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Old 11th Nov 2019, 09:15
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Really the outcome of the Brexit referendum was a result of the last half a century of investment and prosperity being concentrated in the Southeast of England, whilst the former industrial heartlands, where the real work used to be done have been chucked crumbs of regional aid and headline grabbing, but otherwise useless, regeneration policies. The "workers" being sacrificed to the altar of finance and commerce.

However large scale the popular unrest might be were Brexit to be cancelled, either by referendum ,or worse by edict from an incoming LibDem government (and I say that as one who may well vote LibDem in December) they may well pale into insignificance were these downtrodden areas not to benefit substantially from Brexit, and in fairly short order.
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Old 11th Nov 2019, 11:07
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
they may well pale into insignificance were these downtrodden areas not to benefit substantially from Brexit, and in fairly short order.
Everybody will benefit from the sole positive outcome of Brexit : the notion that they finally 'got it done', et they'll have 'taken back control'.
No other benefit in sight.
As for the 'money for the NHS' , £440m/week is already going down the drain with the cost of 'preparing for Brexit'.

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Old 11th Nov 2019, 11:26
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If you still think Jeremy Corbyn is a Ďdangerí to Britain, a Ďtraitorí, or just a total clown, it could be too late for you Ė youíve been brainwashed by a handful of foreign billionaires.

Thatís what I wrote more than two years ago in an article about the continual smearing of Jeremy Corbyn in the press. It turns out things havenít got better; itís worse than we imagined.

At the time, the article pointed out that whilst newspapers play a crucial role in British democracy, it is troubling that the majority (around 80 per cent) of the UK press is owned by a handful of (predominantly foreign) right-wing billionaires.


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Old 11th Nov 2019, 11:28
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I won't have this defeatist talk of no benefits from Brexit. We still gave blue passports to look forward to.
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Old 11th Nov 2019, 11:48
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It beggars belief that people who suffer so much economical in relatively deprived area such as Stoke should pay any heed to exhortations made by the likes of Aaron Banks or Nigel Farage who would likely treat them with contempt were they to pass them in the streets - outside of an election campaign of course.

That they believe that leaving the EU will improve their lot one iota is also more hope than expectation surely.
I take it you would shake up their party, with milk?
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Old 11th Nov 2019, 12:35
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The Brexit party will not contest any seats where the Conservatives may have a majority, they are going after Labour instead.


https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...son-jo-swinson
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Old 11th Nov 2019, 12:44
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https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-50374630


It said a production error led to BBC Breakfast showing images purporting to be the prime minister attending a Remembrance Day service on Sunday, when in fact the clip was from 2016.

"This was a production mistake and we apologise for the error," the corporation said in a statement.

Some members of the public questioned the BBC's impartiality on social media.......
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Old 11th Nov 2019, 13:00
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The Brexit party will not contest any seats where the Conservatives may have a majority, they are going after Labour instead.
Not what he said - they will not contest any of the 317 seats already held by the Conservatives - which doesn’t help.

The Conservatives will lose many remain majority seats in the south and need to win many Labour held leave marginals in the north just to hold onto their current number of seats , let alone win a majority. Farage wants them to stand down so the BXP can win them and form the balance of power - something the Conservatives will never do, which means the Leave vote will split. The result won’t be a a Brexit win, but a Labour hold.
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Old 11th Nov 2019, 16:43
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Not what he said - they will not contest any of the 317 seats already held by the Conservatives - which doesnít help.

The Conservatives will lose many remain majority seats in the south and need to win many Labour held leave marginals in the north just to hold onto their current number of seats , let alone win a majority. Farage wants them to stand down so the BXP can win them and form the balance of power - something the Conservatives will never do, which means the Leave vote will split. The result wonít be a a Brexit win, but a Labour hold.
I really can't see the Brexit Party winning any, maybe 1 or 2 that will be it.
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Old 11th Nov 2019, 16:47
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Originally Posted by Echo Romeo View Post
I really can't see the Brexit Party winning any, maybe 1 or 2 that will be it.
I think you're right, but they may well take a fair few Conservative Brexiteer votes, so, in effect, by standing they could enable another party to win the seat.

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Old 11th Nov 2019, 18:18
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A great move by Nige, a magnificent own goal hit into the top corner on the volley from thirty yards. Tory target seats will have the Leave vote split asunder.
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Old 11th Nov 2019, 20:28
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I see three parties have agreed on tactical voting. Is this democracy?
Wot - no condemnation of Nigeís dodgy leave alliance?
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Old 12th Nov 2019, 02:06
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A great move by Nige, a magnificent own goal hit into the top corner on the volley from thirty yards. Tory target seats will have the Leave vote split asunder.
I am not at all sure that the Tories will be rent asunder as suggested. There was a time when this might have been a serious possibility but Conservatives and others increasingly are coming to understand that the character of this election is moving from being specifically Brexit to one of avoiding the horrors of Comrade Corbyn and his Politburo - a vastly bigger menace than Brussels.
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Old 12th Nov 2019, 06:50
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Great news !....Sun and Mail readers united !....plus, not only can the Mail claim credit for ridding the whole world of plastic bags but now, thanks to a single headline, one day later can now claim credit for a retreat that makes the Battle of New Orleans look like a great planned tactical and strategic exit .....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-50383479
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Old 12th Nov 2019, 07:11
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Not a spoof or fake news. Not sure if it is a train wreck for Thornberry - or a longer term career move.....

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Old 12th Nov 2019, 07:26
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Thornberry also at risk of losing her seat to the LibDems......

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/103265...-labour-polls/
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Old 12th Nov 2019, 08:20
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Originally Posted by Gipsy Queen View Post
a vastly bigger menace than Brussels.
Menaces ?
Aren't we reenacting The Invaders, Mr Vincent^^?

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Old 12th Nov 2019, 09:43
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Originally Posted by Gipsy Queen View Post
I am not at all sure that the Tories will be rent asunder as suggested. There was a time when this might have been a serious possibility but Conservatives and others increasingly are coming to understand that the character of this election is moving from being specifically Brexit to one of avoiding the horrors of Comrade Corbyn and his Politburo - a vastly bigger menace than Brussels.
Treeza had similar thoughts.......alas.

Not forgetting the electorate may also have more than a passing interest in local issue, policies which have been to their detriment along with voter apathy given the " Mousetrap " rivalling production at the Westminster Theatre of Performing Troubadours and Clockwork clowns over the last few years.

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Old 12th Nov 2019, 09:50
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The Lib Demís announced £5billion for flood defences yesterday. Is that just because itís raining ☔️? Do they have a store of politically opportunistic announcements ready for other meteorological events?
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Old 12th Nov 2019, 10:11
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The Lib Dem’s announced £5billion for flood defences yesterday. Is that just because it’s raining ☔️? Do they have a store of politically opportunistic announcements ready for other meteorological events?
Well now that you mention flooding, here's one (or two ) we had earlier.......Dave also mentioned something about money as well.......mind you, such events do provide Boris with a great opportunity to combine bulldozers and ditches into one fulfilled promise ...

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/our-...pens-1-7645973

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26131515
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