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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 14:11
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Originally Posted by tescoapp View Post
They will push to re-join what ever happens mainly due to missed place pride of not getting there way currently.
At least the re-join campaign will be able to write English.
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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 14:26
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For all the good it will do them that might be true. Not that most of the population will actually read any of it.

But if it makes them happy that everything is well written and correct but fails to achieve the result that they want that's just tough.

My personal experience is that you can hire an English Grad to rewrite stuff for min wage. Try get someone to weld 304 stainless or do copper plumbing and your basically stuffed and if you can get one you will be paying vastly more than min wage. Just as well I can do both things personally thus saving a fortune.

The sum total of what I have written at work today in 8 hours is:

Delay: -FZRN Deice IV/100 20min

And my signature 24 times.

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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 14:35
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Originally Posted by tescoapp View Post
there is the colossal majority in the middle that are fed up with the whole thing.
Instead of a simple in/out vote, how would a matrix yes/no vote have faired?

FOM
CU
FTA
ECJ
Schengen
Coloured Passport
Euro

And then based on total yes/no
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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 14:40
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It would be unworkable....

But I suspect if any of the options had been loose the pound it would have been a lot more than 52% to leave. Even now I think it would produce a substantially heavier leave vote than before if it was a condition of staying in.

The matrix would just produce a completely impossible want plan which most aspects would be completely unacceptable to the EU without the heavily unwanted conditions being implemented.
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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 15:09
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Originally Posted by Gertrude the Wombat View Post
At least the re-join campaign will be able to write English.
Oh, the typo and grammar police are out today
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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 15:14
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I think you missed the point.
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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 17:02
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Originally Posted by tescoapp View Post
It would be unworkable....

The matrix would just produce a completely impossible want plan which most aspects would be completely unacceptable to the EU without the heavily unwanted conditions being implemented.
I was thinking more that the final result would be the leading sum of the parts. You're probably right, Euro would swing it.
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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 17:30
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UK Foreign Secretary. Job Spec.

Essential :
A capability to ensure you demonstrate to other nations your finely honed communication skills.
A capability to be equally incompetent regarding domestic and personal issues.
A track record of non achievement at the highest political level.

Desirable : Intentionally blank.

Subsequent to the resignation of Mr Johnson B. from this post, the UK Government is please to announce a worthy and capable successor.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...fe-in-slovenia
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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 17:38
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BTW Scottish referendum is unlikely to happen in the short to medium term again. Especially now the main reason for the first one is going through legal process. They will have to wait until another charismatic leader comes along and a suitable set of circumstances arises.

The reunification of Ireland will have nothing to do with bombs or bullets or politics its just a matter of time until it occurs. The timing of it will be left until it will pretty much be a certainty and there won't be a result like this and loads nonsense about it.
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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 17:49
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https://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/...medium=twitter
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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 18:33
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post
UK Foreign Secretary. Job Spec.

Essential :
A capability to ensure you demonstrate to other nations your finely honed communication skills.
A capability to be equally incompetent regarding domestic and personal issues.
A track record of non achievement at the highest political level.

Desirable : Intentionally blank.

Subsequent to the resignation of Mr Johnson B. from this post, the UK Government is please to announce a worthy and capable successor.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...fe-in-slovenia
It is "pleased to announce" Too much Grauniad, K&C.
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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 19:18
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It is "pleased to announce" Too much Grauniad, K&C.
See post #5245 above!
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Old 24th Feb 2019, 01:29
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It was 5244 that caught my attention. The post you highlight merely had a letter missing off the end of one word, probably a typo. The one I refer to is totally infathomable. If you intend to indulge in any kind of written debate it is pretty essential that you have a reasonable level of English at your command.

It is particularly ironic that the supporters of Leave who are so stoical in their defence of all things British often show an inability to use the language to adequately convey their arguments.
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Old 24th Feb 2019, 03:01
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Oh, the irony!
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Old 24th Feb 2019, 05:34
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First, thanks for drawing my attenshun to mizzing a lettur of the end of a wurd............( more than 3 apostles here ) and I personally blame our dog as madam decided she wanted to play when I was typing and madam is not the sort of dog to take being ignored lightly......mind you, also noteworthy was the lack of commentary about one Mr J.Hunt .....so it's nice to see where priorities lie.

