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Old 1st May 2019, 21:21
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Consider not as a resignation - but as an application for her job.....
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Old 1st May 2019, 22:13
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It's a scandal, I think. It's shocking, is it?

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Old 2nd May 2019, 06:21
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Originally Posted by pax britanica View Post
The official secrets act is totally out of date and merelya threat to free speech these days
Maybe you could explain what you mean when you state the OSA is out of date? An example as well which supports your view.
Do you actually understand what the OSA is and what it means?
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Old 2nd May 2019, 06:26
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A thought crossed my mind. Wouldn't it be a wizard wheeze if they faked the boy's guilt to trick Her Indoors into sacking him? That would place her in an untenable position and she would have to resign. Too Machiavellian even for Chronus?
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Old 2nd May 2019, 07:29
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Originally Posted by Effluent Man View Post
A thought crossed my mind. Wouldn't it be a wizard wheeze if they faked the boy's guilt to trick Her Indoors into sacking him? That would place her in an untenable position and she would have to resign. Too Machiavellian even for Chronus?

"Oh man, don't hit me with those conspiracy theory waves so early in the morning......." ( with apologies to Oddball... with whom I have a lot in common ) ...there again in the current climate......

Anyway, the Mail, true to the rags roots, has included a truly heart rending...this assumes Mail readers have hearts of course....minds we already know being non existent...about swearing on his children's lives in the headline....... offering to sacrifice the kids is a bit much really.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ence-secretary

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-48128748
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Old 2nd May 2019, 07:31
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Originally Posted by cavortingcheetah View Post
Still, if they name a submarine after her, she'll be HMS Mordaunt which sounds a lot more terrifying than the reality if the rest of the fleet.
To be fair, she does have some underwater experience.

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Old 2nd May 2019, 08:01
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Old 2nd May 2019, 08:30
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Are some talking load of cock?
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Old 2nd May 2019, 08:34
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How did they allow this to happen? A leak enquiry that came to a conclusion, and one which had consequences.

Sir Humphrey would have been appalled!
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Old 2nd May 2019, 09:10
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How did they allow this to happen? A leak enquiry that came to a conclusion, and one which had consequences.
'Cept he says it wasn't him.
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Old 2nd May 2019, 10:11
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Originally Posted by goofer3 View Post
Although I didn't think she was all that bright, I really didn't get the impression she was that stupid when I worked with her.

More work and more expense - I very much doubt that I'm going to get away with contributing nothing to a relatively local by-election.
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Old 3rd May 2019, 03:46
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For those with a sense of humour......

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...-and-her-chums

This , however, will probably induce a complete breakdown for those who feel our requirement to have such is mandatory and can never be challenged.......
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...errent-cartoon

Which leads to those inconveniently timed local elections.....inconvenient due to the little matter of we all know what that is.

For those unfamiliar with Trafford, let's just say it's a Tory heartland and always has been. Hence it's a surprise to see even the faithful deserting the party as the BBC shows.....however, note the lament from one Mr Brady here.....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...ester-48143816


"Sir Graham Brady, who chairs the Conservative backbench 1922 Committee, said Brexit had been a "massive frustration" for voters and affected the number of Tory supporters coming out.

He told the BBC: "
We need to be more obviously competent as a government and we need to make progress - crucially on the central issue of Brexit "


No kidding sunshine !....the word competent being a slight understatement here....and unlikely to be used in conjunction with Treeza and co now, and in the future, if indeed ever.

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Old 3rd May 2019, 06:17
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Gertrude: The "honorable" member had 2 strikes against her before the jail sentence was called for:
1. She was a politician
2. She was a solicitor
Her subsequent behaviour was therefore not unexpected!

