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Old 28th Nov 2019, 14:27
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Tomorrow's headlines ..

Excess.....Victory for Express Crusade ! Migrants flee Brit shores !

Mail.....Mail Campaign exclusive ! Millions more UK jobs now migrants sent packing !

Sun.....Migrunts get the boot !

And many self satisfied smirks of approval and clapping of hands by those contributors whose dreams are now being fulfilled........well they got the message eh chaps !..good old Blighty .....showing them we mean business when we said we would be "taking back control "..." what do you mean I'll have to wash my own car !..or pick my own crops ! "

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50586338
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 14:49
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post
Tomorrow's headlines ..

Excess.....Victory for Express Crusade ! Migrants flee Brit shores !

Mail.....Mail Campaign exclusive ! Millions more UK jobs now migrants sent packing !

Sun.....Migrunts get the boot !

And many self satisfied smirks of approval and clapping of hands by those contributors whose dreams are now being fulfilled........well they got the message eh chaps !..good old Blighty .....showing them we mean business when we said we would be "taking back control "..." what do you mean I'll have to wash my own car !..or pick my own crops ! "

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50586338
Yes, Taking Back Control" is working well.
EU citizens are deterred from coming, while we continue to import Vietnamese by the truckload.
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 14:57
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The figure will be even worse than that, to start planting your 500,000 trees a day, you need 500,000 saplings per day and they do not grow on trees, nor can you shake them out of the magic money tree... they need to be grown first and you probably will need greenhouses capable of bringing them on in such large numbers.... And then were are you going to plant them all, sneak them into peoples gardens at night? surely large scale forestation will require change of use etc if on farmland.
Apparently, it can be done:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/50591261
It seems volunteers in Uttar Pradesh planted 50 million in a single day in 2016!
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 15:00
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
Yes, Taking Back Control" is working well.
EU citizens are deterred from coming, while we continue to import Vietnamese by the truckload.
Aw !
Fact is the UK doesn't know how many Asian migrants land every year.
But is it relevant, as none of them are taking legitimate UK jobs, and according to some studies published here, they go back home after 6-8 years in the UK.
As many of them work in the restaurant business, one could contend they are improving the general welfare of the people in the UK, which otherwise would have to choose only between kidney pie or fish & chips...

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Old 28th Nov 2019, 15:06
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France could offer educated Remainers relaxed French citizenship conditions, as well as 4-5 year tax exemption.
That would help free some British jobs for the Brexiters and other good UK citizens...
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 15:10
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Theresa May pays tribute to notorious antisemite
Treeza today dedicated and probably said lots of kind words about a statue of Nancy Astor in Plymouth. (Bloody immigrant!)
To be fair to the late Nancy Astor, her hatred of Jews was balanced out by her hatred of Roman Catholics.
On the other hand, she seems to have been quite well disposed toward a political clique in Germany, at one point declaring that she thought the Nazis would solve the problems of communism and the Jews. She also reportedly told a Nazi official that she supported the German re-armament because Germany was surrounded by Catholics.
A thoroughly nice lady then. NOT!
So, when will Theresa May be hoiked out of her party for supporting antisemitism?
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 15:13
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IFS Manifesto Verdict

As they seem to see it neither the Tories or Labour have a credible spending plan.
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 15:14
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Fact is the UK doesn't know how many Asian migrants land every year.
I would go further than that FlyAiprt; the UK doesn't know with any sort of accuracy how many people arrive here as immigrants. Nor does the UK know, again with any sort of accuracy, how many people actually emigrate.
Despite the detailed numbers being published today by the Office for National Statistics.
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 15:43
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Originally Posted by KelvinD View Post
I would go further than that FlyAiprt; the UK doesn't know with any sort of accuracy how many people arrive here as immigrants. Nor does the UK know, again with any sort of accuracy, how many people actually emigrate.
Despite the detailed numbers being published today by the Office for National Statistics.
The UK hasn't got a clue, since we don't ask migrants to register when they arrive here, and worse, we don't do what we are legally entitled to do if they haven't found employment within 3 months - send them back. of course we can't because we don't know where they are. In all probability many that haven't surfaced working with reputable organisation, and therefore holding an NI number, are actually working gainfully, in the black economy, not paying taxes.

If we all had to have an ID card to access services it would be much easier to sort out who was cheating the system, but for some reason that just "isn't British" so we'll continue to muddle along as we are. This country can really be infuriating!
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 16:02
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
The UK hasn't got a clue, since we don't ask migrants to register when they arrive here, and worse, we don't do what we are legally entitled to do if they haven't found employment within 3 months - send them back. of course we can't because we don't know where they are. In all probability many that haven't surfaced working with reputable organisation, and therefore holding an NI number, are actually working gainfully, in the black economy, not paying taxes.

If we all had to have an ID card to access services it would be much easier to sort out who was cheating the system, but for some reason that just "isn't British" so we'll continue to muddle along as we are. This country can really be infuriating!
Focusing on keeping track of migrants (although the subject of the current discussion) belies the fact that “ducking and diving” aka the hidden economy is quite a significant part of Brit culture anyway. There is often little real choice, as people are forced to pretend they are self-employed. Although in reality they are legally not. And pay zero in contributions.