Moving on.........( more apostles ) and some very useful advice for Corbyn.....printed in the Guardian please note.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...michael-savage
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Old 24th Feb 2019, 06:16
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It is particularly ironic that the supporters of Leave who are so stoical in their defence of all things British often show an inability to use the language to adequately convey their arguments.
Well I am certainly not stoical in supporting all things British. In fact there is much wrong with the UK. Staying in the Eu isn't going to fix it either just going to make it worse.

And it really doesn't matter what technical standard of English people use, remains will find something to criticise about what you have said. And from the very start we have seen that there is two broad groups of the arguments with remains being on the social interaction language services side of things and the leaves being on the physical making things side of things. In some way's being a member of the Eu has promoted the services and interaction side of the population to the detriment of the physical making things side of the population. The physical building type people really don't care about technical standard of language use. They can see and understand the numbers. The mincing of language and being put down due to there functional use of it just hardens there views that these luvvies are pretty clueless.

Given the advantages I get in the real world with a good grasp of the way it works physically and having good engineering grasp of fixing things and making things, both life quality and financially. I certainly wouldn't want to swap those skills for language skills.
Nothing I have written so far in my life will ever last more than a day or two. The stuff I designed and built, from my teens even, is still going strong. Hopefully my current plumbing project will be going strong way beyond my death. And I wouldn't be surprised if the stuff from my teens is still going strong as well, not that I expect anybody using it or buying it to know it was me that was involved designing it.


Anyway next project is designing a new roof for an out house, haven't done snow loading for years. Want it to be raised by a meter. Cost to get an architect to plug in the numbers invent a frame design 1k. For myself a day revising snow loading and making up some drawings, cnc cutting and hydraulically pressing fixtures, production of frames and delivery 2k, 1 day stripping off the old roof and burning it, 1 day preparing the mount surface, 1 day installing frames, boarding and batons another 2 days and a 1k's worth of materials. Metal plates and fittings another 3k and 2-3 days to install. And that's using top range materials and fittings and Ruukki Classic 0.6mm 50 plus roofing sheets. And that's a new roof that will last 50 years.

So 6 k and 9 days work. How much would a new roof on a 16 meter by 5 meter out house with 200m2 area cost if you didn't have a clue? 10k at least I suspect more likely 12k.

Swap that for not getting abuse from remainers about crap English... no thanks.

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Old 24th Feb 2019, 07:18
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Well that screws Ireland.....

https://www.politico.eu/article/berl...r-olaf-scholz/

Berlin open to majority voting on EU taxes, report
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Old 24th Feb 2019, 07:18
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Originally Posted by Effluent Man View Post
It was 5244 that caught my attention. The post you highlight merely had a letter missing off the end of one word, probably a typo. The one I refer to is totally infathomable. If you intend to indulge in any kind of written debate it is pretty essential that you have a reasonable level of English at your command.

It is particularly ironic that the supporters of Leave who are so stoical in their defence of all things British often show an inability to use the language to adequately convey their arguments.
EF, in general I agree with the tenor of your comment. The post however wblas in response to my What If.

Punning aside, I think the leavers want to loose (sic) or cut the ties and to lose the pound would be a deep redline.

Openning the question, how would our remainers view joining the Euro?
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Old 24th Feb 2019, 07:26
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Outside of dyslexia, a command of the basics of the language, loose/lose, quiet/quite etc. especially for natives implies a given level of education. A level of education implies in turn,one has learnt to use critical thinking. The worst offenders in that respect around here are also the most illiterate. Given the consistency, I don't think the two are unrelated. They would disagree, unsurprisingly.

Typos are a different mutter, obvs.
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Old 24th Feb 2019, 07:27
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Originally Posted by tescoapp View Post
from the very start we have seen that there is two broad groups of the arguments with remains being on the social interaction language services side of things and the remains being on the physical making things side of things.
Load of cobblers.
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