Re Gavin Williamson: I have never liked the man, there is something of the snake oil salesman about him. However, if the man is to have fingers pointed at him and serious allegations made about his behaviour then he is surely entitled to at least see the outcome of the inquiry.
I believe the Met Police is deliberately fudging the issue with the constant repetition of the line "We can only investigate a breach of the Official Secrets Act if we are asked to by the Cabinet Office". On the radio yesterday was a discussion with a former Director of the CPS, a QC, who said if any member of the public thinks a crime has been committed, they are entitled to report it to the police and the police will be obliged to investigate at least to determine whether or not a crime may indeed have been committed and to proceed accordingly.
But then, the decisions here come from a person responsible for for the infamous "Round 'em up and send 'em home" policy, otherwise known as Windrush.
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Old 3rd May 2019, 07:27
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I believe the Met Police is deliberately fudging the issue with the constant repetition of the line "We can only investigate a breach of the Official Secrets Act if we are asked to by the Cabinet Office". On the radio yesterday was a discussion with a former Director of the CPS, a QC, who said if any member of the public thinks a crime has been committed, they are entitled to report it to the police and the police will be obliged to investigate at least to determine whether or not a crime may indeed have been committed and to proceed accordingly.
That's how it works! If anyone wants to call the police a report the incident they may be inclined to investigate, however I suspect it'll take more than an oik piling up at the local nick (supposing of course they can gain physical access to Fortress Plod) and say I heard there's been this crime - it was in the Daily Mail.
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Old 3rd May 2019, 07:38
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post
For those unfamiliar with Trafford, let's just say it's a Tory heartland and always has been. Hence it's a surprise to see even the faithful deserting the party as the BBC shows.....however, note the lament from one Mr Brady here.....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...ester-48143816
Minor point of order from a Trafford resident - South Trafford is indeed Tory heartland, but North Trafford is very much Labour, which is why the council has had periods of a Labour majority in the past. However the overall point is fair.

My ward was the most interesting of all. It had always had 3 Tory councillors, but last time out the Greens spent the couple of years leading up to it campaigning very hard on very specific local issues, and were rewarded with both of the seats up for grabs, though not with huge majorities. This time round we saw a lot of Green campaigning, but virtually nothing from Labour or the Conservatives (who held the seat up for grabs). That seemed very odd until I saw the result- the Greens won with something like 3/4s of the vote, and the Tory got even less than Labour (about 150)! Obviously the early private polling in the ward had shown the Tories in particular that campaigning was a waste of money.

Im assuming that the Greens concentrated most of their resources on our ward, as their results in the other Trafford wards were more as youd expect - largely in with the also rans.
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Old 3rd May 2019, 07:47
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CP, we had an odd situation. Straight fight labour/conservative for two seats. Only conservative did a leaflet drop. No one knew anything about labour. Not a few voters said none of the above. It really points up the problem with a two party system forcing a yes/no vote (now where did that happen recently?)
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Old 3rd May 2019, 08:11
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Old 3rd May 2019, 09:17
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
Not a few voters said none of the above.
Last night I say 0 ballots with "none of the above" written on them and 0 ballots left blank.

I did see one with "none of the below" written at the top of the ballot. That was as witty as it got - not a vintage year for spoiled ballots.

Hint: if you're going to write something "clever" on the ballot do so clearly in large capitals. People may only have a fraction of a second to read it, almost certainly upside down.
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Old 3rd May 2019, 10:20
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If it has been mentioned already then my apologies but does anyone else here think that Gavin Williamson has been asked to take one for the team?
To minimise the aftermath Theresa May had to fire someone least likely to make a big fuss and drag out an enquiry, any of the 'Not so keen on Theresa' gang would have maximised the ensuing disruption and discomfort, all of which begs the question, 'Where did the leak come from in the first place'? Surely not from TM or one of her team? Politicians, like pilots, will eat their own young and would have no compunction about sacrificing a colleague, or has Williamson simply over estimated his own importance and his value to the media and completely misread the situation?
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Old 3rd May 2019, 11:15
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Originally Posted by parabellum View Post
If it has been mentioned already then my apologies but does anyone else here think that Gavin Williamson has been asked to take one for the team?
To minimise the aftermath Theresa May had to fire someone least likely to make a big fuss and drag out an enquiry, any of the 'Not so keen on Theresa' gang would have maximised the ensuing disruption and discomfort, all of which begs the question, 'Where did the leak come from in the first place'? Surely not from TM or one of her team? Politicians, like pilots, will eat their own young and would have no compunction about sacrificing a colleague, or has Williamson simply over estimated his own importance and his value to the media and completely misread the situation?
EM hit us with a conspiracy theory wave yesterday, scroll back a bit here to understand this......and Gav said he was prepared to indulge in a spot of ritual child sacrifice according to the Mail...the Mail could actually be setting a precedent here by publishing a factual statement however.....that said, here's a less than illustrious CV which suggests he's got more potential than the other four contenders ..and this takes some doing !...to be guilty
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...or-haplessness

Of course, it does beg the question as to why Treeza feels the matter is now closed and somewhat reluctant to involve the police and a criminal investigation as to a possible breach of the OSA
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