! .....there again, you could also say the current UK wx is the perfect metaphor for today...... and the future....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-50747813
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Old 12th Dec 2019, 12:19
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Originally Posted by Nige321 View Post
FFS the woman can't even dress properly...
Not a fan of this woman's politics and I don't know her. I do know from my social circle that women can get foot problems as they mature and often have to wear strange combinations of footwear just to get through the day. A possible reason.
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Old 12th Dec 2019, 12:45
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Jewish group unveils banner opposing Corbyn, Corbyn supporters accuse them of being paid by mossad, then start singing the hamas anthem.
No AS here then.



https://order-order.com/2019/12/12/l...-corbyn-rally/
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Old 12th Dec 2019, 13:08
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Grayfly, point accurate and well made. Perhaps Nige321 (oh God, No!! - not that one, please!) would recall his Leader's public appearances in finely tailored jogging oufits or his apparent inability to tuck his shirt in without the aid of Nanny ... pots and kettles?
If sartorial elegance is considered to be the mark of political competence, the Maybot lacked a competent fashion advisor and 'freezing fog' (J R-M) is working hard to disprove it!
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Old 12th Dec 2019, 13:25
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Grayfly, point accurate and well made. Perhaps Nige321 (oh God, No!! - not that one, please!) would recall his Leader's public appearances in finely tailored jogging oufits or his apparent inability to tuck his shirt in without the aid of Nanny ... pots and kettles?
If sartorial elegance is considered to be the mark of political competence, the Maybot lacked a competent fashion advisor and 'freezing fog' (J R-M) is working hard to disprove it!
Sorry, but at least Boris can get his shoes on in the right order.
And according to Mrs N, no sane woman would leave the house looking like that, bunions or not...
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Old 12th Dec 2019, 13:29
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JB should really have done what TV does and give it a rest for the day. However
I still cannot see why someone who reads the guardian is by definition a communist -when someone who reads or looks at the Daily Mail isnt a fascist because they are far closer to extremism than those slightly left of centre.

I think we should have followed Finlands model
34 year old Woman Pm with 28 year old Finance Minister-also a woman . They lead a five party coalition all parties being lead by women. We have two extremely unapealign leadrs to choose from, one out of touch and a ditherer the other well just scum really , lied to Queen, lies every day in his speeches and is notorious for reneging on every promise he makes. Both too old and far too ingrained in out of date politics and never done an honest days work in their life-OK BJ was journo but most of what he wrote was lies as he got sacked by two of the papers he wrote for for making up stories

We badly need a change from the left/ right swings and roundabouts of UK politics especially this time where Labour want to take us back to the 1950s and the Tories want to take us back to the 1850s but fat chance of that whoever wins

Two totally distrustful leaders
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Old 12th Dec 2019, 14:01
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I am not antisemitic and I don't believe the Labour party, as a party, is either. I am pro Palestine and I believe the Labour party is too. Of course, just as in every other political party in this country, there will be mavericks and, as far as I can tell, those within the Labour party who have been "found out" have been investigated and dealt with. On the other hand, we are still waiting for some sort of reaction from the Tory party over the latest batch of antisemitic Tory MPs to have been "outed".
As for "singing the Hamas anthem"; I didn't know they had one. And it seems they still don't. I watched the guido fawkes clip and there was nothing like a Hamas "anthem".
Someone mentioned something about Corbyn being a man of principles; that was exactly the view I had of him during his years on the back bench and I admired the way he stuck to his principles, whether that meant upsetting Tory or Labour leaders, he didn't care. As for Corbyn the leader, well, I think Labour could have done better than picking him!
I noted too a comment about Labour wanting to take us back to a 1950s Britain. There was a documentary on BBC last night about post WW2 Britain and how dangerous a place it was with all the new fangled stuff coming into our lives, blazing furnishings, killer electric irons etc. The young lady presenting the programme told us how, during the 1950s, people were making more money than ever before and basically living on easy street. It left me wondering which Britain it was that I was living in during the 1950s. Still, if we truly had "never had it so good", then let's go back to those times!
Can we now go back to "'Tis the season to be jolly", rather than the "'Tis the season to be nasty" which appears to be gaining some ground in this forum?
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Old 12th Dec 2019, 14:03
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Don't worry, plenty of us will be jolly tomorrow and your man can go back to the back benches where he belongs, he can take "My left feet" with him.

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Old 12th Dec 2019, 14:13
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I am not antisemitic and I don't believe the Labour party, as a party, is either.
The human rights commission do not investigate a party at random. Only the BNP share that. Maybe you think they are just misunderstood too?
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Old 12th Dec 2019, 14:21
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That’s exactly the point Kelvin: they were found out. But pointedly NOT dealt with. Many serious breaches resulted in either token sanction or none at all. It’s this which divides Labour today from the other parties INCLUDING Labour at any previous point in its history.
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Old 12th Dec 2019, 15:33
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Nige321 - I'm afraid you owe me a new keyboard!! Coffee everywhere after such a ringing endorsement of someone who may shamble into office to lead the country into post EU isolation!! ... Sorry, but at least Boris can get his shoes on in the right order.
There are no accompanying emoticons so I have to assume that it was straight-faced serious! You may, possibly, have missed your vocation in product endorsement or perhaps you really do feel that to be a high-point encouragement to vote for him!
The world is a gey strange place!
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