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Old 26th Apr 2019, 21:32
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At a certain point in public office your diary is determined by precedent and protocol and not your personal programme. If you chose the reject protocol you look a proper ****.

At the Mansion House traditional white tie, Gordon Brown, true to his socialist roots decided to ignore protocol and went in a lounge suit. He shocked traditionalists.

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Old 26th Apr 2019, 22:29
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I have nightmares about the current collection in "Charge" Echo Romeo. - "We're all doomed !"

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Old 26th Apr 2019, 22:46
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 00:47
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Odd that he’s happy to sit down, drink tea and lay wreathes with Hezbollah and even the IRA at the height of its murder campaign. But can’t be in the same room as the leader of our closest ally.
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 00:50
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Cat3 : Every country in the world is governed by an elite as you describe. If anybody is surprised by this they should get in the Tardis and go back to when they were 16 (my era) or 32 (current era).

Shot1: forget closest ally, try democratically elected leader of his country. He's not my choice but he's his country's choice. Live with it people.
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 01:14
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Which prominent figure has issued an absolute condemnation of the Huawei leaks but not an absolute denial?
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 06:07
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
At a certain point in public office your diary is determined by precedent and protocol and not your personal programme. If you chose the reject protocol you look a proper ****.

At the Mansion House traditional white tie, Gordon Brown, true to his socialist roots decided to ignore protocol and went in a lounge suit. He shocked traditionalists.

**** Rearrange ATTW as PPRuNe wouldn't allow a word beginning and ending in T
But not as bigger ( former American airline with a T added ) as dressing up like a V & A mannequin to have a meal. Then there's tradition and tradionalists ..invariably a barrier to progress in any context with the quaint and fixated minds firmly entrenched in the past ( see a certain extended negotiation process for classic examples of the species ).....and also not allowing women to play at certain golf clubs......which is an aside and sod all to do with politics but worth a mention in the context of "tradition" . .

However, elsewhere and slightly more relevant than ensuring the knives, forks and spoons are laid out correctly and to the nearest micron, there's a little matter of a not very astute leak developing.

Here's a list of suspects.........no bookie would offer you odds as to which one dun it as they are all equally capable and motivated....

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...i-leak-mystery

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Old 27th Apr 2019, 07:30
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From what I heard in the news yesterday, Corbyn is refusing to attend only the State dinner but will be taking part in other meetings, discussions etc.
As someone who has never liked the idea of Corbyn as leader of the Labour Party, I find it a bit irksome having to defend him but in the interests of fairness...
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 07:32
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Mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the Chinese sun?
The Huawei Affair, you couldn't extract it from a Graham Greene vacuum cleaner. What you could say perhaps though is that if Donald Trump were to insist on giving a Chinese company the keys to US communications, one that had been started by an ex army officer, had quadrupled its output in nine years, was rumoured to have strong ties with the Chinese military and had a compulsory compliance requirement to divulge information to the Chinese State, the US would impeach him. In Britain Theresa May can do just that with absolute impunity other than a press squeak or two and then everyone gets very miffy because the other five eyes get a little twitchy at this further example of her megalomaniac mentality.
You'd be better off with Corbyn. At least with him there'd be no middle man to pay. Mind you though, he's a trifle delusional himself. He seems to think he can ignore the existence of Donald Trump as POTUS and yet sit down with POTUS after the dinner party and tell POTUS that he's going to pull the fabulous UK's fire power capability out of NATO, hand its operation to the Russians and all this while telling POTUS what an utterly reprehensible fellow he, poxy POTUS is. That's going to work a treat when you want a trade deal or even a non immigrant visa.
Yesterday, at the country mansion in England where I am visiting for the weekend, a Labour man wondered up the driveway with a load of red leaflets. I told him that, brought up as I had been, in the land of the free, Dead was better then Red and that I would never vote for a Marxist party. He assured me that local Labour wasn't Marxist at all, that it was a separate autonomous party disassociated from mainstream Labour. My goodness, there are people in this country that would believe such arrant claptrap? So I set the Mongooses on him and chased the nest of vipers down the drive.

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Old 27th Apr 2019, 08:47
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It seems that nice Mr Corbyn has tax plans that depend on the UK leaving the EU because they would be illegal if remaining.........VAT on private education, anyone?
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 10:46
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I am not sure that VAT on private education or the destruction of the charitable status of private schools would have that much effect on the fabulously wealthy. It would though hit hard at middle class families who's strive to send their kids through the best education pathway available. The inevitable result would be private schools chock full of super wealthy parented kids, many from overseas and a requirement for yet more places in the state run system to cater for those who had had to drop out of the private sector.
This is the usual green eyed politics with unthought through consequences and you'd probably end up with a parliament in a few years time that reflected more state school education than private.
Given the mess that the present state school leavers are making of the governance of Britain, on all sides of the house, do you really want more of the little castaways in power?
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 12:40
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The imposition of VAT might not make that much difference to the actual cost of sending little Johnny/Jemima to private school because the schools would then be able to reclaim the VAT spent on goods and services; lowering the total cost. But the fact remains that this is illegal by EU rules and not much of a stretch to add VAT to further education as well........
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 12:42
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“..effect on the fabulously wealthy”. Labour’s class-war policies mostly won’t hurt them -other than to make them take their fabulous wealth elsewhere. But it will blight and limit the aspirations of millions of ordinary taxpayers and remove any incentive for them to work hard. And decimate tax receipts into the bargain.
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 13:24
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The imposition of VAT might not make that much difference to the actual cost of sending little Johnny/Jemima to private school because ........
... the parents would find some way to run the bills through one of their VAT-registered companies anyway - an offshore one if necessary - and just reclaim it.
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 13:39
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I think the super -wealthy are fewer than you think. Several private schools have been closed as falling rolls and rising costs have taken their toll. A small school that my grand daughter attended closed with no notice the week before half term. They had previously closed the Government aided pre-school section and not attracted sufficient funding to continue.
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 20:02
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Tick Tock....
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 23:12
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Lady Macbeth had it in one.
Out, damned spot!
The English should have a vote on the Scots.
You deserve it.
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Old 28th Apr 2019, 07:23
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Originally Posted by flyingfemme View Post
It seems that nice Mr Corbyn has tax plans that depend on the UK leaving the EU because they would be illegal if remaining.........VAT on private education, anyone?
I they ring fenced the income from such a tax to go into state education, that could be a good thing.
Too many bright young things are being sidelined by feckless offspring of the wealthy it shows in the quality of leaders that our current system produces


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Old 28th Apr 2019, 09:32
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Tick Tock....

It is understandable, and entirely reasonable, that the population of Scotland would want to be governed by their own parliament rather than by the disgraceful bunch of self-serving incompetents in London.

If they did choose to leave they would of course find that independence wasn't as wonderful as they had imagined.

Just like Brexit.
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Old 28th Apr 2019, 09:41
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Sallyann1234 It is understandable, and entirely reasonable, that the population of Scotland would want to be governed by their own self-serving incompetents rather than by the disgraceful bunch of self-serving incompetents in London.

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