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Old 17th Feb 2019, 21:55
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Probably none of today's Porsche drivers will be unable to afford their willy extension, they will simply fork out more money for them. Prices for that kind of car are arbitrary anyway.
Dunno about that. Mine was very second hand, has cost me a fortune to keep going & was always about the aesthetic & heritage for me. I accept they're trinkets for many but it was always about the experience for me. Willy extension strikes me as a cheap point whilst I equally acknowledge I'm coming across as a bit defensive even posting this.
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 22:05
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Originally Posted by Parapunter View Post
Dunno about that. Mine was very second hand, has cost me a fortune to keep going & was always about the aesthetic & heritage for me. I accept they're trinkets for many but it was always about the experience for me. Willy extension strikes me as a cheap point whilst I equally acknowledge I'm coming across as a bit defensive even posting this.
OK OK, someone who keeps an ancient falling-apart one running is a "classic car enthusiast" (which is not my thing, but hey, wouldn't it be boring if we were all the same), and does not qualify as a "willy extension" merchant - that fair?

I knew someone who ran an ancient Jag ... but not for very long, and not for very many miles, given that it cost many times more per mile to run than just taking a taxi. His main problem was apparently that if he got the brakes working to the absolute peak of perfection, rather better than they would have done when the car was new, it would just scrape through the (then) modern MOT ... and then the brakes would need adjusting again ten miles down the road.
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 22:15
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Entirely fair. Mine is ten years old. Today the oil/air separator went balls up which causes a pea souper when you start up. That looks like a £10k new engine but is actually a fifty quid repair.

Porsche, the sword of Damocles of motoring. If you want one, eitherr be wealthy or handy on the spanners.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 04:51
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The death of Paul Flynn the left winger who has represented Newport West since 1987 will bring an interesting by election. From a majority of 15000 in 1997 this has been gradually whittled down to 5000 and Flynn called for a second referendum in a constituency that voted Leave by about 58/42, although this is probably now 50/50 ish. I would imagine Corbyn will be in no great hurry.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 06:57
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Treeza saved ! !

As we know, there's nothing quite like a convenient war to bolster failing politicians reputations.....see 1982 for those on here suffering from memory lapses..... and we know how matters can escalate very quickly once politicians sense an opportunity.

Even better, with Private Pike at the helm, no chance of any reservations from the M.o.D being encountered. We've had a go at Spain before, not for a while I know, but, the precedents have been set and, as featured exclusively here on JB, the most surreal explanation for the UK's rise from the ashes of Brexit....we have nukes !....so if things so get really troublesome with Spain, we just lob a couple on to Madrid and Barcelona and that's them sorted. This may not help the tourist economy however, but, according to our travel and economics correspondent, that's going to collapse anyway......

Coming soon in the headlines of certain rags.....

"UK to mobilise ! Cobra to meet on a war footing ! "......"conscription imminent ! "....."conscientious objectors to be named and shamed in exclusive Mail and Express supplements ! ". The Sun says " Our lads go in !...years of top secret training as holiday makers revealed ! "

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...british-waters
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 07:15
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And now a Labour split. Expect it to be Chris Leslie, Chuka Umuna and few others. Dominic Grieve, Anna Soubry and Sarah Wollaston may not be far behind. Interesting times.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 07:55
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For once in agreement with KnC. Nukes? Who brought them up..can anyone explain? On second thoughts please don’t!

Well done Chuka etc if that rumour is true. Hope you’re ready for deselection demand and momentum goon squad who’ll be at all your meetings from now
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 08:24
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That's already done. The Corbynites have gone for "capture" and now have control of all the party levers of power. Deselection will be being organised centrally despite their protests to the contrary.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 09:08
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Nuclear weapons are not for use but they guarantee a seat at the top table when it comes to international negotiations and treaties.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 09:09
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post
...so if things so get really troublesome with Spain, ...
I think that this has a lot more to do with the forthcoming general election in Spain rather than anything to do with UK politics.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 09:26
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They’ve gone: seven Labour MP’s inc Chuka. Well done for finding some backbone.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 09:29
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Watching this live. While it's getting a bit windy, I'm seeing the truth being told for the first time in quite a while from front line politicians. The question is whether it's two years too late or two months too early.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 09:36
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Slightly off beat perhaps but still well entwined in the mire of hypocrisy, hyperbole and hideous hernias, I am chuffed indeed to see that the final report of the Digital, Cultural and Sport Media select committee has found British electoral law to be unfit for purpose. It has also denounced Facebook and its executives as digital gangsters. How about that now, Nick Clegg and your spousal seat on the board of one of Spain’s largest pollutant plants, responsible, thanks in part to prevailing winds, for much of the pollution that wipes out the geriatrics on the sea front at Torquay.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 10:18
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Originally Posted by G0ULI View Post
Nuclear weapons are not for use but they guarantee a seat at the top table when it comes to international negotiations and treaties.
That's reassuring to know, that we aren't going to nuke anybody just because we have them.

However, quite how our possession of them ensures us a seat at the "top table ".....erm, this is also confusing as an analogy because we aren't planning on having a dining in night, remains a mystery only you seem to have the answer to. If they were such a potent bargaining option, even Liam. Boris and David would have the acumen to have used them....now wouldn't they ?

" think that this has a lot more to do with the forthcoming general election in Spain rather than anything to do with UK politics "

Really ? I would never have guessed so thanks for the explanation. Understanding satire possibly isn't your forte however.....

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Old 18th Feb 2019, 10:18
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Originally Posted by cavortingcheetah View Post
Slightly off beat perhaps but still well entwined in the mire of hypocrisy, hyperbole and hideous hernias, I am chuffed indeed to see that the final report of the Digital, Cultural and Sport Media select committee has found British electoral law to be unfit for purpose.
Really? Were I as extreme a leaver as you, I'd be keeping my trap shut on big tech platforms facilitating abuse of the democratic process. It's almost as if you've not quite got a handle on what the DCMS saying or what brought about the inquiry in the first place.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 10:25
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Originally Posted by G0ULI View Post
Nuclear weapons are not for use but they guarantee a seat at the top table when it comes to international negotiations and treaties.
Well if Corbyn gets into power, with his seven soft MPs replaced by hard lefties, his first action will be to scrap our nuclear deterrent. No more top table for us.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 11:10
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Well if Corbyn gets into power, with his seven soft MPs replaced by hard lefties, his first action will be to scrap our nuclear deterrent. No more top table for us.
Money to spend on the NHS?
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 11:14
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I've just listened to Chuka Umunna's speech. Can't disagree with a single word he said.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 11:38
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And most of it applies to both parties.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 11:41
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Chuka is a career politician who always saw himself as the next Blair, he never got over his failure to carry through with that plan last time around and now that he can see he won't be PM anytime soon in the labour party he is doing what all rats do best.
This was planned some time ago, even before the forming of the centrist think tank he chairs (@ 400 odd quid an hour I gather)
Chuka never belonged in the Labour party in the first place.
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