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Old 3rd Jun 2019, 07:39
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The extract was the only piece of new information. The rest goes over what we have already discussed many times here,
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Old 3rd Jun 2019, 09:26
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I don't think that Javid should hold his breath on becoming PM. I met an old business aquaintence thus morning who is a long standing party member. I asked his opinion on who they might choose. His answer " Not the bloody P*** that's for certain."
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Old 3rd Jun 2019, 09:59
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Er, so some of your acquaintances are racist...and this bears on the political process how, exactly?

By way of balance, heís possibly my own top pick. Admittedly from a less than stellar line-up...yet even the weakest is head and shoulders above Corbyn!
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Old 3rd Jun 2019, 10:17
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It bears on the political process greatly because Albert is white, male and 70. As such he shares many attributes with the Tory membership and I can assure you that unless his opponent is the excellent Sam Gyimah he won't win.
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Old 3rd Jun 2019, 10:24
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PDR - An Announcement

Over the last few days I have spent much time in deep reflection, and have sought the views of friends and colleagues. I have concluded that, despite what would seem to be obvious benefits for the nation and bring clearly the most suitable option on offer, I have decided that this is not the time for excellence.

While appreciating that this will be deeply disappointing to do many I am therefore compelled to clarify my position and intentions by stating unequivocally that unlike everyone else in the UK I will not be putting my name forward as a candidate in the Conservative leadership election.

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Old 3rd Jun 2019, 10:45
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I canít see Javid making the last two, he loses out to Hunt and Gove amongst the remain supporters and Boris and Raab amongst the leavers.

If the last two are Boris vs Raab I shall vote for Boris. If Raab or Boris vs Gove then I shall vote for Gove.

Other options I shall brood over. But I do have a vote.
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Old 3rd Jun 2019, 11:06
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PDR1: Sorry to hear you won't be standing!
Orac: Good choice there, Gove. He could be relied upon to eventually stab himself in the back. Doing what apparently comes naturally to him!
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Old 3rd Jun 2019, 12:04
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Originally Posted by PDR1 View Post
Over the last few days I have spent much time in deep reflection, and have sought the views of friends and colleagues. I have concluded that, despite what would seem to be obvious benefits for the nation and bring clearly the most suitable option on offer, I have decided that this is not the time for excellence.

While appreciating that this will be deeply disappointing to do many I am therefore compelled to clarify my position and intentions by stating unequivocally that unlike everyone else in the UK I will not be putting my name forward as a candidate in the Conservative leadership election.

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First rule of politics, never believe anything until it is officially denied. Jim Hacker.
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Old 3rd Jun 2019, 18:31
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First rule of politics, never believe anything until it is officially denied. Jim Hacker.
That sounds like a great defense for Boris. No one in their right mind would have believed the signage on his red bus.

Here is the link to District judge Coleman`s ruling on the private prosecution by the anti Brexit campaigners:

Marcus Ball v Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson.
https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/...-FV-290519.pdf

Nice name, Boris de Pfeffel, wonder where he acquired it from.
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Old 3rd Jun 2019, 21:10
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Two interesting articles. The first is theoretically interesting, but at the end of the day the EU isnít based on laws or wording - from almost their first judgement in the late 1950s the EU court made a ruling that overruled the wording if the treaty of Rome based on what they claimed was the spirit of the treaty.....

https://lawyersforbritain.org/articl...-actually-says

https://order-order.com/2019/06/03/e...ement-changed/
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Old 3rd Jun 2019, 21:27
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I agree with this, I was in Tesco's and Asda and saw the food bin collection points today and thought how naive he is

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...cid=spartandhp
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Old 3rd Jun 2019, 21:35
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Hmmmmm

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...cid=spartandhp
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Old 4th Jun 2019, 01:19
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Never in my almost 80 years on this planet have I known a political situation as we have now. Politicians are polarised and this destructive polarisation has infected the nation as a whole. In my view, without exception, all those vying for leadership, regardless of their affiliations, fundamentally are unfit for the office; indeed I regard nearly all of them unfit for any national responsibility.

I seriously think the only truly effective catharsis will be provided by Corbyn and his worthless cronies who will reduce the country to such destitution that eventually, from the ensuing conflagration, a phoenix in the form of a quasi-dictator will arise (perhaps with military assistance) to set the country once again on a course largely self-determined over the last 400 years and before it was interrupted by the present HoC/HoL zoo and the loarthsome Mrs May who is making as much hay as she can while her sun still shines, although I doubt if The Donald will bother to give her much attention - why on earth would he?

