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Old 18th Feb 2019, 09:09
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post
...so if things so get really troublesome with Spain, ...
I think that this has a lot more to do with the forthcoming general election in Spain rather than anything to do with UK politics.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 09:26
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They’ve gone: seven Labour MP’s inc Chuka. Well done for finding some backbone.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 09:29
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Watching this live. While it's getting a bit windy, I'm seeing the truth being told for the first time in quite a while from front line politicians. The question is whether it's two years too late or two months too early.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 09:36
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Slightly off beat perhaps but still well entwined in the mire of hypocrisy, hyperbole and hideous hernias, I am chuffed indeed to see that the final report of the Digital, Cultural and Sport Media select committee has found British electoral law to be unfit for purpose. It has also denounced Facebook and its executives as digital gangsters. How about that now, Nick Clegg and your spousal seat on the board of one of Spain’s largest pollutant plants, responsible, thanks in part to prevailing winds, for much of the pollution that wipes out the geriatrics on the sea front at Torquay.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 10:18
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Originally Posted by G0ULI View Post
Nuclear weapons are not for use but they guarantee a seat at the top table when it comes to international negotiations and treaties.
That's reassuring to know, that we aren't going to nuke anybody just because we have them.

However, quite how our possession of them ensures us a seat at the "top table ".....erm, this is also confusing as an analogy because we aren't planning on having a dining in night, remains a mystery only you seem to have the answer to. If they were such a potent bargaining option, even Liam. Boris and David would have the acumen to have used them....now wouldn't they ?

" think that this has a lot more to do with the forthcoming general election in Spain rather than anything to do with UK politics "

Really ? I would never have guessed so thanks for the explanation. Understanding satire possibly isn't your forte however.....

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Old 18th Feb 2019, 10:18
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Originally Posted by cavortingcheetah View Post
Slightly off beat perhaps but still well entwined in the mire of hypocrisy, hyperbole and hideous hernias, I am chuffed indeed to see that the final report of the Digital, Cultural and Sport Media select committee has found British electoral law to be unfit for purpose.
Really? Were I as extreme a leaver as you, I'd be keeping my trap shut on big tech platforms facilitating abuse of the democratic process. It's almost as if you've not quite got a handle on what the DCMS saying or what brought about the inquiry in the first place.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 10:25
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Originally Posted by G0ULI View Post
Nuclear weapons are not for use but they guarantee a seat at the top table when it comes to international negotiations and treaties.
Well if Corbyn gets into power, with his seven soft MPs replaced by hard lefties, his first action will be to scrap our nuclear deterrent. No more top table for us.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 11:10
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Well if Corbyn gets into power, with his seven soft MPs replaced by hard lefties, his first action will be to scrap our nuclear deterrent. No more top table for us.
Money to spend on the NHS?
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 11:14
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I've just listened to Chuka Umunna's speech. Can't disagree with a single word he said.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 11:38
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And most of it applies to both parties.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 11:41
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Chuka is a career politician who always saw himself as the next Blair, he never got over his failure to carry through with that plan last time around and now that he can see he won't be PM anytime soon in the labour party he is doing what all rats do best.
This was planned some time ago, even before the forming of the centrist think tank he chairs (@ 400 odd quid an hour I gather)
Chuka never belonged in the Labour party in the first place.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 12:02
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Someone on Radio 5 has just made the following point; those that voted remain say we should stay in the EU to change it from within.
Yet these 7 remainers are leaving because they say they can't change the Labour Party from within.
Sounds familiar.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 12:05
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They’ve gone: seven Labour MP’s inc Chuka. Well done for finding some backbone.
If they've really got backbone, they'll resign their seats and stand for re-election.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 12:10
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Parapunter.
i think most of that post of yours was a non sequitur. Anyway, be that as it my, it amused me mightily to hear Nick Clegg classed, as I have long thought him to be, as a gangster. The fact that his wife accepted a directorship of Spanish multi national Acciona, offered a few days after Clegg signed up with Cameron, just further inscribed the glittering gangsterdom of Britain’s then most hypocritical political family.
The whys and wherefore are unimportant. Clegg is a gangster. Will El Trumpo throw him out? Perhaps he’d try to skulk back into British political life as the leader of the Independent Group? You read it here first.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 12:13
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Originally Posted by Andy_S View Post
If they've really got backbone, they'll resign their seats and stand for re-election.
Forgive my laziness - to save me trawling the archives could you give me a link to your statement on this each time a sitting MP defected to UKIP?
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 12:28
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Originally Posted by cavortingcheetah View Post
Parapunter.
i think most of that post of yours was a non sequitur.
That's only so if you haven't understood what was said. Irrational hatred for Clegg is a matter for you & I care not a jot, nevertheless, you are, as a leaver, a direct beneficiary of various nefarious goings on the DCMS is reporting on today with a view to legislating against. Seems to me, that key part of this has passed you by. Hence cheering on a report that were it legislation three years ago would have made a significant difference to the way the referendum was conducted. Ignorance, I'm told is bliss but I have no desire to find out for myself.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 12:52
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Originally Posted by The Nip View Post
Someone on Radio 5 has just made the following point; those that voted remain say we should stay in the EU to change it from within.
Yet these 7 remainers are leaving because they say they can't change the Labour Party from within.
Sounds familiar.
The difference is these seven are leaving to form a new alternative leftish party.
In spite of the fervent desires of some here, I don't see any other EU countries leaving to join the UK in an alternative Union.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 12:55
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Originally Posted by Curious Pax View Post


Forgive my laziness - to save me trawling the archives could you give me a link to your statement on this each time a sitting MP defected to UKIP?
I'm not sure what your point is.

I don't, and never have, supported UKIP.

I do, as a matter of general principle, believe that any sitting MP who changes their party allegiance should resign and stand for re-election. That holds true whatever the colour of their rosette.

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Old 18th Feb 2019, 13:02
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Drat ! it's those dashed trade deals again....and the unabashed arrogance of those involved in the negotiations ..fancy not just letting the UK get what we demand there and then !

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ox-jeremy-hunt
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 13:11
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Originally Posted by Andy_S View Post
If they've really got backbone, they'll resign their seats and stand for re-election.
​​​​​​ Corbyn would love that. The hardliners would turn the by elections into a circus. Replace them with Corbynistas and the Communist sorry Labour party would be one step closer to taking over.

Wouldn't it be deeply ironic? A no deal Brexit causing the downfall of the Tories only to be replaced a hard left regime intent on aligning with all the other rogue states. With all the right wingers fleeing Britain to... well not Europe.
Be careful what you vote for Brexiteers.!!!!!
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