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Old 10th Dec 2019, 20:51
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Originally Posted by OilCan View Post
So what is the Tory, Brexit and UKIP message about?
Wasting your time OilCan. Unionists either cannot, or will not, see or acknowledge the parallels.
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 05:33
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Not often some form of political consensus appears on JB, but there again, it's equally rare that all the leaders of the main parties are viewed as liabilities in their own right.

In keeping with the rags readership backgrounds, the Mail has kindly given them a direct order.....the Sun, however, has probably just confused many by showing boxes being ticked....the confusion for Sun readers being that they will now be under the impression this is how to fill in their voting slips tomorrow

You could write the Sun's headlines now really, if Boris gets in that is, and it would be amusing to see him lose his seat really......"Bojo bashes Corbo !" Corbo gets his marxing orders !"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-50737467

Nearly forgot...got our dog a doggy warmer coat on Monday....a fetching shade of red not unlike Labour's colours in fact, and, made in China .......how's that for a display of all inclusive Socialism at work !

Finally, as many of the chaps will have missed this announcement, one wishes to inform you of the Guardians success .....

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...rnalism-awards

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Old 11th Dec 2019, 07:43
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Blimey K 'n c, "awards for journalists" must be akin to awards for the most prolific sewerage treatment plant.
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 08:10
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Not so much inclusive socialism, K n c, more species appropriation, surely?
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 08:23
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Got it ! that photo on the front of yesterday's Mirror was faked, staged or just good old photo-shopped then was it ?....it's taken some time to surpass Gordon Brown's "unfortunate utterance " but, hey, that's Boris for you.....never one to be knowingly outstaged.
Haven't the lefties got previous about people on floors? oh no, not us sir, it was photoshopped.

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Old 11th Dec 2019, 09:00
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I think that the electorate are going to do what they do at every other election, or at the most after two terms of whoever is in the hot seat at the time, and just vote for a change over to the opposition party and sod the consequences, so based on that theory my prediction for the election result is Labour will end up, probably with the SNP propping them up, just achieving Corbynís dream of getting into No. 10, although he will be in the same position as the Conservatives were after the 2017 election and needing the DUP, which means that Westminster will continue to be stuck in the same rut they have been in for the last 3 odd years. It is possible that the 'Tactical Voting' might also achieve that result as well.
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I think you're right, all through my adult life there have been examples of vox pops saying "I'll give the other lot a chance" pretty well irrespective of their policies, promises or whatever else they want to call them

The YouGov poll released last night showed a significant closing in the gap based on the MRP method, and it has to be remembered that this isn't a snap shot of Monday, it would have been the result of research over the previous few days, so the Johnson and Ashworth fauxpas won't have figured, nor the revelation on the true state of the "customs border" between GB and NI post Brexit (Curiously ORAC seems to have overlooked posting a link to that one!) and it makes the possibility of no overall control somewhat more likely. I still reckon the Conservatives will just about scrape back with some sort of single figure majority, but without the DUP to prop them up it's hard to understand how they'll "get Brexit done" or have us out of transition by 31.12.20. Anyone got a handy ditch prepared?
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 09:34
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There’s some delicate flowers among the Tories in my constituency. A friend of my wife’s has been involved in a leafleting campaign against the local Tory MP, basically encouraging tactical voting against him. The 2 leaflets going out have focussed solely on his voting record, highlighting items that might influence swing voters. Neither leaflet contains anything even remotely personal about him, and yet she has been contacted by a journo from the local paper asking her to comment about complaints the paper has received about ‘nasty leaflets’ being put through their door!

There will have been examples against politicians on all sides of stuff that actually was nasty during this campaign unfortunately, but this one made me laugh!

As far as I can tell the paper hasn’t run anything, so presumably came to the same conclusion.
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 09:48
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Originally Posted by Curious Pax View Post
There’s some delicate flowers among the Tories in my constituency. A friend of my wife’s has been involved in a leafleting campaign against the local Tory MP, basically encouraging tactical voting against him. The 2 leaflets going out have focussed solely on his voting record, highlighting items that might influence swing voters. Neither leaflet contains anything even remotely personal about him, and yet she has been contacted by a journo from the local paper asking her to comment about complaints the paper has received about ‘nasty leaflets’ being put through their door!

There will have been examples against politicians on all sides of stuff that actually was nasty during this campaign unfortunately, but this one made me laugh!

As far as I can tell the paper hasn’t run anything, so presumably came to the same conclusion.
given your constituency I don't think he's in any danger of not being re-elected ......mind you, there was one a bit further down the A556 who thought the same .....sadly, for him, the local electorate thought otherwise.
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 11:49
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PM Hides in a Fridge

This is the next PM?
The reaction from the flunky is priceless.
Johnson has actually achieved the impossible and made Morgan look good.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9241661.html
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 11:51
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Originally Posted by andrewn View Post
Of course you're right to some extent Torque, but Brexit was a massive vote of frustration and against the establishment.

I'm still not sure the establishment get this yet, hence I'd expect further uprising in the near future.

Draining the swamp takes time obviously.

The frustration behind the Brexit vote I get and share. Wrong target. The people driving Brexit are not the champions of the interests of Britain or most Brits. That should set off more alarm bells than it appears to.

A personal view simply stated: Brexit is a mistake. It will give more wind to exactly the forces that have impoverished many Britains and over-stressed their lives. The EU is not the main cause of this and leaving it will not herald change for the better in this and other respects.. It will be uglier, harder and poorer. We are not going back to a fondly imagined 50s or 60s. The future will be brutal and bleak for England and Wales if there is not more shared sense of purpose in facing the coming challenges together with neighbours.

As to disruption and draining the swamp, I think the evidence of the shockingly low quality of political representatives that have managed to gain power should be an early warning as to being careful what you wish for. They are not draining the swamp, they are effluent itself.
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 12:00
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Originally Posted by TURIN View Post
This is the next PM?
The reaction from the flunky is priceless.
Johnson has actually achieved the impossible and made Morgan look good.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9241661.html
Ha ha ha !
When you think millions believe this guy will help the UK 'regain' anything...
In the - not so likely - event he happens to win a majority, the guy is certain to baulk when it comes to take the plunge.
Not sure you're leaving any time soon...
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 12:22
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What will happen if there's a low turnout,but Boris or Jeremy manage to achieve a small majority?
Will the result be accepted or will the electorate be asked to vote again.......
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 12:42
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Gizza Job....hick.....
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 12:47
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And tragic as the story is, what is that if not another political point scoring tabloid front page trying to persuade the public on how to vote and a grieving father doing exactly what he is protesting about?.
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 12:49
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In the - not so likely - event he happens to win a majority,
What on earth are you on about? Heís odds on to win a majority.
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 12:57
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Hello Help the Aged, I wonder if you can help me, I need another 10% of the votes.
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 13:06
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Originally Posted by flocci_non_faccio View Post


What on earth are you on about? Heís odds on to win a majority.
Echo

Who?
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 13:08
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Originally Posted by flocci_non_faccio View Post


What on earth are you on about? Heís odds on to win a majority.
Flocci, what are those odds ?
Not that it matters much re Brexit, though...
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 13:23
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Originally Posted by Fly Aiprt View Post
Flocci, what are those odds ?
Not that it matters much re Brexit, though...
About 1/25 at the moment.
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 13:33
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Amused to note that Boris is using a Danish aircraft for his short hops around the UK. Presumably the paperwork to be able to use that aircraft was less onerous than it is likely to be once he reaches his land of milk and honey....
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