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Old 24th May 2019, 16:02
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And Change UK can decide who their’s is.......
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Old 24th May 2019, 16:09
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Does this mean the SNP or the greens are the most stable/united parties in the UK just now??
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Old 24th May 2019, 16:12
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Or possibly the Brexit party....
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Old 24th May 2019, 16:35
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Originally Posted by KelvinD View Post
What galls me about this whole situation is this; My country needs to have a government to take care of business, do things in our interests etc. Just because the Tory party is full of PM wannabes who want the top job, along with huge perks, good salary & pension etc (Oh, and perhaps a mention in Wikipedia to show their grand children), the nation can now effectively look forward to some months of having no government....
Will anyone notice any difference?
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Old 24th May 2019, 16:58
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Here is what Brandon Lewis has circulated to members of the Conservative Party:

This morning the Prime Minister announced her intention to resign as Leader of the Conservative & Unionist Party on Friday 7 June. We are saddened by her decision but understand it, and thank her for her years of service to our Party and our nation, not just as Prime Minister but over many decades before that. As an activist, a councillor, a devoted constituency MP, a loyal member of the Shadow Cabinet in our long years of opposition, our first female Party Chairman, as a bold and reforming Home Secretary, and throughout her time as our nation’s second female Prime Minister, she has shown great dedication, courage and tenacity. She embodies the finest qualities of public service and, with this decision, has once again demonstrated her strong sense of duty and devotion to the national interest.

Entirely predictable of course, that we should now drown in the flood of crocodile tears accompanying (with echoes of Hugh Gaitskell) the announced departure of the Prime Minister. But one has to wonder why Lewis's paragon of virtuous deportment has so cruelly been used by the unanimity of her cabinet colleagues, fellow MPs, the Conservative party and the country as a whole. Have we all been so blind as to have failed to recognise the sterling qualities enumerated in this fulsome eulogy? How did we mistake her stoic perseverance and inspired tenacity, her resolute determination to see things through as blind, pig-headed obstinacy? Why did we suppose her repeated (and the last, aborted) attempts to secure the only acceptable (to her) Brexit outcome were a practical demonstration of Einstein's definition of stupidity? And why do we so demean ourselves to imagine that her departure date has been chosen to permit her a final demonstration of her unbridled personal ambition, basking in the kudos reflected by the US President?

I fear[/SPOILER] hope we shall not see her like again. But I really doubt that, judging the selection of wannabes snapping at her heels, that we are likely to be served any better in the immediate future.

Stand by for a wholesale revision of history.

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Old 24th May 2019, 17:10
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(...) she has shown great dedication, courage and tenacity. She embodies the finest qualities of public service and, with this decision, has once again demonstrated her strong sense of duty and devotion to the national interest. (...)

If this is not a definitive definition of Hubris: I really don't know what is !

I salute the ERG for achieving more damage to the Conservatives than the flaccid left has achieved in the past 20 Years; echoing my opinions expressed in the comments bit: in Owen Jones' article in the Gruniad. (Edit: No connection with the Guardian - Just a reader)

I know that many people who read/contribute to PPRuNe work in the travel industry and are directly affected by the consequences of the actions of the "Political Elite" in the UK and elsewhere. To allow the governance of a supposedly 1st world nation, to reach this state of decay means that those of you who can leave the UK; should seriously consider the option.

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Old 24th May 2019, 17:19
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Originally Posted by WilliumMate View Post
I voted about 1700 and for the first time I had to queue up. A quick glance at the poll clerk's sheet saw more names underlined than was the case when voting at a similar time in the recent local elections but still under 50% of the names.
Cambridge was 48%, more than a local but less than a general.

So who were these extra people who came out to vote?

I can guess, but I'll find out for sure on Sunday afternoon.
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Old 24th May 2019, 17:23
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Originally Posted by Effluent Man View Post
The collapse of the two main parties into the mid twenties could serve to breathe new life into the LD's with Remainers flocking to them.
I spent most of yesterday telling.

Apart from a couple of hours in the early afternoon, which were marked by two or three elderly white single males complaining that having to come out to vote was undemocratic, it was by far the most positive telling experience I've had (and I've done some every year this century).
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Old 24th May 2019, 17:41
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Gertrude: I believe that some EU nationals were entitled to vote and there's a on going dispute about those who though they were entitled to vote but denied at the polling station. When I voted the polling station was busy.
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Old 24th May 2019, 17:58
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Originally Posted by charliegolf View Post
PN: I've heard it reported today by Beeb that she'll stay on as a caretaker during the 'ferrets-fighting-in-a-sack' show goes on. Can't point to a reference tho'.