ID cards and registration - much needed in the UK. Life for the average beat copper would also be made much easier.
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 16:20
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Has anyone seen a Vietnamese car wash yet?
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 16:50
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Originally Posted by KelvinD View Post
Theresa May pays tribute to notorious antisemite
Treeza today dedicated and probably said lots of kind words about a statue of Nancy Astor in Plymouth. (Bloody immigrant!)
To be fair to the late Nancy Astor, her hatred of Jews was balanced out by her hatred of Roman Catholics.
On the other hand, she seems to have been quite well disposed toward a political clique in Germany, at one point declaring that she thought the Nazis would solve the problems of communism and the Jews. She also reportedly told a Nazi official that she supported the German re-armament because Germany was surrounded by Catholics.
A thoroughly nice lady then. NOT!
So, when will Theresa May be hoiked out of her party for supporting antisemitism?
Yep, she would have done well in the current Tory spectrum really.......and was very supportive of the troops in Italy.... who were kind enough to return the compliment.....



Meanwhile, here's Boris trying to find a gap in his diary......

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50592259

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Old 28th Nov 2019, 18:55
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Wow, he didn't say "Get Brexit Done" once. Seems he's now got a new catch phrase.
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Old 29th Nov 2019, 06:25
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And who watched the climate debate on C4 last night I wonder ?.......replacing Boris with a block of ice was a very potent message really. There again, it could have been that nice Mr Gove who seemingly pitched up.....never one to miss an opportunity as we know....only, sadly, to be reminded it was for leaders only.....which he isn't.

But, and this will send a few pulses on here throbbing, apparently should the Tory party get elected, there will be a "day of reckoning " for C4......now there's a testimony to the quality of C4, and the presenters, when a political party wants to negate a media source that they don't approve of.

As has been mentioned before, the mud and muck raking was always going to be prominent in this GE.........so who better to embody this approach than ?....the Tory party and their very own user guide for candidates ! .......

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...o-smear-rivals
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Old 29th Nov 2019, 06:41
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And who watched the climate debate on C4 last night I wonder ?.......replacing Boris with a block of ice was a very potent message really

Looking at the response in much of the UK print recently to any climate change debate or protest I suspect Mr Johnson's "no show" at a climate debate won't do him any harm at all with many voters in the UK..........

As for the not so subtle threats to a media organisation...sounds like something straight out the Trump playbook...again something that might well play well with his supporters..

So all in all I suspect the Tory campaign strategists will think that by keeping Mr Johnson away from public debate and also threatening elements of the media they had a good day at the office..and they don't need many more of those.

John Crace's thoughts on the matter

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Old 29th Nov 2019, 08:44
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post
And who watched the climate debate on C4 last night I wonder ?.......replacing Boris with a block of ice was a very potent message really. There again, it could have been that nice Mr Gove who seemingly pitched up.....never one to miss an opportunity as we know....only, sadly, to be reminded it was for leaders only.....which he isn't.

But, and this will send a few pulses on here throbbing, apparently should the Tory party get elected, there will be a "day of reckoning " for C4......now there's a testimony to the quality of C4, and the presenters, when a political party wants to negate a media source that they don't approve of.

As has been mentioned before, the mud and muck raking was always going to be prominent in this GE.........so who better to embody this approach than ?....the Tory party and their very own user guide for candidates ! .......

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...o-smear-rivals

I think 'Empty chairing' is as juvenile as 'No platforming'.
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Old 29th Nov 2019, 09:56
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One could add considering that they wouldn't let him in because he isn't the leader of the party, why was Sturgeon there, she isn't the leader of the party in Westminster? and it is a Westminster election, the people should be hearing from the person who is the leader of the SNP in that house. The Westminster election has nothing to do with her, she is not standing for it.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...der/ar-BBXuiSW
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Old 29th Nov 2019, 10:21
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One could add considering that they wouldn't let him in because he isn't the leader of the party, why was Sturgeon there, she isn't the leader of the party in Westminster? and it is a Westminster election, the people should be hearing from the person who is the leader of the SNP in that house. The Westminster election has nothing to do with her, she is not standing for it.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...der/ar-BBXuiSW
How to break this gently....first, unless the BBC have got it hopelessly wrong of course, Ms Sturgeon was, erm, entitled to be there being the leader of the SNP....

Second, it's not a Westminster election....other bits of our green, rain soaked isle are also involved.....this includes Scotland, until Boris decides to annexe the country that is.....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/50459942
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Old 29th Nov 2019, 10:28
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It is an election for parliament, the leader of the SNP in Parliament is not Sturgeon, if you are going to have a show where the leaders of the parties involved and standing in the election are speaking, common sense dictates you need to hear from those standing for election, or their leader who is standing, that is the only way that the Scottish electorate can judge if he is s a sound and fit person for that role, we have heard nothing from him. .
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Old 29th Nov 2019, 10:34
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Ian Blackford is the SNP leader in Westminster so he should of been there:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland...itics-40266166
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