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Old 11th Jun 2019, 08:27
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Noel: Totally agree with your comparisons between MRLP and others. I put "odd ball" in inverted commas to imply it is a label generally applied to them and others.
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Old 11th Jun 2019, 10:11
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MRLP are an assembly of faux eccentrics. A certain type gets a kick out of that. Genuine eccentrics don't have to try.
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Old 11th Jun 2019, 10:52
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I know, it's that dastardly EU offering their unwarranted opinions again ! But of course, Boris can be relied on, if he gets the job, to use his charm and tact to influence them as we leave on the 31st Oct ( year to be confirmed )

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...al-say-sources

But, some good news !

The equally charm(less) Anne has now resurrected her stage career.....we can only await her gushing Oscar acceptance speech in due course !

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ay-remarks-row

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Old 11th Jun 2019, 11:28
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What percentage of your posts would you say contain a link to an article in the Guardian?

Far be it for me to suggest that that your viewpoints may be a little skewed. But I think they might be.

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Old 11th Jun 2019, 11:45
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It looks very much as if he is on their payroll.
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Old 11th Jun 2019, 16:24
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/brexit...logy-brussels/

Brussels draw plan for Irish border technology despite rubbishing Brexiteer’s same idea

Eurocrats will deploy “IT systems” to keep trade flowing between Ireland and the EU via Britain if there’s a No Deal Brexit. Yet their negotiators have repeatedly insisted tech was unable to solve the Irish backstop problem, one of the main sticking points in Theresa May’s doomed deal.

In a dossier to be presented to EU leaders next week, officials say a fix “can be implemented swiftly” and that they are in “regular contact” with authorities in Ireland, France and the Netherlands over the contingency plans.

The move will be leapt on by Brexiteer candidates to become the next PM, who have argued the Irish border can be sorted with tech solutions.

The paper says EU countries should use the Brexit extension to review progress on new Border Inspection Posts and “ensure that they are fully functional from the outset” of No Deal. It then adds: “Furthermore, the Commission maintains regular contacts with the most concerned Member States so that a land-bridge route between Ireland and the rest of the EU via the UK can be implemented swiftly in the event of No Deal, including support from the necessary IT systems.”

In 2017 around 85 percent of Ireland’s freight trade with the EU – some 475,000 containers – travelled through the UK according to official figures."..........




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Old 11th Jun 2019, 16:43
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So the EU are saying that technology can be used successfully to secure it's border between Ireland and mainland EU via some sort of invisible tunnel (if you like) across the UK. But also saying technology cannot be used successfully between Ireland and NI? Am I reading this right?
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Old 11th Jun 2019, 19:03
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Please forgive me Father for I have been tempted into quickly scanning the article referred to. As suspected, the article was somewhat less 'impactful' than suggested and featured this sequence which might constitute a caveat?
" EU officials stress that current tech still cannot eliminate all the checks needed to avoid a “hard border” as Britain has pledged.

They also point out there is a difference between managing a sea border and a land one."
Ah well, 'tis the Sun, one mustn't expect quality.
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Old 11th Jun 2019, 19:55
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Sooner or later a technical border solution must be found, because one will be needed between Scotland and England.
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Old 11th Jun 2019, 20:36
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Sooner or later a technical border solution must be found, because one will be needed between Scotland and England.
Or that Europhile 'Singapore' that is London and the southeast ...
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Old 11th Jun 2019, 20:39
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Sooner or later a technical border solution must be found, because one will be needed between Scotland and England.
I have seen a post on another forum, by an Englishman with somewhat 'robust' opinions, that Hadrian's Wall be re-instated with the addition of machine-gun towers and no gates in order to keep we nasty Jocks out of England's green and pleasant lands.
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Old 11th Jun 2019, 20:40
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They also point out there is a difference between managing a sea border and a land one."
The paper is the EU response to a no-deal exit. The land border doesn’t magically go away.....
And goods can go south and into their magic corridor or equally through their magic corridor then swing north.
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Old 11th Jun 2019, 21:31
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I have seen a post on another forum, by an Englishman with somewhat 'robust' opinions, that Hadrian's Wall be re-instated with the addition of machine-gun towers and no gates in order to keep we nasty Jocks out of England's green and pleasant lands.
Hadrian's Wall is not the Scottish border.
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Old 11th Jun 2019, 21:34
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Or that Europhile 'Singapore' that is London and the southeast ...
How would a Europhile think of London as a Singapore??
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Old 11th Jun 2019, 21:45
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Granted the caveat that this is a newspaper story but . . . as I read it:

Teresa May suggested a deal with the EU with a chunky payment and a trade deal but the EU turned it down because they would have an unattended land border in NI and the Irish insisted they would never allow a proper border. T May offered a technical border and the EU said that wasn't good enough and if she could not come up with better then they insisted on the back stop which tied GB into the EU on a temporary basis but with no end date.

T May is thrown out for her failure and NOW the EU suggests they might accept some sort of technical answer? Is that because the most likely candidates will now leave anyway, no payment, and say "Stuff you, If we have left what can you do?"

And why did TM not use this approach to start with?

Or have I got it entirely wrong. ( I am a long way away and we don't get all the shennanigans reported!)
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Old 11th Jun 2019, 21:51
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( I am a long way away and we don't get all the shennanigans reported!)
Lucky you!
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Old 12th Jun 2019, 05:52
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Andrea needs to engage some new slogan writers ( 4.44mins ) .....

Divisive and Uncompassionate would be far more apt..........

https://www.channel4.com/news/tory-l...-able-to-do-so
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Old 12th Jun 2019, 07:32
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
Hadrian's Wall is not the Scottish border.
No man's land, free fire zone?👹
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Old 12th Jun 2019, 07:48
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How would a Europhile think of London as a Singapore??
How would anybody?

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Old 12th Jun 2019, 08:09
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And why did TM not use this approach to start with?
Because digging her heels in and sticking to red lines was not what she did. And the EU negotiators knew it..........
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