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Old 24th May 2019, 18:09
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Originally Posted by Gertrude the Wombat View Post
Cambridge was 48%, more than a local but less than a general.

So who were these extra people who came out to vote?

I can guess, but I'll find out for sure on Sunday afternoon.
But optimistic there GTW. Polls in the final 21 countries don't close until 10PM Sunday with results after that. It didn't say if that was BST or East European time.

Don't wait up.

Regarding the count calculations, I believe ours will have votes fed into a computer. Unlike a local elections there is not a regional counting centre but the usual local centres. We were instructed to fold the ballot (9 groups) into three and ensure they were returned the same way, some weren't. They were then rammed in the box so no idea how they will come out.
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Old 24th May 2019, 18:41
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Originally Posted by CATIII-NDB View Post
Gertrude: I believe that some EU nationals were entitled to vote and there's a on going dispute about those who though they were entitled to vote but denied at the polling station. When I voted the polling station was busy.
There are many and varied ongoing disputes. Some of the ones that I suspect might have the best chance of success in court were ones who were told, in writing, "there is nothing else you have to do" and were then denied a vote.
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Old 24th May 2019, 18:43
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
But optimistic there GTW. Polls in the final 21 countries don't close until 10PM Sunday with results after that. It didn't say if that was BST or East European time.

Don't wait up.
For the national results to be published, sure. But I'll be at our local count, and the boxes are being opened at 5pm.
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Old 24th May 2019, 18:45
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
They were then rammed in the box so no idea how they will come out.
Sadly the ones I was watching last night came out of the box properly folded, and the staff had clearly been properly trained in unfolding them and counting them entirely face down, so that we couldn't see a thing. The odd one, OK, but you can't get reliable data from that.
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Old 24th May 2019, 19:14
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Here is an ad for a caretakers job, is it the sort of thing TM will be doing until someone is found on a permanent basis:

The Governors of Haughmond Federation are seeking to appoint a committed, enthusiastic and suitably qualified caretaker to work at Harlescott Junior School.

Harlescott Junior School is situated on the northern edge of Shrewsbury in Shropshire. The school has good transport links, being situated minutes from the A5 trunk road and the Shrewsbury by –pass. The school has 349 on roll in twelve classes.

The post holder will be capable of fulfilling a wide range of general duties, including some specialist work, locking up and maintenance duties on the school site.

The normal working hours will be: 3:30pm to 6:00pm

To meet the needs of the business start and finish times these may vary therefore the successful applicant will need to have a flexible approach to their work and additional hours may be required to accommodate school events such as parent’s evenings, discos and or small projects.

Job Type: Part-time

Salary: 5,505.71 /year
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Old 24th May 2019, 19:26
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Old 24th May 2019, 19:45
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@PN. Yes same here, was just told to fold again and stuff it in.
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Old 24th May 2019, 20:01
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Originally Posted by NutLoose View Post
Please not Gove, he comes over as a slimy creepy character..

Still when TM leaves we might finally get some clarity, hopefully a genuine Brexiteer that will go back to the EU and actually negotiate a treaty and not simply roll over as TM did.

Now if only BoJo had become PM in 2016, as opposed to possibly becoming PM in 2019, Brexit would almost certainly have been done and dusted by now, and just think of what we could all have been spared. I'm not a huge fan, but one does not have to be a fan a candidate for high office, if one considers that surely what is required is to find the person most likely to achieve a given aim. Comparisons of BoJo with Churchill are stretching things a bit far, but then even the latter was not without his flaws.....

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Old 24th May 2019, 20:12
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Originally Posted by NutLoose View Post
I could not get around the fact they have a deadline to adhere to but are all orf on their holidays between now and then
It will only take whoever is PM five seconds to sign the #RevokeA50 letter that the civil servants will be keeping always within reach.
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Old 24th May 2019, 20:41
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Now if only BoJo had become PM in 2016, ... etc.
... we could have looked forward to the exceptional standard of International success exemplified by his efforts on behalf of Mrs Zhagari Ratcliffe, perhaps.
Truly a world class negotiator!
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