However, I have to admit to my shame in my country arising from the disgraceful behaviour of Corbyn refusing to participate in a national event as he is required and at the same time parading his infantile views in a provocative rally conceived to bring maximum national embarrassment and discourtesy to our visitor as well as his knitted sandal yobs contriving to do the same things. Trump may be a divisive character and some of his views may not sit well with many in this country, but he is not here as Donald Trump; he is here as the President of the USA and the guest of HM The Queen. In the forces one does not salute the man, one salutes the rank and the same applies here. A pity these silly malcontents cannot see beyond their own myopic Marxism.
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Old 4th Jun 2019, 05:53
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It seems that 'Manners Mayketh Man' no longer applies. How standards have fallen!!
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Old 4th Jun 2019, 07:05
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However, I have to admit to my shame in my country arising from the disgraceful behaviour of Corbyn refusing to participate in a national event as he is required and at the same time parading his infantile views in a provocative rally conceived to bring maximum national embarrassment and discourtesy to our visitor as well as his knitted sandal yobs contriving to do the same things. Trump may be a divisive character and some of his views may not sit well with many in this country, but he is not here as Donald Trump; he is here as the President of the USA and the guest of HM The Queen. In the forces one does not salute the man, one salutes the rank and the same applies here. A pity these silly malcontents cannot see beyond their own myopic Marxism.
I'm afraid I only partially buy this "he's not here as Donald trump, but representing the office of President of the USA". For most presidents that statement is perfectly true, for Donald Trump it's not, he's here to promote "brand Trump" and improve has chances of retaining office in the 2020 election. He is a self promoter, a narcissist and probably the closest USA has ever got to an elected dictator. Were the US constitution not so robust he would, right now, be following the path of his mates Ergogan and Putin, and many African "democratically elected" leaders.

All that said, Corbyn was wrong not to attend the Buck House banquet last night, he should have been there and confronted Trump and put his issues directly to him; he could have been sure that Trump would have fired back, but to take part in a demo, largely orchestrated by the usual suspects carrying "Socialist Worker" placards achieves nothing, and does little to enhance his stock among the (large portion) of the electorate who will have no truck with him, and whom he needs to get a working majority at the next election.
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Old 4th Jun 2019, 07:08
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Originally Posted by Gipsy Queen View Post
but he is not here as Donald Trump; he is here as the President of the USA and the guest of HM The Queen.
Yes it does get a bit tedious listening to various Sky News / BBC reporters referring to him as Mr Trump and not President Trump.
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Old 4th Jun 2019, 07:11
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Yes it does get a bit tedious listening to various Sky News / BBC reporters referring to him as Mr Trump and not President Trump.
As it does hearing Boris Johnson being referred to as "Boris" You never hear Jeremy Hunt referred to to "Jeremy"
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Old 4th Jun 2019, 07:27
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As it does hearing Boris Johnson being referred to as "Boris" You never hear Jeremy Hunt referred to to "Jeremy"
Well there is no fear that anyone would mistake the former with Karloff but with the latter there are so many Jeremy's that things could get confusing.

There was one Maggie but Tony and John were too common as was one who became CallmeDave.
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Old 4th Jun 2019, 07:35
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As it does hearing Boris Johnson being referred to as "Boris" You never hear Jeremy Hunt referred to to "Jeremy"
Not so. Boris, being Boris, has always encouraged the use of his first name as it compliments the image and the promotion of the brand.......this being himself as we know.

As for the demonstrator demographic, sadly another recourse to a standard JB refrain re the Socialist Workers.......the demographic is far more expansive than this one group.

Anyway, here's Boris starting his charm offensive ....well ok, the addition of the word charm may not be entirely applicable or accurate, but, we now have a date it seems !....presumably the EU have already given their blessing to this ?..if not, no problem as Boris is adept at being economical with the facts, indeed he's included this ability as a feature of his campaign, something about crime in London for anybody who cares to read the article.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...campaign-video

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Old 4th Jun 2019, 09:13
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I get totally p*****d off with this anti Trump tosh!

It is typical leftie stuff. Any Republican is going to receive the same treatment. Who remembers the rubbish talked about Reagan? He received a typical left wing welcome here.

George Bush was rubbished relentlessly by the same suspects. He was a dumb as chickensh*t according to them despite being a qualified pilot!

Whilst lying, cheating young intern molesting Democratic President Clinton is treated like a god.

John F Kennedy who was shagging anything that moved and sleeping with a Gangsters Moll and who’s father was a Nazi loving bootlegger is elevated to Sainthood.

makes me puke!
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