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Old 15th Jun 2019, 17:12
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post
" I understand why you wouldn’t want to highlight the long list of Labour MPs with way higher expenditure."

Sadly, you seem to not be able to grasp this is not about overall expenditure.

It's about one particular expense......£8750 spent on plastering her exquisite features across her website.....nothing like modest self-appreciation really.

Thus, if you can find a Labour MP who has also spent tax payers money, which may be key to this, on exactly the same vanity expense, you are cordially invited to show us whom, and when.........
Is this good use of public funds?

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Old 15th Jun 2019, 17:21
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Originally Posted by yellowtriumph View Post


Is this good use of public funds?

https://www.hackneycitizen.co.uk/201...arliament-row/

Yes I do. However, you conveniently missed .......the bit about the painting being commissioned by Parliament ......which is in stark contrast to Esther getting hers done at her own whim. After all, who would be paying and by now you should have worked out it wasn't going to be herself .
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Old 15th Jun 2019, 18:17
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So you’re ok with £11750 of public money for a lovely portrait of Ms Abbot but scandalised by this lesser sum? And you expect us to see your “outrage” as other than nakedly partisan? But anything to distract from the vindictive Marxist cult Labour has become.

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Old 15th Jun 2019, 19:09
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Shotone: You seem to avoid reading responses from others before coming up with your own response. As the link shows, Abbott's portrait had nothing to do with her; it, along with many others, are commissioned by Parliament. She had nothing to do with it (other than presumably sitting!). Personally, I think it is an abomination!
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Old 15th Jun 2019, 21:28
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You seem to have avoided reading mine -I never said she did. Meanwhile Corbyn is defending Iran from being blamed for blowing up tankers. As he did for Putin after the Salisbury nerve-gas attack. And sits down with his friends from Hamas, Hezbollah and the IRA (common thread there?)
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Old 16th Jun 2019, 08:37
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Meanwhile Corbyn is defending Iran from being blamed for blowing up tankers.
And yet against what you’d normally expect, with only a few exceptions the relevant JB thread agrees with him on this occasion! As it appears do most countries (granted many you can infer from their silence), except the 2 with the most vested interests (Israel and Saudi) and the one whose desperation for a trade deal borders on the embarrassing.
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Old 16th Jun 2019, 10:21
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Originally Posted by KelvinD View Post
Shotone: You seem to avoid reading responses from others before coming up with your own response. As the link shows, Abbott's portrait had nothing to do with her; it, along with many others, are commissioned by Parliament. She had nothing to do with it (other than presumably sitting!). Personally, I think it is an abomination!
The point is funding. Apparently the legitimate and fully approved spending of public funds for pictures of Ester McVey is bad, whereas the legitimate and fully approved spending of public funds on a picture of Diane Abbott is good. According to some.
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Old 16th Jun 2019, 12:38
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Sunday Bloody Sunday, another day of a group of nobodies pressing their claims to follow in the footsteps of Galdstone Lloyd George Asquith and more recently Churchill Attlee Wilson and Thatcher.

No mention of the country just for the good of the Conservative party who started the whole bloody shambles quite needlessly in the first place.
Oblivious to the irony that they have had no majority in Parliament for years, to that fact that in the Euro and other elections more people voted tops crap article 50 not just stay in than voted for the Brexit party. No more Unionist party by their arrogant treatment of Ireland and Ulster, No More wales now the disasters of British Steel and ford have hit home -what will they do if AB moves. No more Scotland if Boris becomes PM . The potential election of man even his friends say could never be PM -read uber Tory Max Hastings views on Boris .
But never mind whoever gets chosen-not elected of course, cant have the public changing their mind like we can- can jump o Warmongering Trump coat tails and get us dragged into Gulf War 3 when even millions and tens if not hundreds of millions of Americans don't believe their own president about events in the Gulf.

We could of course solve all this by saying that if UK's economic position has not improved by 2024, being generous, all leading Brexiters will go to prison for treason for ten years and see how many demand leaving in October then.
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Old 16th Jun 2019, 13:21
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Hi. Relax, stop the bile production guys!!! Just patiently wait for July the 20th... the Street is about to make itsel "heard"... If the last "People's Vote" March was fun but "ignored", wait for that Infacts "March for Change" one!!!. Some records are going to be broken!!!! Five cool but enthusiastic remainers in my car followed by my van with five well oiled bikes , so that we can park well outside London, that should make a fun day out... Looking forward to it.There no point talking anymore, lets act, peacefuly, and see what happens.......
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Old 16th Jun 2019, 13:51
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Originally Posted by alicopter View Post
There no point talking anymore, lets act, peacefuly, and see what happens.......
Maybe we could have a vote....er...another vote, I didn’t like the last one
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Old 16th Jun 2019, 14:43
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Originally Posted by alicopter View Post
Five cool but enthusiastic remainers in my car followed by my van with five well oiled bikes ,
But you're not even British.........
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Old 16th Jun 2019, 15:20
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The consensus (Hunt in TV this morning, Daniel Hannan in the Sunday Telegraph, ComRes and Sunday Times polls etc) is that the only real option for Boris, if and when he is elected, is a snap election in Sept/Oct.

The polls show that Boris’s intent to offer a deal and, if not accepted, leave on 31st Oct has majority support and, in an election, should return a Conservative majority. Delaying any further with another extension ending up with the Brexit party destroying the Conservative base.
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Old 16th Jun 2019, 16:06
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PaxBritannia, can you please edit your last post so that it makes sense?

We can see your previous personal shining through.
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Old 16th Jun 2019, 20:40
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Originally Posted by pax britanica View Post
Can anyone trust any politician at present is the question to be asked.

Make Britain great again-I think this Government has contributed more to our decline than any in history. And who the hell wants a great Britain anyway -last time we were 'great' we had child labour, premature deaths mass poverty no NHS and before that enclosires and the press gang. We should aspire to a Good Brtain with a proper health service, decent education, proper policing, sound infrastructure, fair pensions and parental leave a reasonable balance between the haves and have nots and not be dragged back tot he 19th century and beyond .
The answer to the first question is self-evident. We are in this current mess precisely because of the chicanery and duplicity of politicians, notably that of the vile Maybot (still trying to polish the turd which is her legacy) but she is by no means alone in this catalogue of treachery which includes almost every member of that contemptible assembly of third-raters masquerading as representatives of "the people". Trust long since has evaporated and I am far from sanguine about its restoration.

The validity of the next sentence surely must be incontrovertible; but such a pity that its impact was negated by the subsequent Marxist cant.
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Old 16th Jun 2019, 22:46
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I am actually feeling a little guilty that I am deriving so much enjoyment from this whole Brexit mess. When Cameron got a working majority in 2015 my feeling was ." That's it for five years. Tories in control and both opposition parties sidelined, one by a bad choice of leader, the other by past misdemeanours." How wrong can you be? The downside of course is all the disruption that has ensued and quite possibly for those who are at no fault. It's going to be fascinating to see where this goes, it's genuinely uncharted territory with lots of options such as the potential breakup of the UK and the consigning to history of one or more of the established political parties.
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Old 17th Jun 2019, 05:03
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If Labour comes out for Remain I would think an Oct/Nov election is almost a certainty. Labour, LibDem and Green will be chasing the same vote whilst the Conservatives, If Boris wins, will seeking to get all the leave vote whilst the Brexit party is still unorganised. The polls show that the Brexit vote in the EU Election was mainly a protest vote and he’ll succeed in doing so.

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk...my-corbyn-make

Tom Watson piles pressure on Jeremy Corbyn to make Labour a 'Remain party'

Labour's deputy leader risked triggering another row over Brexit as he heaped pressure on Mr Corbyn to push for a second Brexit referendum where the party would campaign “loud and proud” in favour of staying in the EU.

Speaking ahead of a crunch gathering of Labour’s Shadow Cabinet, Mr Watson will hit out at the party's leadership for “shying away” from making a positive case for the UK’s continued membership of the bloc. He is expected to say: “Our members are Remain. Our values are Remain. Our hearts are Remain. We must bring the public back into this decision and we must argue strongly to remain in Europe. “Our future doesn’t need to be Brexit. We can change our future. But only if Labour makes the case for it – and we must.”........




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Old 17th Jun 2019, 05:10
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That would be an interesting stance. 56% of Labour seats voted leave during the referendum. If Labour campaign as a remain party then surely many of their voters might defect. In that case Conservative would probably be the obvious choice for them.

I think its fair to say that, with recent history in mind, none of us have the first clue what is likely to happen if a general election were to be called. I think Labour are just as terrified as the Tories.

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Old 17th Jun 2019, 06:29
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Another JB favourite then......the bolshy unions and the railways. It seems those wishing to attend Royal Arsecort may have to make alternative arrangements this year.....which isn't going to go down well with the patrons intent on wasting their money and the associated, to their way of thinking, social kudos.

This does have a connection with UK politics because the actions of South Western are those of a privatised TOC intent on profits......and sod the workforce ....remember who the Transport Sec is ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-48656491

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Old 17th Jun 2019, 06:36
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BV,

As with the Conservatives, it’s not the voters but the membership which is driving Labour to this position. If you follow the link in the above article to the Observer on Sunday, you find the following. The Labour party conference taking place in September, and the Conservative party conference at the beginning of October.

Growing pressure is also coming from pro-EU Labour activists who are circulating anti-Brexit motions at constituency Labour parties (CLPs) for submission to the autumn annual conference in Brighton. By last night they said that more than 130 CLPs across the country had agreed to debate a motion which would commit Labour to “campaign energetically for a public vote and to remain”, and to “support revoking article 50 if necessary to prevent no deal.”

A similar motion will also be debated soon in Corbyn’s own Islington North CLP. It will note that the “vast majority of Labour members and voters oppose Brexit” and that conference “believes that Labour party policy must reflect this view and that we cannot go into any more elections without a clear policy for the UK to remain in the European Union.....
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Old 17th Jun 2019, 07:44
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A new Labour campaign for a Remain vote would be sown in different ground from the 2016 referendum. It may also have better seed than Project Fear. It might germinate where the Tories failed.

Did Labour supporters vote Leave because Tories said Remain?
Would Labour supporters vote Remain because Tories said Leave?
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